i spit on haters Posted January 2 Posted January 2 5 hours ago, FOCK said: Hamas ends with the end of the occupation. Which is essentially where it all started. It's so simple yet they're still trying to make it all seem so complex. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted January 2 Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: Okay, fair point. I live in the red state of SC and can comfortably say that I won't be voting for Biden. If Dr. Cornel West is on the ballot then that is where my vote goes. If not, I'll just stick to voting locally. Biden is even losing support to Trump with young voters. Biden, corporate dems and neoliberals can't hide behind COVID anymore. It's essentially a relic of the past for most people and they're only really reminded of it when they see others wearing a mask. Which isn't nearly as ubiquitous as it once was. He's poling terribly across the board and the israel/Palestine "conflict" isn't helping him, either. If Biden loses, that's solely on him and corporate dems. Not us. Though I'm curious as to who they would place blame on this time. Surely not the "Bernie bros". Or would it be fully masks off in their covert racism and shift blame onto Muslim-Americans in Michigan for sitting out the election all together. Which many voters will do in various voting blocks. They’ll blame Bernie Bros even though all of his supporters have moved on from him and a good chunk are disgusted with his reluctance to even call for a ceasefire. They’ll blame Susan Sarandon again too, and every time there’s a bad court case decision, her name with continue trending on Xitter. They never get new playbooks on whom to blame; they shat on leftists over the losses of Gore and Kelly during the Bush years, and then also blamed us for the shellacking Obama got every midterm during his presidency. So all in all, it’ll be more of the same, I’d expect. However while they didn’t go the racist route with blaming working class black voters in Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit last time, they probably will be blasting the Muslims of Dearborn until they have to pander to those same Michiganders to vote for Newsom in 2028. 2
Chemist Posted January 2 Posted January 2 This escalation is scary and the consequence is that way more innocent people will die :/
ClashAndBurn Posted January 2 Posted January 2 It took them THIS long to condemn stated intent to commit ethnic cleansing from Israeli government officials? What about the comments Netanyahu reportedly made in the Likid meeting a few days ago? Yall gonna ignore that one?
jadeabove Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chemist said: This escalation is scary and the consequence is that way more innocent people will die :/ Honestly, I didn't think they were arrogant/suicidal enough to do this, and yet here we are. This is quite an escalation, indeed. Edited January 2 by jadeabove
chessguy99 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Lebanon and Syria never made a formal peace with Israel. That would necessitate recognizing Israel's right to exist, which they also never have done.
Nova_23 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 When Lebanon or Hezbollah now fire missiles into Israel, it’s their right to defend themselves right?
Vixen Eyes Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Unless I'm completely dumb, where in that does it hint at an ethnic cleansing? 1 1
Communion Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Just now, Vixen Eyes said: Unless I'm completely dumb, where in that does it hint at an ethnic cleansing? Do you believe their stated goal of the "migration" of 2M Gazans will be.....voluntary? 1
Cameltoe Chariot Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Just now, Vixen Eyes said: I'm completely dumb Spoiler Sorry I had to - Israel is actively killing Palestinians under the guise of "protecting Israeli Jews", while their actual motive is to secure more land for the apartheid state of Israel by eradicating Palestinians by any means necessary 1 4
Thickorita Posted January 2 Posted January 2 'We are not another star on the American flag', alright cut the cameras and cut the funding then 9
ZIVERT Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Meanwhile, actual Israelis: Everyone hates Ben Gvir. Everyone. 2
State of Grace. Posted January 2 Posted January 2 1 minute ago, ZIVERT said: Meanwhile, actual Israelis: Everyone hates Ben Gvir. Everyone. Cute attempt. Also actual Israelis: Just because they hate a certain politician doesn't mean they don't actually support the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing and the military occupation. This "its just a bad government uwu" argument that yall Israel apologists keep repeating can stay in 2023. 7 1
Varrock Posted January 2 Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, Thickorita said: 'We are not another star on the American flag', alright cut the cameras and cut the funding then They won’t, because Israel is the US’ only foot in the Middle East and I think they’re starting to realize that more and more lol. They both depend on each other, otherwise the Democratic Party would’ve cut ties ages ago.
