news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[LIT]

 

[Gui Blackout]

19 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

Is this supposed to be a justification for attacking another country?

A targeted strike on a wanted senior terrorist leader that is hiding like a little ***** in another country? Absolutely, yeah. 

 

And I'm not sure Lebanon is in a position to clutch pearls right now.

[Communion]

6 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

A targeted strike on a wanted senior terrorist leader that is hiding like a little ***** in another country? Absolutely, yeah. 

 

And I'm not sure Lebanon is in a position to clutch pearls right now.

Time for Lula to bomb Florida and take out your fave Bolsonaro. 

[West Coast]

They need to be stopped 

[Archetype]

Most likely with US rockets/artillery 

[Raptus]

1 hour ago, nadiamendell said:

Israel over there trying to start WW3 while Genocide Joe and his cronies continue to provide them with money and weapons while they look the other way. What is the breaking point? 

To start WW3 you need to have conflict in relevant place (East Asia, Europe or North America). This will sound insensitive, but no one cares enough about Israel/Palestine to start world war for them.   

[Jjang]

1 hour ago, Gui Blackout said:

Turn out Hamas was in fact there!

 

 

if Lebanon started shelling the homes of the endless genocidal Israeli war criminals you and your buddies would be out here calling it the biggest threat to humanity since the Holocaust or at the very least condemn Lebanon for escalating the war and attacking poor Israel’s civilian areas.  

 

Let’s not fool ourselves. Okay? Everyone here understands the issue very well. Everyone here 100% understands the “Israeli side” very well. We heard you. We’re just not on your side 

Edited January 2, 2024 by Jjang

[Last Boy on Earth]

1 hour ago, Gui Blackout said:

Turn out Hamas was in fact there!

 

 

You being a Israel defender is so on brand

[ClashAndBurn]

2 hours ago, i spit on haters said:

Agreed with everything you said but to be fair, the refusal to join the IDF has been increasing year by year. And they list the genocide being inflicted on Palestinians as one of the main reasons why they're not joining the military. Which is great but also crazy how they're actually being jailed for it. It's not even presented as a choice for them. Many are even being imprisoned for months and some even years. It's either join us in committing ethic-cleansing or have your basic rights stripped from you and rot in a jail cell.

 

The refusal to join the IDF will only increase even more so now with young Israelis. Sadly, they'll be jailed. Some even ostracized from family and friends for not submitting to their country's tyrannical and profoundly egregious ways of governing.   

 

And I hope you aren't voting for Biden. I'm sure you regret doing so now. I knew I ultimately would which is one of MANY reasons why I voted green party. It would be no different under Trump. The two are one and the same underneath the surface. Many see that now. 

I have zero interest in voting for Biden unless polling tightens a lot closer than it looks like it’s going to. At which point I’ll agonize over it and come to a conclusion when it’s relevant. But it looks like he’s going to lose Georgia pretty handily this time - possibly even worse than Clinton did in 2016, so at this point hopefully it won’t even matter. At this point, I feel like the only ones whose vote really matters are Wisconsin residents anyway.

 

The only reason I would vote defensively that way is for the Supreme Court and preventing a younger ideologue from coming in and allowing Clarence Thomas to bow out early for a comfortable retirement.

 

With Israel, Biden is still the least of three evils, because the only other notable candidates. Trump and Kennedy, are even more extremist warhawks that would actively commit boots on the ground and try provoking broader regional warfare with Hezbollah and Iran. There are reasons to vote that way, but the likeliest scenario, where Biden is losing handily across the board because he’s been a feckless piece of ****, no amount of VBNMW will save him from himself.

 

I wish I lived in a state where the outcome was more certain so I could comfortably sit this election out and every other one that comes after. But for the moment… I don’t know enough about where we will be in 10 months

[ZeroSuitBritney]

Absolutely disgusting of the NYT 

 

 

[Blue Jeans]

2024 starting out with a bang  why can’t we, supposedly intelligent animals, have peace among ourselves?

[i spit on haters]

7 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

I have zero interest in voting for Biden unless polling tightens a lot closer than it looks like it’s going to. At which point I’ll agonize over it and come to a conclusion when it’s relevant. But it looks like he’s going to lose Georgia pretty handily this time - possibly even worse than Clinton did in 2016, so at this point hopefully it won’t even matter. At this point, I feel like the only ones whose vote really matters are Wisconsin residents anyway.

 

The only reason I would vote defensively that way is for the Supreme Court and preventing a younger ideologue from coming in and allowing Clarence Thomas to bow out early for a comfortable retirement.

