Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Psylocke said: Me? I didn't reference Palestine or Israel at all. The "handsome pirate" gays made go viral is from Yemen (and Huthis) isn't he? Merely pointing out the stupidity of Twitter gays who give such a terrible regime positive headlines while human rights violations like... killing 13 people for being gay gets lost in the noise with no second thought. the “handsome pirate” is not a Houthi. First of all. He’s just a pro-Palestine normal Yemeni teen civilian. Second of all, people on Twitter weren’t praising the Houthis for being hot and anti-gay, they praised them for one sole extremely ultra specific reason and that is imposing economic sanctions on Israel in times of genocide when no one else was doing anything about it. Now keep pretending over and over again like you can’t read that part. 9 1 1
Psylocke Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Sheep said: The mental gymnastics in this thread trying to justify murdering of our people makes me so sad. Not everything needs to be about taking a stance on a larger(usually unrelated) issue. How could you downplay your own people being killed because some other people are being slaughtered in mass numbers? MAGA logic. Two things can be bad and also be causing different degrees of harm in the world. Thanks! I'm not even pro Israel and people are already pointing fingers at me for merely posting the article 1
Zenyte Posted February 7 Posted February 7 17 minutes ago, Jjang said: literally the first comment from the OP referenced Palestine supporters You clearly can’t read then because nothing in their post references Palestine. Quit being a pick-me 1 9
Psylocke Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jjang said: the “handsome pirate” is not a Houthi. First of all. He’s just a pro-Palestine normal Yemeni teen civilian. Second of all, people on Twitter weren’t praising the Houthis for being hot and anti-gay, they praised them for one sole extremely ultra specific reason and that is imposing economic sanctions on Israel in times of genocide when no one else was doing anything about it. Now keep pretending over and over again like you can’t read that part. I'm sure the Yemen government loved all the Buzzfeed articles for mr. pirate regardless but okay! Edited February 7 by Psylocke 4
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sheep said: The mental gymnastics in this thread trying to justify murdering of our people makes me so sad. Not everything needs to be about taking a stance on a larger(usually unrelated) issue. How could you downplay your own people being killed because some other people are being slaughtered in mass numbers? MAGA logic. Two things can be bad and also be causing different degrees of harm in the world. except no one’s justifying this (find me one comment here that directly justified this action) unlike the multiple members here who wholeheartedly and publicly support an ongoing genocide that has displaced and starved 100% of all the gays in Gaza. See the difference? Edited February 7 by Jjang 8 1 2
Psylocke Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, Jjang said: except no one’s justifying this (find me one comment here that directly justified this action) Find me my comment here that directly "references Palestine supporters" while you're at it.
ForgottenSoul Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Jjang said: Israel would have had this entire forum wiped out of the civil registry in 3 months had they all lived in Gaza Yet Gaza population has grown massively and Gaza population is not being wiped out? Let me guess you're one of the people who think genocide is taking place even though its clearly not. Edited February 7 by ForgottenSoul 1 7
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Just now, ForgottenSoul said: Yet Gaza population has grown massively and Gaza population is not being wiped out? And there you go folks: a textbook genocide denier trying to pretend like they're morally superior to us. How easy does the mask fall. 6 1
Sheep Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jjang said: except no one’s justifying this (find me one comment here that directly justified this action) unlike the multiple members here who wholeheartedly and publicly support an ongoing genocide that has displaced and starved 100% of all the gays in Gaza. See the difference? Justifying might not have been the perfect word, but vilifying people for raising a serious issue is not the serve you think it is. There can be multiple atrocities at the same time and those atrocities can be at different scales but they can still both be atrocious. I just wish we could stop playing the 2016'd culture war game because that is what this behavior is giving. I can't speak to OP's intentions or separate leanings on the biggest issue in the world right now because I avoid threads related to that conflict because of the severe brain rot going around on this forum. All I can speak to is the several users jumping OP for a thread about 13 of my gay brothers and sisters being sentenced to death. Pretending this is something we shouldn't speak on does not serve any cause I would ever get behind and it reflects poorly on any person who would. and in case anybody who DOES support the IDF mistakes this as some sort of coded support to them, please get off this website you aren't welcome here. Edited February 7 by Sheep 2 2
Riot Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, ForgottenSoul said: Israel is the only country in that region that wouldn't kill most people that use this forum.. Unless they're Palestinian 9
