Luckitty Posted January 26 Posted January 26 the United States has bombed Yemen, Somalia, Syria & Iraq and helped Israel bomb Gaza, the west bank & Lebanon all in the first 3 weeks of 2024, great achievement for the US administration that promised to not continue the US t̶e̶r̶r̶o̶r̶i̶s̶m̶ wars
playwithme Posted January 26 Posted January 26 What about russia's daily bombing of Ukrainian civilians? Any threads about this? Very selective outrage. 10 1 2 4 34
ugo Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) well it was sort of justified Edited January 26 by ugo 2
State of Grace. Posted January 26 Posted January 26 One thing about Biden/American, they love bombing other countries
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted January 26 Popular Post Posted January 26 (edited) 33 minutes ago, playwithme said: What about russia's daily bombing of Ukrainian civilians? Any threads about this? Very selective outrage. There's an entire megathread dedicated to Russia's crimes against Ukraine. The irony of low-IQ liberals like you to scream "selective outrage" when you are literally justifying what Israel is doing to Palestinians. Edited January 26 by State of Grace. 29 2
Popular Post byzantium Posted January 26 Popular Post Posted January 26 37 minutes ago, playwithme said: What about russia's daily bombing of Ukrainian civilians? Any threads about this? Very selective outrage. So you agree that the U.S. is comparable to Russia here? 21 3
Popular Post Communion Posted January 26 Popular Post Posted January 26 39 minutes ago, playwithme said: What about russia's daily bombing of Ukrainian civilians? Any threads about this? If we're talking about selective outrage, I think it's interesting the Ukraine megathread rightfully has a pinned post with links to donate to Ukraine yet the Israel/Palestine one doesn't have one for donating to Palestinian causes. 19 1
Jjang Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 59 minutes ago, playwithme said: What about russia's daily bombing of Ukrainian civilians? Any threads about this? Very selective outrage. what selective outrage? the entire world and its sister were unanimously (and rightfully so) outraged and talking about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine when it happened. Are we living on the same planet? and unlike you, we are on the side of all oppressed people and nations. Including Ukraine. Our sympathy and solidarity do not come with a conditional rule book like with yours. It’s always the “14,000 Palestinians children had to die. it is what it is” people. Edited January 26 by Jjang 6
playwithme Posted January 26 Posted January 26 18 minutes ago, byzantium said: So you agree that the U.S. is comparable to Russia here? No, it's not even remotely comparable. The US is not bombing apartment blocks full of civilians on a daily basis. This is the definition of false equivalence, but I don't expect the unhinged "America bad" far-left to engage in good-faith discussions. Not to mention that the DemocracyNow organiation fully supports the Kremlin. 5 1 12
playwithme Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Jjang said: what selective outrage? the entire world and its sister were unanimously (and rightfully so) outraged and talking about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine when it happened. Are we living on the same planet? and unlike you, we are on the side of all oppressed people and nations. Including Ukraine. Our sympathy and solidarity do not come with a conditional rule book like with yours. It always the “14,000 Palestinians children had to die” people. Except that DemocracyNow are disingenuous "America bad" far-left hacks who openly support russia. 5
JennyWayne Posted January 26 Posted January 26 At the end of the day America is a simply warmongering nation and just a democratic version of Russia. 1 1
Communion Posted January 26 Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, playwithme said: No, it's not even remotely comparable. The US is not bombing apartment blocks full of civilians on a daily basis. Do you believe facilitating the sale of the bombs that blow up apartment buildings vs the dropping of the bombs is materially different enough of an action to absolve America of lies it helps to wipe off the map?
Zaram Posted January 26 Posted January 26 For people who want more information than a tweet headline. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2024/01/23/us-launches-first-drone-strike-of-the-year-in-somalia/ 1 1
i spit on haters Posted January 26 Posted January 26 36 minutes ago, Communion said: If we're talking about selective outrage, I think it's interesting the Ukraine megathread rightfully has a pinned post with links to donate to Ukraine yet the Israel/Palestine one doesn't have one for donating to Palestinian causes. Interesting. Never even noticed this. Big yikes.
