news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[pisuke]

1 minute ago, Komet said:

Terrorism apologists flocking to this thread like clockwork  Screaming 'its propaganda!! western media!!' while having Al Jazeera opened in another tab, I'm giggling

Wow a genocide enabler giggling

[gatito]

i have a hard time believing bs like this 

[SeeingStars1515]

7 minutes ago, Communion said:

The media is made up of people. It's just a collection of powerful peopoe. What are you even trying to sau?

 

So you're not going to acknowledge it similarly is bad and both harms Palestinians and Jews when Western media does no different here and spreads baseless conspiracies?

I'm saying that the trope that there is a global cabal of Jews running the world has been a longtime stereotype that has been propagated in Pro-Palestinian and anti-Semitic channels.  So your hypothetical is already true. 

 

Yes - it is wrong to imply the world should be on the lookout for global Hamas-organized attacks. It should be clear if the suspected attack is planned by Hamas itself or a small group of angry Hamas-supporters.

[Delirious]

2 minutes ago, pisuke said:

Wow a genocide enabler giggling

You're doing it again. Literally no-one said anything about that? Are you purposely trying to antagonize us? Well it's not working, in fact it's failing miserably 

 

It's embarrassing 

[ClashAndBurn]

5 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

You stan Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, two of the deadliest terrorists the world has ever seen. Sit.  

[Jjang]

15 minutes ago, Delirious said:

 

Search for it. I ain't gonna waste more time with people like you who won't condemn Hamas actions.

Your problem is with Palestinians existing in their homeland with all their rights granted. Which is why you were playing “both sides” game even before the Hamas attack - which now became a convenient card to use to absolve yourself of any real context and just “condemn both sides” and run away. 

 

Don’t get it twisted. It’s us who are not gonna waste time on you. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[pisuke]

How does it feel like to be on the wrong side of history while thousands of innocent people are being brutally massacred? 

[Karla Cabello]

6 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

gee, wonder why

[Both Sides Now]

7 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

Are you talking about the IDF or Zionists in general? 

[Jjang]

9 minutes ago, Komet said:

Terrorism apologists flocking to this thread like clockwork  Screaming 'its propaganda!! western media!!' while having Al Jazeera opened in another tab, I'm giggling

ok mr ynet and channel 14 

[Delirious]

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Your problem is with Palestinians existing in their homeland with all their rights granted. Which is why you were playing “both sides” game even before the Hamas attack. 

 

Don’t get it twisted. It’s us who are not gonna waste time on you. 

Where did I say this? I'd like to see solid receipts.

 

Seems like you're wasting quite a bit of time making fake imaginary stories about me!

[Virgos Groove]

"Moderate" Israel defenders talking about "the left supports terrorists!!!1" as they bat for an apartheid state committing a genocide.

 

You are the 21st century equivalent of "well, we COULD end apartheid, but Mandela is a TERRORIST and the savages will kill all the whites in the country" and "I understand the Jews are angry, but the violence in the Warsaw Ghetto in unacceptable".

[Miss Show Business]

1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said:

Are you talking about the IDF or Zionists in general? 

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

[Jjang]

4 minutes ago, Delirious said:

Where did I say this? I'd like to see solid receipts.

 

Seems like you're wasting quite a bit of time making fake imaginary stories about me!

we all saw your posts in the Israel/Palestine mega thread. I can easily bookmark a few and post them here when I’m home like why are you setting yourself up when your bias towards the actively genocidal state is as bright as the sun 

[Delirious]

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

we all saw your posts in the Israel/Palestine mega thread. I can easily bookmark a few and post them here when I’m home like why are you setting yourself up when your bias towards the actively genocidal state is as bright as the sun 

Ok go ahead. Anything is better than being a Hamas boot licker and sympathizing with terrorists!!!

 

I have yet to see you condemn Hamas. Let's talk about that!!

[Jjang]

3 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

oh how noble of you. you won’t say that the IDF is in the clear! (all while right now as we speak the IDF is committing a massacre in Jenin, 150 kilometers away from Gaza and where Hamas does not govern) 

 

 

[ugo]

People calling WhatsApp screenshots credible but when it's a news source and done by authorities it's fake 

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Delirious said:

Ok go ahead. Anything is better than being a Hamas boot licker and sympathizing with terrorists!!!

 

I have yet to see you condemn Hamas. Let's talk about that!!

Do you condemn the terrorist creation of Israel? the IDF formed out of self proclaimed fascist and terrorist Lehi + Etzel. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[Virgos Groove]

 

I've never met a nice Israeli.

[Both Sides Now]

19 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

Which governments called them terrorists? Israel? The one that has sanctioned the slaughter of 20 thousand people in 2 months?

 

For the record, I don’t support Hamas as the governing body of Gaza. But you have to be missing part of your brain to not understand why Hamas exists.
 

Look at the videos of Palestinian children who have just become orphans because of Israel’s bombing. Do you expect them to grow and say “Hmmm well the USA calls Hamas terrorists so I guess they’re right!! Israel was just defending itself by killing my family and maiming me”. Get real.

 

Blaming everything on Hamas just perpetuates this cycle of violence that harms Palestinians and Israelis (but mostly Palestinians). 
 

Reminder: the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t end by bombing Derry until the IRA just disappeared. They ended by acknowledging the situation which led to Irish Nationalists to take up arms.  The IRA were “terrorists” too. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Both Sides Now

[Delirious]

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Do you condemn the terrorist creation of Israel? 

Do you condemn the terrorist organisation that is Hamas?

 

Or better yet, the massacre that happened on Oct 7 that killed over 1000 Jews?

Edited December 15, 2023 by Delirious

[wastedpotential]

While it's highly improbable that the people arrested are affiliated with Hamas in an official capacity (let alone acting upon long running Hamas plans that seem to be counter-intuitive to Hamas' stated goals), it wouldn't surprise me if these people were motivated to start planning for an attack by what's happening in Gaza and the German establishment decided to twist it in a way that would suit their public relations needs.

 

With an announcement this public, there will need to be a trial, and I don't think the German government has gotten desperate enough yet to just arrest random people off the street and call them terrorists, so I'm assuming there was some sort of conspiracy uncovered. The Hamas weapons cache and Lebanese leadership and the random minor Danish street gang (which was actually dissolved by the Danish Supreme Court in 2021, not that that means much for a street gang) are all total bullshit, though. 

[Bosque]

Not people full on denying the existence of Hamas terrorism now because it doesn’t fit their narrative  the full on “9/11 was an inside job”-level conspiracies

[Miss Show Business]

Just now, Both Sides Now said:

Blaming everything on Hamas just perpetuates this cycle of violence that harms Palestinians and Israelis (but mostly Palestinians). 

 

Reminder: the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t end by bombing Derry until the IRA just disappeared. They ended by acknowledging the situation which led to Irish Nationalists to take up arms.  The IRA were terrorists too. 

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th? Who was it that continuously uses civilian hospitals as bases and uses civilians as shields?

 

Hamas holds a lot of blame for everything going on. Let me be clear, too: Israel should be held accountable for any violations of international law. This does not mean I 100% agree with the scale of their response.

 

However, Hamas does nothing but endanger the very lives they'd tell you they're trying to protect. There's a myriad of reasons nobody should support Hamas, as I'm sure there are for the IDF too, yet here we are: discussing this issue with radicals who sympathise and downplay Hamas's crimes.

[Virgos Groove]

1 minute ago, Miss Show Business said:

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th?

You Zionists are NOT about to revise history and pretend that Palestine was some zen paradise before that date. Israeli settlers were invading Palestinian holy sites three DAYS before October 7th.