album Justin Timberlake - 'Everything I Thought It Was'

[Braz]

Yeah, listening to it right now and while it's not bad, there's no big single. Fuck8ng Up the Club is kinda dated but bops, My Fave Drug is a Pharrell copy. 

[Green]

He's serving Jessie Ware in My Favorite Drug 

[allforyou]

3 hours ago, omrimayo said:

Why do you think he’s gonna sell 170k pure? Not in a billion years.

 

3 hours ago, Starkboy said:

Gurl…. this is 2024. 

I expected 80k but yeah the streaming numbers are too ugly, 50k seems more likely. Sad cause Selfish had a decent start but I guess the hate train is too strong.

 

3 hours ago, Popboi. said:

50k is more possible than 175k atp 

 

1 hour ago, Green said:

 

175k??? 

I don't think that he's gonna do 175K pure but with streaming, 175K is unlikely but to me it could be possible considering that MOTW did 293K

[kliamzJ3]

5 minutes ago, allforyou said:

 

 

 

I don't think that he's gonna do 175K pure but with streaming, 175K is unlikely but to me it could be possible considering that MOTW did 293K

He had the Super Bowl, and way less of a tarnished public image when that came out. 

[rmmas]

I’ll be shocked if he’s doing more than 80k tbh.

[Johnny Cash]

Not the album BOMBING

 

In other news I'm starting to like Liar

[TryMe]

I keep gravitating to this album. The only skip for me is Paradise. I didn't grow up on Nsync. 

 

It's a shame no one is checking for him anymore. But I think it's the reality for a lot of these 2000's artist. His ''scandal'' didn't help either. 

 

Usher, JT, JLo are struggling on the charts. I think Christina will follow the same trajectory. 

 

 

[Popboi.]

8 minutes ago, TryMe said:

I keep gravitating to this album. The only skip for me is Paradise. I didn't grow up on Nsync. 

 

It's a shame no one is checking for him anymore. But I think it's the reality for a lot of these 2000's artist. His ''scandal'' didn't help either. 

 

Usher, JT, JLo are struggling on the charts. I think Christina will follow the same trajectory. 

 

 

It’s a shame cause Usher, Jennifer and Justin planned their eras better than any of their’s since the early 2010s.

[CosTaSsSs]

There are some good track, but I feel the album should be shorter and have some of the tracks put as bonus. 

[Scandalous]

wait is it really possible he’s doing less than 100k???  i knew he wouldn’t do well in streaming but i never expected THAT low for physicals

[omrimayo]

HDD article is out…

less than 75K, less than Kacey and not even mentioned on the article which means… 50? Or less. 
we can be all sure that is his last album 300%.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

im guessing 45-55k atp

[Cbreezy]

9 minutes ago, omrimayo said:

HDD article is out…

less than 75K, less than Kacey and not even mentioned on the article which means… 50? Or less. 
we can be all sure that is his last album 300%.

Came to post this. 

 

Yeah, it's seemingly over for him commercially (in terms of being a top tier act). And I don't even mean that as shade, but much like his MTV era peers (e.g. Alicia, Xtina, Pink) once in that 50k, 60k etc first week window, it's virtually impossible to get back to big sales. 

 

From here on out I guess his thing will be tours, residencies, and legacy moments. He has a solid catalog.

 

The only things that makes this sting for him is that a) he for sure would have done better had it dropped before Britney's book and b) he promoted tf out of it and...nothing.

 

 

[JustRelax]

23 minutes ago, omrimayo said:

HDD article is out…

less than 75K, less than Kacey and not even mentioned on the article which means… 50? Or less. 
we can be all sure that is his last album 300%.

No need to be dramatic, I think HDD is ignoring him on purpose. Kacey is not doing tremendously better than Justin in streams and her pure sales is behind Justin. Let’s see.

[Armani?]

18 hours ago, Popboi. said:

I meant the album chart, considering how Selfish did on AM none of the individual tracks was ever going to chart.

 

Spotify debut for the album will prob be 7-9M at most.

How the songs are all charting is a better indicator than the album position on Apple.

 

And nnnn

[imabadkid]

10 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Came to post this. 

 

Yeah, it's seemingly over for him commercially (in terms of being a top tier act). And I don't even mean that as shade, but much like his MTV era peers (e.g. Alicia, Xtina, Pink) once in that 50k, 60k etc first week window, it's virtually impossible to get back to big sales. 

