news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Caribbean Boy]

Sure Jan 

[Sannie]

Weird. So Europe was able to foil a plot from a group hundreds or thousands of miles away, but Israel, which is right next door to Hamas and has full control over their land, could not? Make it make sense.

[Communion]

Would be a meaningful action if the nation of Germany didn't recently classify pro-Palestine protests as a form of anti-Jewish terrorism. Bit awkward that they're now arresting and shutting down Jewish anti-Zionist protestors. Seeing videos of progressive Jewish women manhandled by German police in the name of combating antisemitism is a bit jarring!

Edited December 15, 2023 by Communion

[Illuminati]

12 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Weird. So Europe was able to foil a plot from a group hundreds or thousands of miles away, but Israel, which is right next door to Hamas and has full control over their land, could not? Make it make sense.

Did you read the article? The Dutch, German and Danish authorities did not travel to Gaza to arrest them, it happened in Europe

[Zoomer]

As long as it’s not stated by Hamas through video, like they usually do. I’m not buying. I’ve lost total and complete trust in western media, miss me with that propaganda bs 

[Karla Cabello]

yeah right

[Jjang]

the intentional public fear mongering  

 

Now every attack in the West (fake or not lol) is suddenly gonna be associated with “Khamas” to support the Israeli propaganda that they’re a threat to Western civilization. 

 

I’m sure the ADL antisemitism tracker is gonna have a bunch of “Hamas supporters spotted in XYZ!” tracker statements just like when they classified the sentence “free Palestine” as antisemitism and used those statistics to back up the “500% rise in antisemitism in America!!!!” statement in 2021 when Sheikh Jarrah protests were happening. 

 

 

[State of Grace.]

Lmfao quelle surprise

 

The desperation to paint Hamas as an ISIS/Al Qaeda-esque group instead of a justified rebellion against an oppressor is so transparent. They're gonna need new propaganda lessons cause this is so...00s/10s.

Edited December 15, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Both Sides Now]

20 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Lmfao quelle surprise

 

The desperation to paint Hamas as an ISIS/Al Qaeda-esque group instead of a justified rebellion against an oppressor is so transparent. They're gonna need new propaganda lessons cause this is so...00s/10s.

In fairness, since the conflict began three young Israeli students were shot in Vermont and a 6 year old Israeli-American boy was stabbed to death by a pro-Palestine man. Terrorism from the pro-Palestine side is rising across the world…
 

Oh wait… It was Zionists who murdered the 6 year old Palestinian-American boy and shot three young Palestinian students. Does that still count as terrorism if a white person did it? #ZionismIsISIS? 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Both Sides Now

[VOSS]

This is what “Globalize the Intifada” means btw

[pisuke]

Nobody buys it.

[Mean Trees]

43 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

Did you read the article? The Dutch, German and Danish authorities did not travel to Gaza to arrest them, it happened in Europe

I think that is the point they were making. 

[Virgos Groove]

Source: trust me bro

[family.guy123]

58 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Weird. So Europe was able to foil a plot from a group hundreds or thousands of miles away, but Israel, which is right next door to Hamas and has full control over their land, could not? Make it make sense.

You should be a lawyer 

[State of Grace.]

10 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

In fairness, since the conflict began three young Israeli students were shot in Vermont and a 6 year old Israeli-American boy was stabbed to death by a pro-Palestine man. Terrorism from the pro-Palestine side is rising across the world…
 

Oh wait… It was Zionists who murdered the 6 year old Palestinian-American boy and shot three young Palestinian students. Does that still count as terrorism if a white person did it? #ZionismIsISIS? 

You won't catch anyone calling those Zionists terrorists

 

People (even on this site) were even making up excuses for the man that attacked the students because he was apparently "mentally ill".

Edited December 15, 2023 by State of Grace.

[ZIVERT]

The rushing in here to downplay and deflect  never change ATRL

[pisuke]

The fact that my taxes are paying for the disgusting German media trying to whitewash a genocide makes me sick. 

[Luckitty]

I don't believe it, why would Hamas do a terrorist attack in Europe when they have not done it before? 
 

Hamas' goal is the liberation of Palestine, bombing Europe is pointless for them, they barely have any resources to defend themselves why would they bomb an unrelated place?

 

i think they're either lying in an attempt to make Palestine lose support or they arrested some "terrorists" and just called them Hamas even if they were not

[Almighty Gaga]

Well if Israel's puppets are saying it then it must be true 

[Both Sides Now]

1 minute ago, Luckitty said:

I don't believe it, why would Hamas do a terrorist attack in Europe when they have not done it before? 
 

Hamas' goal is the liberation of Palestine, bombing Europe is pointless for them, they barely have any resources to defend themselves why would they bomb an unrelated place?

 

i think they're either lying in an attempt to make Palestine lose support or they arrested some "terrorists" and just called them Hamas even if they were not

How dare you use logic and reasoning

[DAP]

No one can even leave Gaza without encountering blockades with guards that will summarily kill them, but four little angry terrorists just so happened to not only breach all IDF security, but be placed in cities hundreds of miles from each other with careful coordination? I guess. 

[Freakshowvato]

Why would they even want to attack Jews in Europe? They attacked/kidnapped Israelis because they want to resist the occupation and stealing of their land. So idk what this media report is but it seems fishy

 

Obvi attacking civilians is not ideal, BUT Israel is more guilty of killing thousands of Palestinians in literally 3 months than the TOTAL AMOUNT OF ISRAELIS KILLED BY HAMAS SINCE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

 

[Freakshowvato]

Also Hamas is not in Lebanon. I do not trust Western media, let alone German media.

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Freakshowvato said:

Obvi attacking civilians is not ideal, BUT Israel is more guilty of killing thousands of Palestinians in literally 3 months than the TOTAL AMOUNT OF ISRAELIS KILLED BY HAMAS SINCE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

 

louder for the people in the nosebleeds. 

[Communion]

17 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

The rushing in here to downplay 

Almost like a user famously known on ATRL as a virulent racist is going to get called out for *inflating* news and pushing hyperbole. 

 

No one thinks people won't be pushed by either resentment or hatred to commit extreme acts. Zionists themselves have already committed multiple acts of terrorism in the US post-10/07 with multiple Palestinian-Americans dead as a result, including children. 

 

99% of the replies are mocking the framing by Western media and OP of some mass syndicate of terror despite all countries then being like "but we don't know if they're connected lol, oops!".

 

The irony being that such shows why Israel's claims to want to destroy Hamas are not real and will never be real. You cannot destroy what amounts to a sentiment. 

 

Nearly every instance of terrorism in Europe in the last 5 years has been lone wolf radicalization. No mass terrorism network. No huge system of widespread deliberately planned violence. Just random young men watching videos online of right-wing figures exploiting failed Western foreign policy and deciding to run into a mall or a courtyard with a machete. 

 

All terrorism is bad, whether it be something like a 19-year-old Iranian Frenchman wanting to swing a machete through an outside shopping mall in Paris or a 57-year-old Israeli American running into the apartment of his Palestinian tenants and killing a 7 year old child and his mother with a chef's knife. 

 

But based on OP's views, we should similarly start attributing deaths like of this child as activities of the IDF:

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Communion