news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Virgos Groove]

"Moderate" Israel defenders talking about "the left supports terrorists!!!1" as they bat for an apartheid state committing a genocide.

 

You are the 21st century equivalent of "well, we COULD end apartheid, but Mandela is a TERRORIST and the savages will kill all the whites in the country" and "I understand the Jews are angry, but the violence in the Warsaw Ghetto in unacceptable".

[Miss Show Business]

1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said:

Are you talking about the IDF or Zionists in general? 

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

[Jjang]

4 minutes ago, Delirious said:

Where did I say this? I'd like to see solid receipts.

 

Seems like you're wasting quite a bit of time making fake imaginary stories about me!

we all saw your posts in the Israel/Palestine mega thread. I can easily bookmark a few and post them here when I’m home like why are you setting yourself up when your bias towards the actively genocidal state is as bright as the sun 

[Delirious]

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

we all saw your posts in the Israel/Palestine mega thread. I can easily bookmark a few and post them here when I’m home like why are you setting yourself up when your bias towards the actively genocidal state is as bright as the sun 

Ok go ahead. Anything is better than being a Hamas boot licker and sympathizing with terrorists!!!

 

I have yet to see you condemn Hamas. Let's talk about that!!

[Jjang]

3 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

oh how noble of you. you won’t say that the IDF is in the clear! (all while right now as we speak the IDF is committing a massacre in Jenin, 150 kilometers away from Gaza and where Hamas does not govern) 

 

 

[ugo]

People calling WhatsApp screenshots credible but when it's a news source and done by authorities it's fake 

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Delirious said:

Ok go ahead. Anything is better than being a Hamas boot licker and sympathizing with terrorists!!!

 

I have yet to see you condemn Hamas. Let's talk about that!!

Do you condemn the terrorist creation of Israel? the IDF formed out of self proclaimed fascist and terrorist Lehi + Etzel. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[Virgos Groove]

 

I've never met a nice Israeli.

[Both Sides Now]

19 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

I'm talking about HAMAS, the group that's identified by multiple governments to be a terrorist organization.

 

I won't detract from the IDF and say they are in the clear and/or get a pass. But let's acknowledge reality and not sympathize with terrorists? I mean, really?!

Which governments called them terrorists? Israel? The one that has sanctioned the slaughter of 20 thousand people in 2 months?

 

For the record, I don’t support Hamas as the governing body of Gaza. But you have to be missing part of your brain to not understand why Hamas exists.
 

Look at the videos of Palestinian children who have just become orphans because of Israel’s bombing. Do you expect them to grow and say “Hmmm well the USA calls Hamas terrorists so I guess they’re right!! Israel was just defending itself by killing my family and maiming me”. Get real.

 

Blaming everything on Hamas just perpetuates this cycle of violence that harms Palestinians and Israelis (but mostly Palestinians). 
 

Reminder: the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t end by bombing Derry until the IRA just disappeared. They ended by acknowledging the situation which led to Irish Nationalists to take up arms.  The IRA were “terrorists” too. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Both Sides Now

[Delirious]

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Do you condemn the terrorist creation of Israel? 

Do you condemn the terrorist organisation that is Hamas?

 

Or better yet, the massacre that happened on Oct 7 that killed over 1000 Jews?

Edited December 15, 2023 by Delirious

[hoax]

While it's highly improbable that the people arrested are affiliated with Hamas in an official capacity (let alone acting upon long running Hamas plans that seem to be counter-intuitive to Hamas' stated goals), it wouldn't surprise me if these people were motivated to start planning for an attack by what's happening in Gaza and the German establishment decided to twist it in a way that would suit their public relations needs.

 

With an announcement this public, there will need to be a trial, and I don't think the German government has gotten desperate enough yet to just arrest random people off the street and call them terrorists, so I'm assuming there was some sort of conspiracy uncovered. The Hamas weapons cache and Lebanese leadership and the random minor Danish street gang (which was actually dissolved by the Danish Supreme Court in 2021, not that that means much for a street gang) are all total bullshit, though. 

[Bosque]

Not people full on denying the existence of Hamas terrorism now because it doesn’t fit their narrative  the full on “9/11 was an inside job”-level conspiracies

[Miss Show Business]

Just now, Both Sides Now said:

Blaming everything on Hamas just perpetuates this cycle of violence that harms Palestinians and Israelis (but mostly Palestinians). 