 

From here on out I guess his thing will be tours, residencies, and legacy moments. He has a solid catalog.

 

The only things that makes this sting for him is that a) he for sure would have done better had it dropped before Britney's book and b) he promoted tf out of it and...nothing.

 

 

JT's problem (and his team) is arrogance. It's not 2005... he has to reintroduce himself to people. He's not the major A-List act he was previously.

 

When Jessica Simpson came out with her now best-selling memoir she went EVERYWHERE... daytime talk shows, morning talk shows, podcasts, entertainment shows, book signings, print media, news media like NPR and CNN, radio (Ryan Seacrest show), etc. Her team understood the assignment - she's A-List to millennials who grew up watching Newlyweds on MTV but that was over 20 years ago. There's a whole generation of kids who may enjoy watching clips of her on TikTok but if they're going to buy her book she has to reintroduce herself to them. JT didn't do that, he thinks he's above it and still thinks it's 2006 when u can do SNL and Fallon and have massive first week sales.

 

[JustRelax]

6 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

JT's problem (and his team) is arrogance. It's not 2005... he has to reintroduce himself to people. He's not the major A-List act he was previously.

 

When Jessica Simpson came out with her now best-selling memoir she went EVERYWHERE... daytime talk shows, morning talk shows, podcasts, entertainment shows, book signings, print media, news media like NPR and CNN, radio (Ryan Seacrest show), etc. Her team understood the assignment - she's A-List to millennials who grew up watching Newlyweds on MTV but that was over 20 years ago. There's a whole generation of kids who may enjoy watching clips of her on TikTok but if they're going to buy her book she has to reintroduce herself to them. JT didn't do that, he thinks he's above it and still thinks it's 2006 when u can do SNL and Fallon and have massive first week sales.

 

I don’t think being everywhere would help much unless he will have a new persona of being a male pop villain which could make him look more appealing and relatable. Gen-Z are hating him coz of Britney’s book so his family man persona didn’t look sexy or convincing. And he’s too proud to abandon his “family man” image for better or worse.

 

Anyway, with his public image today and his age, we shouldn’t expect much. All of his peers except Beyoncé flopped including Miss Britney Spears herself(10 years go). 

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[imabadkid]

Just now, JustRelax said:

I don’t think being everywhere would help much unless he will have a new persona of being a male pop villain. Gen-Z who knows him are biased coz of Britney’s book. And he’s too proud to abandon his “family man” image for better or worse.

 

Anyway, with his public image today and his age, we shouldn’t expect much. All of his peers except Beyoncé flopped including Miss Britney Spears herself(10 years go). 

But what I'm saying is I don't agree with that... Jessica Simpson did it (granted with a book but her promo game was top notch and her sales speak to that). Just because you came out in the 90s/2000s doesn't mean u can't compete today especially with Gen Z. One just has to humble themselves and be willing to essentially start all over which is not ideal when you feel like you've "proven yourself" and you're a huge A-List star, having to do interviews on Entertainment Tonight or on a radio show seems "beneath" u but it's what's required to do massive sales. The problem is a lot of folks don't want to do that.

[xTurn]

I don't think Britney drama has nothing to do with his sales. There are people with controversies who continue to selling albums, even more if they are men.

His album is nothing new, I'm not saying is bad, but he's been out of the game for a long time. His comeback album should have been more risky in terms of sound. This album is more as nostalgic vibe than something new so too many people are not into it.

[JustRelax]

6 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

But what I'm saying is I don't agree with that... Jessica Simpson did it (granted with a book but her promo game was top notch and her sales speak to that). Just because you came out in the 90s/2000s doesn't mean u can't compete today especially with Gen Z. One just has to humble themselves and be willing to essentially start all over which is not ideal when you feel like you've "proven yourself" and you're a huge A-List star, having to do interviews on Entertainment Tonight or on a radio show seems "beneath" u but it's what's required to do massive sales. The problem is a lot of folks don't want to do that.

I guess he would rather die with pride.