State of Grace. Posted February 7 Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Sheep said: vilifying people for raising a serious issue is not the serve you think it is Except no one here did this? We are simply calling out the people using this serious issue and queer people in the Middle East in general to push their pro-Israel agenda. A user above you is literally full on denying the ongoing genocide. The reality is we CAN actually condemn this crime AND still think that the economic sanctions on Israel by the Houthis are a good thing. It is not hard. 5 1
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Sheep said: Justifying might not have been the perfect word, but vilifying people for raising a serious issue is not the serve you think it is. There can be multiple atrocities at the same time and those atrocities can be at different scales but they can still both be atrocious. I just wish we could stop playing the 2016'd culture war game because that is what this behavior is giving. I can't speak to OP's intentions or separate leanings on the biggest issue in the world right now because I avoid threads related to that conflict because of the severe brain rot going around on this forum. All I can speak to is the several users jumping OP for a thread about 13 of my gay brothers and sisters being sentenced to death. Pretending this is something we shouldn't speak on does not serve any cause I would ever get behind and it reflects poorly on any person who would. Except we are the ones being nuanced and seperating issues and it's you who insist on viewing everything in black and white the people you're endorsing's argument: supporting the Houthis decision to sanction Israel in the face of genocide is horrible because the Houthis are homophobic. The end. meanwhile, our argument: we support the Houthis' action in imposing economic sanctions on Israel in the face of genocide, but we strictly and urgently condemn their policies towards the gay communities in Yemen. I sincerely don't know how to make this any less nuanced and more simple for you. Maybe try reading the comments again to see who's acting in bad faith and who's being genuine. 5
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Except no one here did this? We are simply calling out the people using this serious issue and queer people in the Middle East in general to push their pro-Israel agenda. A user above you is literally full on denying the ongoing genocide. The reality is we CAN actually condemn this crime AND still think that the economic sanctions on Israel by the Houthis are a good thing. It is not hard. "I dare these gays to go live one day in the Middle East" as if both of us aren't from the Middle East 1
playboi Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Islam ALWAYS at the scene of the crime I don't know a worse religion 1
Sheep Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 8 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Except no one here did this? We are simply calling out the people using this serious issue and queer people in the Middle East in general to push their pro-Israel agenda. A user above you is literally full on denying the ongoing genocide. The reality is we CAN actually condemn this crime AND still think that the economic sanctions on Israel by the Houthis are a good thing. It is not hard. Did I lift a finger to defend that user? Absolutely not, I don't agree with what they said. Did I say that the sanctions on Israel by the Houthis are a bad thing? no. Did I see the op say that? no. Do I believe that? no. Do I have any reason to believe op believes that? no. Can terrible people enact policies that are beneficial to causes I support? yes. 8 minutes ago, Jjang said: the people you're endorsing's argument: supporting the Houthis decision to sanction Israel in the face of genocide is horrible because the Houthis are homophobic. The end. Either I missed the post where this was said completely and am being a fool right now or this just actually wasn't said by the person I commented to defend. Again this is MAGA'd culture war behavior, you're accusing me of supporting people that I would never support and also being extremely condescending in your approach. If you're going to align me with causes that I've explicitly said I do not support then I'm going to assume you're the one acting in bad faith here even if we have the same views on the unrelated topic that you're trying to force this one to be about. You can't be the ones separating issues when you're the ones forcing this thread to be about separate issues. Edited February 7 by Sheep
State of Grace. Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Just now, Jjang said: "I dare these gays to go live one day in the Middle East" as if both of us aren't from the Middle East Like....I'm really supposed to believe these users geniunely feel for us **** from the MENA region when they're defending/advocating for the killing of our sisters in Palestine gtfo 3
