news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Mean Trees]

43 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

Did you read the article? The Dutch, German and Danish authorities did not travel to Gaza to arrest them, it happened in Europe

I think that is the point they were making. 

[Virgos Groove]

Source: trust me bro

[family.guy123]

58 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Weird. So Europe was able to foil a plot from a group hundreds or thousands of miles away, but Israel, which is right next door to Hamas and has full control over their land, could not? Make it make sense.

You should be a lawyer 

[State of Grace.]

10 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

In fairness, since the conflict began three young Israeli students were shot in Vermont and a 6 year old Israeli-American boy was stabbed to death by a pro-Palestine man. Terrorism from the pro-Palestine side is rising across the world…
 

Oh wait… It was Zionists who murdered the 6 year old Palestinian-American boy and shot three young Palestinian students. Does that still count as terrorism if a white person did it? #ZionismIsISIS? 

You won't catch anyone calling those Zionists terrorists

 

People (even on this site) were even making up excuses for the man that attacked the students because he was apparently "mentally ill".

Edited December 15, 2023 by State of Grace.

[ZIVERT]

The rushing in here to downplay and deflect  never change ATRL

[pisuke]

The fact that my taxes are paying for the disgusting German media trying to whitewash a genocide makes me sick. 

[Luckitty]

I don't believe it, why would Hamas do a terrorist attack in Europe when they have not done it before? 
 

Hamas' goal is the liberation of Palestine, bombing Europe is pointless for them, they barely have any resources to defend themselves why would they bomb an unrelated place?

 

i think they're either lying in an attempt to make Palestine lose support or they arrested some "terrorists" and just called them Hamas even if they were not

[Almighty Gaga]

Well if Israel's puppets are saying it then it must be true 

[Both Sides Now]

1 minute ago, Luckitty said:

I don't believe it, why would Hamas do a terrorist attack in Europe when they have not done it before? 
 

Hamas' goal is the liberation of Palestine, bombing Europe is pointless for them, they barely have any resources to defend themselves why would they bomb an unrelated place?

 

i think they're either lying in an attempt to make Palestine lose support or they arrested some "terrorists" and just called them Hamas even if they were not

How dare you use logic and reasoning

[DAP]

No one can even leave Gaza without encountering blockades with guards that will summarily kill them, but four little angry terrorists just so happened to not only breach all IDF security, but be placed in cities hundreds of miles from each other with careful coordination? I guess. 

[Freakshowvato]

Why would they even want to attack Jews in Europe? They attacked/kidnapped Israelis because they want to resist the occupation and stealing of their land. So idk what this media report is but it seems fishy

 

Obvi attacking civilians is not ideal, BUT Israel is more guilty of killing thousands of Palestinians in literally 3 months than the TOTAL AMOUNT OF ISRAELIS KILLED BY HAMAS SINCE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

 

[Freakshowvato]

Also Hamas is not in Lebanon. I do not trust Western media, let alone German media.

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Freakshowvato said:

Obvi attacking civilians is not ideal, BUT Israel is more guilty of killing thousands of Palestinians in literally 3 months than the TOTAL AMOUNT OF ISRAELIS KILLED BY HAMAS SINCE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

 

louder for the people in the nosebleeds. 

[Communion]

17 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

The rushing in here to downplay 

Almost like a user famously known on ATRL as a virulent racist is going to get called out for *inflating* news and pushing hyperbole. 

 

No one thinks people won't be pushed by either resentment or hatred to commit extreme acts. Zionists themselves have already committed multiple acts of terrorism in the US post-10/07 with multiple Palestinian-Americans dead as a result, including children. 

 

99% of the replies are mocking the framing by Western media and OP of some mass syndicate of terror despite all countries then being like "but we don't know if they're connected lol, oops!".

 

The irony being that such shows why Israel's claims to want to destroy Hamas are not real and will never be real. You cannot destroy what amounts to a sentiment. 

 

Nearly every instance of terrorism in Europe in the last 5 years has been lone wolf radicalization. No mass terrorism network. No huge system of widespread deliberately planned violence. Just random young men watching videos online of right-wing figures exploiting failed Western foreign policy and deciding to run into a mall or a courtyard with a machete. 

 

All terrorism is bad, whether it be something like a 19-year-old Iranian Frenchman wanting to swing a machete through an outside shopping mall in Paris or a 57-year-old Israeli American running into the apartment of his Palestinian tenants and killing a 7 year old child and his mother with a chef's knife. 