[Yes, AND]

24 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

But what I'm saying is I don't agree with that... Jessica Simpson did it (granted with a book but her promo game was top notch and her sales speak to that). Just because you came out in the 90s/2000s doesn't mean u can't compete today especially with Gen Z. One just has to humble themselves and be willing to essentially start all over which is not ideal when you feel like you've "proven yourself" and you're a huge A-List star, having to do interviews on Entertainment Tonight or on a radio show seems "beneath" u but it's what's required to do massive sales. The problem is a lot of folks don't want to do that.

You cannot compare a book to music. Please be realistic. 

[Cbreezy]

1 hour ago, imabadkid said:

JT's problem (and his team) is arrogance. It's not 2005... he has to reintroduce himself to people. He's not the major A-List act he was previously.

 

When Jessica Simpson came out with her now best-selling memoir she went EVERYWHERE... daytime talk shows, morning talk shows, podcasts, entertainment shows, book signings, print media, news media like NPR and CNN, radio (Ryan Seacrest show), etc. Her team understood the assignment - she's A-List to millennials who grew up watching Newlyweds on MTV but that was over 20 years ago. There's a whole generation of kids who may enjoy watching clips of her on TikTok but if they're going to buy her book she has to reintroduce herself to them. JT didn't do that, he thinks he's above it and still thinks it's 2006 when u can do SNL and Fallon and have massive first week sales.

 

I don't know if I totally agree with this. 

 

In this new era of promotion, it's about pairing visibility with savvy out of the box moves. The latter being more important than the former. 

 

If anything, I feel he did a solid job of being in enough places without spamming. I think one issue was there not being another "thing" outside of the general/expected promo. Something to ensure sales.

 

Surely he could have made people have to preorder the album for presale access to the tour (which is selling)? Or make people pre-order the album to access those pop up shows he did? Smart retail partnerships.

 

More broadly, like @JustRelax said, there's an image issue. He's perceived as the bad guy. This is pretty unique in that it's all a retroactive lashing, which probably is confusing tf out of him/his team, because the same GP were going up for him (while he was guilty of the same sin). So, all of a sudden being enemy #1 in 2024 must be a trip. 

 

I'm a Janet fan, so while one would expect this to feel like a comeuppance of sorts, it actually doesn't at all. It's somewhat jarring that people are "just" becoming hip to the problematic angles of JT's story and at a time that his own redemption arc doesn't really work because he's already at the tail of what would be a Pop pin-up's peak years.. If anything the level of selective outrage and sudden soiling of his work ironically feels like what Janet experienced.

Edited March 16 by Cbreezy

[MatiRod]

I don't think radio tours would do anything for streams tbh. Not in 2024 with an established artist. At this point his business is probably mostly about touring, merch, and pure sales, for which he has to appeal to his existing fans.

 

If he had wanted to focus on big streaming numbers then the album would've been loaded with features, but that's not the case. Like, "Selfish" would've had a Travis Scott feature or something. He could've done a SZA feature (they had a song together for Trolls a couple years ago so I assume she'd be open). A Jack Harlow feature since he was on his album in 2022 as well. Instead the album is entirely solo except for an NSYNC feature which let's be real was never expected to be a smash.

 

It feels to me more like he just made the album he wanted to make, virtually all solo, and the traditional promo on TV seems geared towards the tour, which apparently is doing very well.

 

Edited March 16 by MatiRod

[kliamzJ3]

1 hour ago, imabadkid said:

JT's problem (and his team) is arrogance. It's not 2005... he has to reintroduce himself to people. He's not the major A-List act he was previously.

 

When Jessica Simpson came out with her now best-selling memoir she went EVERYWHERE... daytime talk shows, morning talk shows, podcasts, entertainment shows, book signings, print media, news media like NPR and CNN, radio (Ryan Seacrest show), etc. Her team understood the assignment - she's A-List to millennials who grew up watching Newlyweds on MTV but that was over 20 years ago. There's a whole generation of kids who may enjoy watching clips of her on TikTok but if they're going to buy her book she has to reintroduce herself to them. JT didn't do that, he thinks he's above it and still thinks it's 2006 when u can do SNL and Fallon and have massive first week sales.

 

He should’ve NEVER fired his old publicist Sonia …..she was a magician! It’s been down hill since then. SMH

[omrimayo]

He hits his low bottom and that's sad I must say, at least for me, and the album is good enough to do good numbers but that's not the case if the music good or not. Anyway, Technicolor is something else. Shame.