ForgottenSoul Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jjang said: And there you go folks: a textbook genocide denier trying to pretend like they're morally superior to us. How easy does the mask fall. I'm not saying anyone is superior to anyone but the idea that Israel is trying to genocide is just BS. No mask needs to slip? I don't think Israel is trying to commit genocide, you can continue to misuse the word of Twitter and TikTok won't change the fact that's not their goal. Using the word genocide to describe a war downplays the real genocides in the world taking place and being ignored. It is interesting that no-one really cares about arab vs arab violence.. SA/Yemen barely got any of the reaction Gaza is getting. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that those countries around Israel actually want to genocide Israel.. 23 minutes ago, Riot said: Unless they're Palestinian Dont get what point you're trying to make. Israel is at war with "Palestine"? I guess its fine for Gaza to fire 10s of thousands of rockets.. I guess those are peace-loving rockets. Edited February 7 by ForgottenSoul 5
Sheep Posted February 7 Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: I'm not saying anyone is superior to anyone but the idea that Israel is trying to genocide is just BS. No mask needs to slip? I don't think Israel is trying to commit genocide, you can continue to misuse the word of Twitter and TikTok won't change the fact that's not their goal. Dont get what point you're trying to make? Israel is at war with "Palestine"? See this is the brain rot I told you guys I'm avoiding
ForgottenSoul Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sheep said: See this is the brain rot I told you guys I'm avoiding Brain rot? If genocide was taking place in an area as condensed as Gaza the death toll would be much higher considering the amount of rockets Israel fires. The brain rot is people like you who love to use words like they mean nothing. Israel is not aiming to wipe out all people in Gaza if you really believe that then yikes. Go ahead and avoid it, go back to your safe place where everyone thinks and says the same deluded ****. Edited February 7 by ForgottenSoul 4
Mean Trees Posted February 7 Posted February 7 What the hell is Zawya anyway?? I have never heard of it. 1
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sheep said: Did I lift a finger to defend that user? Absolutely not, I don't agree with what they said. Did I say that the sanctions on Israel by the Houthis are a bad thing? no. Did I see the op say that? no. Do I believe that? no. Do I have any reason to believe op believes that? no. Can terrible people enact policies that are beneficial to causes I support? yes. Either I missed the post where this was said completely and am being a fool right now or this just actually wasn't said by the person I commented to defend. Again this is MAGA'd culture war behavior, you're accusing me of supporting people that I would never support and also being extremely condescending in your approach. If you're going to align me with causes that I've explicitly said I do not support then I'm going to assume you're the one acting in bad faith here even if we have the same views on the unrelated topic that you're trying to force this one to be about. ok sorry then you're right the Houthis made global news because people were just very keen on cheering homophobic pirates, it had absolutely nothing to do with Palestine and Palestine was absolutely not the center of those news. I guess someone needs to send us a list of homophobic organizations to support since Palestine is an irrelevant non-crucial context here and we're just looking for homophobes to glorify! 11 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: I'm not saying anyone is superior to anyone but the idea that Israel is trying to genocide is just BS. ICJ: Israel is plausibly committing genocide. ForgottenSoul: only I get to decide that! Edited February 7 by Jjang 1 1
Zenyte Posted February 7 Posted February 7 20 minutes ago, Jjang said: "I dare these gays to go live one day in the Middle East" as if both of us aren't from the Middle East Being from the Middle East is different than living in the Middle East, but go off. Continue on with your mental gymnastics on a completely unrelated topic to the original post, lol. 1 6
ForgottenSoul Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jjang said: ok sorry then you're right the Houthis made global news because people were just very keen on cheering homophobic pirates, it had absolutely nothing to do with Palestine. I guess someone needs to send us a list of homophobic organizations to support since Palestine is an irrelevant non-crucial context here and we're just looking for homophobes to glorify! ICJ: Israel is plausibly committing genocide. ForgottenSoul: only I get to decide that! ICJ is a joke but I'm sure you love them considering their hatred towards Israel and plausibly doesn't mean it is 100% happening, Actually, numerous Western governments, USA all said it wasn't genocide because they see the intent is to not wipe out everyone in Gaza.. anyone with a brain can see that. Genocide has been watered down to civilian deaths in a war zone? I guess ICJ better call out all the other "genocides" that have happened. Interestingly they think the situation in Ukraine was not genocide, even though whole towns were wiped out. Edited February 7 by ForgottenSoul 1 8
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: ICJ is a joke but I'm sure you love them considering their hatred towards Israel and plausibly doesn't mean it is 100% happening, Actually, numerous Western governments, USA all said it wasn't genocide because they see the intent is to not wipe out everyone in Gaza.. anyone with a brain can see that. the law hates Israel ladies and gentlemen you've heard it here first 2
ForgottenSoul Posted February 7 Posted February 7 24 minutes ago, Jjang said: "I dare these gays to go live one day in the Middle East" as if both of us aren't from the Middle East Are either of you gay and out?
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