Kassi Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mean Trees said: Coming here claiming you survived a genocide as a silencing tactic is very interesting. I would have never thought the resident moderates would expose themselves in such a way. All I shared was my frame of reference. The same way ATRL’s Palestinians, Israelis, Western Arabs, and Western Jews share theirs. If you feel silenced, that’s on you. I never asked anyone not to speak from their experience (or lack thereof). The takeaway here is not to presume people are “deeply stupid”, like the post I replied to, simply because their worldviews aren’t shaped like yours. 3
Kassi Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 18 hours ago, Communion said: I'm sorry but this is grossly a misappropriation of identity politics. Countless people who went through the Rwandan genocide, in addition to thousands of genocide scholars consider Israel's actions against Palestinians to be genocide. Let alone - again - the metrics of population you were are not how genocide is defined, and if it were, this: And this: Tell very similar stories. And just to be extra thorough on this ridiculous post, cause I can't fathom the audacity behind making this comparison, the creator of the chart (Lyman Stone) had this to say: Quote Notice that in 1948, the Muslim and Christian populations actually decline. That’s the because during the 1947–48 conflict, many Arabs in the Land Between fled the conflict into other countries, especially Jordan and Lebanon. I do not count Jordan and Lebanon in any of my estimates, and so these refugees fall out of my sample. This is the period that Palestinians today refer to as the “Nakba,” meaning “disaster.” Since 1950, Muslim and Jewish populations have both risen dramatically, keeping a roughly stable numeric gap between them in favor of Jews. [...] Palestinians bet the farm on the idea that, in the words of their own generals in the 1948 war, they could “sweep the Jews into the sea,” i.e. successfully genocide them. The Palestinian political strategy 1919–1948 was entirely based on the idea that, bereft of British support, the Jews would be easy prey. This was the strategic calculus motivating repeated Palestinian choices to reject compromises, forego participation in political processes, and engage in destructive conflicts. This calculus was catastrophically wrong. https://medium.com/migration-issues/who-has-claim-3-000-years-of-religion-in-the-land-between-23f220a697f7#:~:text=Notice that in,favor of Jews. 3
Headlock Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said: Oh so you just genuinely haven't got the faintest idea about what you're talking about, got it. I knew a lot of the ATRL zionists were supremely uneducated on this matter, but you've certainly proven to be the most persistent in continuing to spout off whatever information you run across in these propaganda campaigns as absolute fact. Truly, this is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen happen on this site, and that's really saying something. You don't have a bit of interest or curiosity in learning anything, you're just in here going full on Nazi and applauding a genocide. That user is not uneducated, they know what they are doing. At a certain point you can no longer give someone the benefit of doubt of being ignorant when they are spouting out pro-genocidal language. They are just simply pro-genocide. 13
ClashAndBurn Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Anyway, enough engaging with the genocide denialism for now Joe Biden has basically told Israel this behavior is okay, so they’re going to keep doing it 1
Luckitty Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 12 hours ago, State of Grace. said: On today's episode of the "most moral army in the world" 🥰🥰🥰🥰 Imagine if a palestinian said that? It would be all over the news in the west and israel & america would probably use it as an excuse to ethnically cleanse every single palestinian 1 1
rihannafan Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Lol at that User going from 'there was no palestine' to 'palestine' started a war against Israel. That is spam at this point. 3
BorderBoy Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 It's kinda sad that the world is just getting used to read that Gaza people are getting killed in big numbers. I remember when Israel bombed the Baptise Hospital and killed hundreds of Palestinians and everyone went crazy but now the occupation troops are committing massacres left and right daily and nobody seems to care anymore. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Former Israeli PM trying to manufacture consent for the US to engage in direct war with Iran, nbd
BorderBoy Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 This girl also spoke about the aggression that happened in 2021. Can you imagine keeping living in wars after wars?
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 20 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Former Israeli PM trying to manufacture consent for the US to engage in direct war with Iran, nbd Israel would never attack iran on their own, they would get destroyed so they're trying to get the US to go to war on their behalf
Aston Martin Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: 1 hour ago, Jjang said: The way I've been told that Biden's hands are tied in regards to making any meaningful change (especially when Roe was overturned) but the second there's a genocide to fund he has presidential authority. This is revolting. 3 1
Cesar Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 it mindboggles me when people deny this genocide going on. just shows you what kind of person they truly are 6
Cesar Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Aston Martin said: The way I've been told that Biden's hands are tied in regards to making any meaningful change (especially when Roe was overturned) but the second there's a genocide to fund he has presidential authority. This is revolting. i wouldn’t be surprised if part of the funds will end up back in congress. just another way to steal money from the american people
Luckitty Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 I remember when the genocide started I was watching a political analysis video and the guy said something like if the world doesn't punish israel for attacking civilians then other countries will see it as a sign that they can do the same and won't be punished because it would show the world's hypocrisy for not punishing israel
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