discussion Ubisoft exec says players must get used to “not owning their games”

[Karla Cabello]

then piracy isnt ilegal then

[Bloo]

16 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said:

As long as Gamepass continues to be successful it ain't happening. It might actually get worse before it gets better.

It might. But I think there might be a point where people get tired of it. Movies and music are made the same way as before. Movies and TV shows are more IP driven, but the content format is largely the same. It’s consumed the same way. Games lately have caught so much more flack of late for being incomplete and requiring large numbers of patches to be remotely playable. Shifting to the subscription based model is one of the biggest driving factors for this problem. Back in the old days when games literally couldn’t be updated with a patch, you had less of this problem. Games felt more complete and people didn’t have the same sense of dissatisfaction as they do now. 
 

I can see people experiencing fatigue with gaming much sooner than with music or film. 

[Harmonizer]

How many ******* subscriptions do they really think the average consumer can afford every month

[Mastamaind]

Just now, Harmonizer said:

How many ******* subscriptions do they really think the average consumer can afford every month

Exactly. These people are out of their f*cking mind.

[PillowCase]

I read that gaming companies want to phase out physical copies of their games to prevent people from re-selling them later on to other people. Because that way they don't get new profit from another person playing the game.

[BryceG]

1 hour ago, Harmonizer said:

How many ******* subscriptions do they really think the average consumer can afford every month

Not sure you understand the value of something like Ubisoft+. 
 

For the cost of 2 full priced games a year, you can subscribe to play unlimited Ubisoft games including new releases with cross play too.

 

The hurdle is you don’t actually own the games but it’s pretty good value if you’re into those types of games.

 

If you want to own the game, buy it later at deep discount. Your game saves carry over anyway. 

[Khal]

I don't know much about how game development works, but for people saying, "piracy", would it just not get to the point where developers/studios can install blockers on games where if you download a pirated version, your gameplay/progress is restricted or certain features are locked?

[Komet]

Imagine somebody from a bookstore breaking into your house and taking back a book you bought 4 years ago because 'acktchually you bought a license;) to own a copy of it, not book itself;)'. Literal brainrot.

 

Hopefully EU gets on top of this; either you 100% own things you buy, or it's made clear you're just renting something, not buying.. it would at least make people think twice if they want to spend 70€ on something that can dissapear at any time

[Komet]

2 minutes ago, Khal said:

I don't know much about how game development works, but for people saying, "piracy", would it just not get to the point where developers/studios can install blockers on games where if you download a pirated version, your gameplay/progress is restricted or certain features are locked?

Anti-piracy measures have been a thing almost as long video games have, and there's usually always a way to circumvent them even if it nowadays might take a bit longer to crack them.

[RideOrDie]

28 minutes ago, Khal said:

I don't know much about how game development works, but for people saying, "piracy", would it just not get to the point where developers/studios can install blockers on games where if you download a pirated version, your gameplay/progress is restricted or certain features are locked?

that's what cracks are for. when you install a free/trial version of a program and it asks you to purchase it for the unrestricted use, then you pirate the cracked version and it gives you full access. 

[Mastamaind]

48 minutes ago, BryceG said:

Not sure you understand the value of something like Ubisoft+. 
 

For the cost of 2 full priced games a year, you can subscribe to play unlimited Ubisoft games including new releases with cross play too.

 

The hurdle is you don’t actually own the games but it’s pretty good value if you’re into those types of games.

 

If you want to own the game, buy it later at deep discount. Your game saves carry over anyway. 

This all sounds semi-reasonable as an option out of all available models until the company decides that it's unprofitable to support a game and they just take it off their servers and you can't play it anymore. It's bullsh*t and these people know it.

[tiagol88]

The way gaming subscriptions are failing and these execs don’t know what to do about it lmao

[Harmonizer]

On 1/17/2024 at 3:22 AM, BryceG said:

Not sure you understand the value of something like Ubisoft+. 
 

For the cost of 2 full priced games a year, you can subscribe to play unlimited Ubisoft games including new releases with cross play too.

 

The hurdle is you don’t actually own the games but it’s pretty good value if you’re into those types of games.

 

If you want to own the game, buy it later at deep discount. Your game saves carry over anyway. 

I am not really a gamer, but that is not really what I am talking about. It seems like EVERY purchase is a subscription. That is going across the board. Movies, Gaming, Television, Apps (I used to be able to pay a one time purchase for an app, now they are all monthly subscriptions). So yes, while I do think there are more affordable alternatives. I was saying that if everyone keeps going towards a subscription based model, things will start failing. It's not sustainable to have 100+ Subscriptions a month. It's to the point where most people can't keep track of what they are paying for.

 

So I can see the value in a Ubisoft type, play now, buy later. But it doesn't eliminate the problem that subscriptions have gone out of control. I used to purchase things ONCE and it was mine. I didn't have to pay a monthly fee to use products that they can just delete content on whenever they want to avoid paying royalties.