 

Reminder: the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t end by bombing Derry until the IRA just disappeared. They ended by acknowledging the situation which led to Irish Nationalists to take up arms.  The IRA were terrorists too. 

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th? Who was it that continuously uses civilian hospitals as bases and uses civilians as shields?

 

Hamas holds a lot of blame for everything going on. Let me be clear, too: Israel should be held accountable for any violations of international law. This does not mean I 100% agree with the scale of their response.

 

However, Hamas does nothing but endanger the very lives they'd tell you they're trying to protect. There's a myriad of reasons nobody should support Hamas, as I'm sure there are for the IDF too, yet here we are: discussing this issue with radicals who sympathise and downplay Hamas's crimes.

[Virgos Groove]

1 minute ago, Miss Show Business said:

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th?

You Zionists are NOT about to revise history and pretend that Palestine was some zen paradise before that date. Israeli settlers were invading Palestinian holy sites three DAYS before October 7th.

[Jjang]

Just now, Delirious said:

Do you condemn the terrorist organisation that is Hamas?

what happens after one condemns Hamas? does the illegal murderous military occupation of 4 million Palestinians in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t govern suddenly end after 60 years? 

[Communion]

33 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

I don't think posts like this that aim to heighten anti-Palestinian sentiment and frame someone like this murdered child as a terrorist are helpful to Jewish people:

 

[Jjang]

7 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th? Who was it that continuously uses civilian hospitals as bases and uses civilians as shields?

 

Hamas holds a lot of blame for everything going on. Let me be clear, too: Israel should be held accountable for any violations of international law. This does not mean I 100% agree with the scale of their response.

 

However, Hamas does nothing but endanger the very lives they'd tell you they're trying to protect. There's a myriad of reasons nobody should support Hamas, as I'm sure there are for the IDF too, yet here we are: discussing this issue with radicals who sympathise and downplay Hamas's crimes.

There was never a ceasefire. Israel never existed peacefully. Not for one day in its history. 

 

so today’s Jenin massacre (where Hamas doesn’t govern, 160 kms away from Gaza) was justified? just a casual day in a life of a Palestinian? 

 

what if Lebanese soldiers decided to raid a northern Israeli Kibbutz under the pretense that they want to avenge the three innocent girls Israel bombed in Lebanon last week. Would you be outraged or would you not even give it the slightest attention the way you do when Palestinians get slaughtered every day in broad daylight? 

[khalyan]

Lets move this conversation back to the main thread regarding the conflict. 

[DAP]

Pretends to be shocked X 1000

[Jjang]

daily reminder that in order for apartheid Israel to stop existing all it takes is for Palestinians to get their basic human rights because they’re already the majority on the land. 

 

That’s why they segregated Palestinians into 3 different societies (West Bank, 48 borders and Gaza) under three different sets of rights. 

 

no need for war. no need for “genocidal” demands. Just give them their basic rights and poof just like that Israel is over because Jews are no longer the majority. 

 

Palestinians deserve to live in Palestine. Not Egypt. Not Jordan. Palestine. 

 

Zionists will try to the best of their abilities to disguise the fact that they oppose Palestinian rights to be granted (they will tell taunt you with Israel’s imaginary “right to exist) 

 

humans have rights and those rights come before anything and everything including the right of a genocidal state to exist. 

 

good day <3 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[Mr. Mendes]

12 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

You truly Isreal's little power bottom aren't you my lord, you and that Delerious clown are relentless in your refusal to break out of your little propaganda bubbles

[State of Grace.]

 

*Since we're not catching Hamas, we'll make it look like we are. Our gullible supporters will definitely believe it! 🤪*

Edited December 16, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Wolf Alice]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/16/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-hamas-hostages-idf-protest-tel-aviv-news-palestine-us-biden-ceasefire-un

 

Information coming out about how IDF is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza including the Israeli hostages taken on October 7. 

[Virgos Groove]

So they're just straight up ADMITTING they kill civilians even after they surrendered (including their own), but some of you losers will still argue, under a false pretense of "neutrality", that a state like this deserves to exist. Crazy.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Virgos Groove

[State of Grace.]

Terrorists.