 

With Israel, Biden is still the least of three evils, because the only other notable candidates. Trump and Kennedy, are even more extremist warhawks that would actively commit boots on the ground and try provoking broader regional warfare with Hezbollah and Iran. There are reasons to vote that way, but the likeliest scenario, where Biden is losing handily across the board because he’s been a feckless piece of ****, no amount of VBNMW will save him from himself.

 

I wish I lived in a state where the outcome was more certain so I could comfortably sit this election out and every other one that comes after. But for the moment… I don’t know enough about where we will be in 10 months

Okay, fair point. I live in the red state of SC and can comfortably say that I won't be voting for Biden. If Dr. Cornel West is on the ballot then that is where my vote goes. If not, I'll just stick to voting locally. Biden is even losing support to Trump with young voters. Biden, corporate dems and neoliberals can't hide behind COVID anymore. It's essentially a relic of the past for most people and they're only really reminded of it when they see others wearing a mask. Which isn't nearly as ubiquitous as it once was.

 

He's poling terribly across the board and the israel/Palestine "conflict" isn't helping him, either. If Biden loses, that's solely on him and corporate dems. Not us. Though I'm curious as to who they would place blame on this time. Surely not the "Bernie bros". Or would it be fully masks off in their covert racism and shift blame onto Muslim-Americans in Michigan for sitting out the election all together. Which many voters will do in various voting blocks. 

[i spit on haters]

5 hours ago, FOCK said:

 

Hamas ends with the end of the occupation.

 

Which is essentially where it all started. It's so simple yet they're still trying to make it all seem so complex. 

[ClashAndBurn]

6 minutes ago, i spit on haters said:

Okay, fair point. I live in the red state of SC and can comfortably say that I won't be voting for Biden. If Dr. Cornel West is on the ballot then that is where my vote goes. If not, I'll just stick to voting locally. Biden is even losing support to Trump with young voters. Biden, corporate dems and neoliberals can't hide behind COVID anymore. It's essentially a relic of the past for most people and they're only really reminded of it when they see others wearing a mask. Which isn't nearly as ubiquitous as it once was.

 

He's poling terribly across the board and the israel/Palestine "conflict" isn't helping him, either. If Biden loses, that's solely on him and corporate dems. Not us. Though I'm curious as to who they would place blame on this time. Surely not the "Bernie bros". Or would it be fully masks off in their covert racism and shift blame onto Muslim-Americans in Michigan for sitting out the election all together. Which many voters will do in various voting blocks. 

They’ll blame Bernie Bros even though all of his supporters have moved on from him and a good chunk are disgusted with his reluctance to even call for a ceasefire. They’ll blame Susan Sarandon again too, and every time there’s a bad court case decision, her name with continue trending on Xitter. They never get new playbooks on whom to blame; they shat on leftists over the losses of Gore and Kelly during the Bush years, and then also blamed us for the shellacking Obama got every midterm during his presidency.

 

So all in all, it’ll be more of the same, I’d expect. However while they didn’t go the racist route with blaming working class black voters in Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit last time, they probably will be blasting the Muslims of Dearborn until they have to pander to those same Michiganders to vote for Newsom in 2028.

[Chemist]

This escalation is scary and the consequence is that way more innocent people will die :/

[ClashAndBurn]

It took them THIS long to condemn stated intent to commit ethnic cleansing from Israeli government officials?  

 

What about the comments Netanyahu reportedly made in the Likid meeting a few days ago? Yall gonna ignore that one?  

[jadeabove]

8 minutes ago, Chemist said:

This escalation is scary and the consequence is that way more innocent people will die :/

Honestly, I didn't think they were arrogant/suicidal enough to do this, and yet here we are. This is quite an escalation, indeed.

Edited January 2, 2024 by jadeabove

[chessguy99]

Lebanon and Syria never made a formal peace with Israel. That would necessitate recognizing Israel's right to exist, which they also never have done.

[Nova_23]

Welp. Remember when Israel said Beirut next? 
 

 

[Nova_23]

 

[Nova_23]

When Lebanon or Hezbollah now fire missiles into Israel, it’s their right to defend themselves right? 

[Communion]

 

 

 

 

[Vixen Eyes]

Unless I'm completely dumb, where in that does it hint at an ethnic cleansing?

[Communion]

Just now, Vixen Eyes said:

Unless I'm completely dumb, where in that does it hint at an ethnic cleansing?

Do you believe their stated goal of the "migration" of 2M Gazans will be.....voluntary?

[Cameltoe Chariot]

Just now, Vixen Eyes said:

I'm completely dumb

 

Spoiler

Sorry I had to - Israel is actively killing Palestinians under the guise of "protecting Israeli Jews", while their actual motive is to secure more land for the apartheid state of Israel by eradicating Palestinians by any means necessary