45seconds Posted January 2 Posted January 2 1 minute ago, State of Grace. said: Cute attempt. Also actual Israelis: Just because they hate a certain politician doesn't mean they don't actually support the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing and the military occupation. This "its just a bad government uwu" argument that yall Israel apologists keep repeating can stay in 2023. You’re attempting to lump all of them together which I find kind of strange. Because there has been this weird as hell narrative that the bombing (kidnapping, etc) of Israeli people is somehow justified by some polling. 2
ZIVERT Posted January 2 Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Cute attempt. Also actual Israelis: Just because they hate a certain politician doesn't mean they don't actually support the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing and the military occupation. This "its just a bad government uwu" argument that yall Israel apologists keep repeating can stay in 2023. Source: Al-Mayadeen. I’m sure they have the finger on the pulse of the average Israeli. 1 1
rihannafan Posted January 2 Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Gui Blackout said: A targeted strike on a wanted senior terrorist leader that is hiding like a little ***** in another country? Absolutely, yeah. And I'm not sure Lebanon is in a position to clutch pearls right now. Oh my...
Bosque Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Cute attempt. Also actual Israelis: Just because they hate a certain politician doesn't mean they don't actually support the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing and the military occupation. This "its just a bad government uwu" argument that yall Israel apologists keep repeating can stay in 2023. Considering that 72% of Palestinians believe that it was “correct” to actually murder over 1,000 Israelis in one day and take over 200 hostages, I’m not sure that a majority of Israelis being in favor of “encouraging voluntary immigration” paints the picture you would like painted https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-shows-soaring-support-for-hamas-in-west-bank-as-90-say-abbas-should-resign/amp/ Edited January 2 by Dephira 2 3
Jjang Posted January 2 Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Source: Al-Mayadeen. I’m sure they have the finger on the pulse of the average Israeli. Actually the source is Israel’s Channel 14. I don’t know if you can read Hebrew but ‘Al-Mayadeen’ just translated the results. 68% - strongly support 15% - moderately support 8% - support but not strongly 9% - do not support Another Israeli newspaper (called Liberal) with a majority leftist/liberal audience also did a survey asking whether Israel should occupy and re-settle in Gaza and the majority still voted yes. 63% - yes 26% - no 11% - I don’t know 1
State of Grace. Posted January 2 Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, 45seconds said: You’re attempting to lump all of them together which I find kind of strange. Because there has been this weird as hell narrative that the bombing (kidnapping, etc) of Israeli people is somehow justified by some polling. Of course, there are people in Israel who are against the war crimes happening there but the majority of Israelis are genocidal freaks. Manyyyyy of them have blood on their hands as well because Israel made IDF service mandatory. So they're barely even "civilians". The Israeli "liberals" like the ones listed above might oppose Bibi and his government but they're still 100% pro-apartheid and pro-occupation. That's the "normal" state there for all parties from left to right wing. All of the parties are in agreement when it comes to this. Israel is a genocidal society and liberal zionists are still...zionists at the end of the day. 6 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Source: Al-Mayadeen. I’m sure they have the finger on the pulse of the average Israeli. Can you quickly list all the non-Arab political parties in Israel that oppose the occupation and genocide? Or I'll do it for you: Meretz. ONE party. And they quite literally couldn't even garner enough votes to get a seat in the Knesset. You're just being purposefully dense if you still believe that a liberal government wouldn't have been murdering and carpet-bombing Gazans too. 2
FOCK Posted January 2 Posted January 2 2 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: It took them THIS long to condemn stated intent to commit ethnic cleansing from Israeli government officials? What about the comments Netanyahu reportedly made in the Likid meeting a few days ago? Yall gonna ignore that one? MANIACAL 3 1
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