Eternal220 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said: Why are they doing that? Like what's the purpose? To kill terrorists threatening long term peace in Somalia. Here is an airstrike conducted by Somali military on the same military group killing 20 militants. https://www.voanews.com/amp/officials-airstrike-in-somalia-kills-at-least-20-al-shabab-militants/7457251.html
BrokenMachine Posted January 26 Posted January 26 And yet some Americans wonder why so many people hate them. Spoiler: it's not jealousy like some deep nationalists want to believe 1
Taylena Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Biden is desperately trying to start another war, thinking his approval numbers will finally improve or something. It's so funny because that's what liberals said Trump would do, yet Trump didn't start any wars or bomb other countries indiscriminately. 1 1
pisuke Posted January 26 Posted January 26 43 minutes ago, playwithme said: Except that DemocracyNow are disingenuous "America bad" far-left hacks who openly support russia. But America is BAD. The evidence speaks for itself. 1
byzantium Posted January 26 Posted January 26 51 minutes ago, playwithme said: No, it's not even remotely comparable. The US is not bombing apartment blocks full of civilians on a daily basis. This is the definition of false equivalence, but I don't expect the unhinged "America bad" far-left to engage in good-faith discussions. Not to mention that the DemocracyNow organiation fully supports the Kremlin. You must have lost the plot of this conversation because you were the one that brought up the comparison in the first place.
Komet Posted January 26 Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, Zaram said: For people who want more information than a tweet headline. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2024/01/23/us-launches-first-drone-strike-of-the-year-in-somalia/ Somali military forces, supported by international partners, conducted the airstrike in the town of Galhareri, targeting sites the militants used to manufacture improvised firearms, bombs and other explosives. So the Somalian government worked with US, amongst others, against al-Shabab - an islamistic terrorist group, killing 3 militants? Well, of course ATRL-Qaeda is angry, US = bad, terrorists = good, right? Onto the next Kremlin propaganda piece, please 1 9 2
Communion Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Komet said: Somali military forces, supported by international partners, conducted the airstrike in the town of Galhareri, targeting sites the militants used to manufacture improvised firearms, bombs and other explosives. So the Somalian government worked with US, amongst others, against al-Shabab - an islamistic terrorist group, killing 3 militants? Well, of course ATRL-Qaeda is angry, US = bad, terrorists = good, right? Onto the next Kremlin propaganda piece, please I genuinely don't get how liberals like you became so right wing that your view of dealing with political extremists or just political conflict in general is then mass drone strikes or bombing campaigns. Let's do a thought experiment- Assad asked Russia for their assistance in bombing ISIS forces attacking the Syrian national army. It did not care if said bombs may also hit either civilians or Syrian rebel forces who were receiving aid and combat assistance from terrorist groups like Al-Nusra. Is Russia bombing Syria okay then because the legitimate government of Syria asked them to? There's always this rhetoric of alleged second campism that just doesn't exist. As a leftist, you don't see me calling for Iran to bomb Israel or like Florida for Palestine's suffering. As an American leftist, I just want my country to stop being the cause of why people die. I don't want my country to instead bomb Tel Aviv instead of Gaza; I want it to stop bombing everyone and be forced to participate in global diplomacy. Yet so many right wingers, including liberals, find their politick rooted in an inherent desire for violence and death. Edited January 26 by Communion 3 1
shimind Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Its election year and Biden wants those bombing supporters votes. So not suprised.
playwithme Posted January 26 Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, byzantium said: You must have lost the plot of this conversation because you were the one that brought up the comparison in the first place. You are the one who lost the plot. DemocracyNow, a far-left pro-Kremlin group that supports bombing apartments full of civilians on a daily basis, is trying to manufacture some selective outrage over liquidating three terrorists in cooperation with the Somali government. Find me a single post by DemocracyNow condemning russia's daily bombing of civilians in apartment buildings. https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/962759.html 20 minutes ago, pisuke said: But America is BAD. The evidence speaks for itself. If you support terrorism, yes. 5
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