 

But based on OP's views, we should similarly start attributing deaths like of this child as activities of the IDF:

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Communion

[pisuke]

Its so obvious they are desperately trying to change the public opinion towards the terrorist and genocidal state of IsraHell. 

 

I even see them pulling an inside job/false flag attack in Europe and blame it on Hamas. It is scary because they have no issue massacring 20,000 people in a month, they can be capable of that and more.

[Dula Peep]

43 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

The desperation to paint Hamas as an ISIS/Al Qaeda-esque group instead of a justified rebellion against an oppressor is so transparent. They're gonna need new propaganda lessons cause this is so...00s/10s.

wtf is going on here...  yikes

[Luckitty]

2 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said:

Why would they even want to attack Jews in Europe? They attacked/kidnapped Israelis because they want to resist the occupation and stealing of their land. So idk what this media report is but it seems fishy

 

Obvi attacking civilians is not ideal, BUT Israel is more guilty of killing thousands of Palestinians in literally 3 months than the TOTAL AMOUNT OF ISRAELIS KILLED BY HAMAS SINCE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

 

Also Hamas have said that they don't have a problem with Jews, their problem is with Israel

 

so why would they attack some jews in Europe?

 

from their charter:

"16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity."

[Jjang]

12 hours ago, OneInAMillion1 said:

“Open air prison” with hotels, beach clubs, restaurants… make it make sense?

and a very big wall that segregates them from the remaining 90% of their homeland 

[Luckitty]

2 minutes ago, pisuke said:

Its so obvious they are desperately trying to change the public opinion towards the terrorist and genocidal state of IsraHell. 

 

I even see them pulling an inside job/false flag attack in Europe and blame it on Hamas. It is scary because they have no issue massacring 20,000 people in a month, they can be capable of that and more.

I wouldn't be surprised at all, israel has a long history with doing false attacks in other countries and blaming them on muslims/arabs

[Jjang]

12 hours ago, OneInAMillion1 said:

Gross ?

 

The way Hamas committed war crimes on October 7 that’s animal behavior and I understand all of y’all supporting that -  raping children and women? Killing babies, taking hostages ?

 

You fully and actively support the ongoing deliberate murder of 10,000+ children and the wounding of 30,000+ more children in two months. That's what we're all focused on here. Explain yourself. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[ClashAndBurn]

13 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

I don't believe it, why would Hamas do a terrorist attack in Europe when they have not done it before? 
 

Hamas' goal is the liberation of Palestine, bombing Europe is pointless for them, they barely have any resources to defend themselves why would they bomb an unrelated place?

 

i think they're either lying in an attempt to make Palestine lose support or they arrested some "terrorists" and just called them Hamas even if they were not

Don't you know? Every man, woman, and child that doesn't like Bibi Netanyahu's taint is "Khamas" or "Khamas" in training! The IDF said so, after all

[Dula Peep]

4 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

Also Hamas have said that they don't have a problem with Jews, their problem is with Israel

...Which is why they murdered, raped, beheaded, burned alive, blew up with grenades, hundreds of random victims in a huge mile radius, many of which were not Jewish or Israeli (because how would they possibly know who is who?) ....  

[Uncatena]

13 hours ago, OneInAMillion1 said:

“Open air prison” with hotels, beach clubs, restaurants… make it make sense?

 

Since you’re a member of this forum I assume you’re gay, you know they would shot you dead the minute you walk into Gaza right ? And you’re still supporting animals ? Because you think it’s cool to be “woke” or you’re just hating Jews?

first of all, a country not having gay rights is NOT EVER an excuse for genocide.

 

second of all, how ******* terrifying is it when propaganda works like this? loudly and proudly calling people being ethnically cleansed "animals". seriously, take a look at yourself. you've detached yourself from reality to cope with the fact that you support a terrorist, genocidal, occupying, colonizing state and then call people criticizing that "antisemitic", which devalues the meaning of that word. I simply feel sorry for you and hope you're able to get out of this brainwashed mental state.

[pisuke]

7 minutes ago, Dula Peep said:

...Which is why they murdered, raped, beheaded, burned alive, blew up with grenades, hundreds of random victims in a huge mile radius, many of which were not Jewish or Israeli (because how would they possibly know who is who?) ....  

This is what Israel is doing, not Hamas. Clear example of PROJECTION. 

[State of Grace.]

16 minutes ago, Dula Peep said:

wtf is going on here...  yikes

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