GhostBox Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) On 12/8/2023 at 3:15 PM, ClashAndBurn said: It genuinely boggles my mind that a Beyoncé stan could ever be supportive of… …this. Expand How about these Tweets Edited December 9, 2023 by GhostBox 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 12:55 AM, GhostBox said: How about these Tweets Expand 100% irrelevant to what I was getting at. You just skipped over the fact that American cops are trained to kill black people in Israel completely. That said, Twitter posts shouldn't make you AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY specific and deliberate targets of an IDF airstrike. Absolutely monstrous and appalling for you to insinuate. Again, you can't claim to be calling out both sides when you routinely only have negative things to say about Palestinians and downvote anything negative about Israel. 1 3 1
Communion Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 12:55 AM, GhostBox said: How about these Tweets Expand There's something so dark-sided about you pretending to hate Republicans but then - because of your lack of knowledge as nothing but a Biden boot-licker - try and use Drew ******* Pavlou as a source despite him being a conservative Australian grifter no different from something like an Australian Nick Fuentes. That you're sat here trying to justify the literal assassination of a civilian - a literal professor of literature! - by the Israeli army is so ******* disgusting. 5 1
karron0624 Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) When you walk into a thread and see nonblack people on both sides use selective quotes to try to use black people to make their point, not realizing how terrible that comes off. All of you need to do better. Edited December 9, 2023 by karron0624
ClashAndBurn Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 2:48 AM, Communion said: There's something so dark-sided about you pretending to hate Republicans but then - because of your lack of knowledge as nothing but a Biden boot-licker - try and use Drew ******* Pavlou as a source despite him being a conservative Australian grifter no different from something like an Australian Nick Fuentes. That you're sat here trying to justify the literal assassination of a civilian - a literal professor of literature! - by the Israeli army is so ******* disgusting. Expand I like how he can be bothered to give you a Thumbs Down, but can’t respond to either of our replies to his sick attempt at a gotcha. One has to wonder if he’d be okay with, say, Mossad agents covertly entering the United States in order to assassinate Rashida Tlaib, Justin Amash, or any of the Palestinian students that have protested on college campuses. Something tells me the response would be “Well, maybe they shouldn’t have Tweeted mean things about an American ally 🤷” 3 1
Kassi Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 #EndCampusAntisemitism I still can’t believe they said calling on the genocide of Jews would be allowed depending on the “context”. It’s like a fever dream that it actually happened. Like, it’s insane to me. As a black person, I’m still trying to square how chilling it would be if it was posed as “genocide against black people” and the response was “it depends”. And that’s at 13% of the population… I can only imagine the psychological toll it would take to hear that as a minority that’s only 2% of the population. There’s something wrong with these people 1 7
welham Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 a single small illustration of the point I made earlier about adopting the position of “Bibi bad! No Bibi = peace + no genocide!!1!1!” is a load of bullshit
Harrier Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 5:26 AM, welham said: a single small illustration of the point I made earlier about adopting the position of “Bibi bad! No Bibi = peace + no genocide!!1!1!” is a load of bullshit Expand You are very keen to make the point that Israeli Jews are villainous - so what's your solution to that? Where are you going with this argument? I could collate random posts of any number of groups showing unhinged behaviour and disgusting calls to violence - especially during a period of conflict - but the question then becomes, why? What narrative are we trying to push? What are our political goals? I jumped to conclusions a few days ago on your argument because Jewish expulsion and/or violence seems to be the logical conclusion of a worldview that casts the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews as bloodthirsty, white, colonialist Zionists. But please - prove me wrong - if Israeli Jews are so far beyond reform that no corner of their politics is worth saving, what do you propose beyond those things? 1 3
ClashAndBurn Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) On 12/9/2023 at 4:53 AM, Kassi said: #EndCampusAntisemitism I still can’t believe they said calling on the genocide of Jews would be allowed depending on the “context”. It’s like a fever dream that it actually happened. Like, it’s insane to me. As a black person, I’m still trying to square how chilling it would be if it was posed as “genocide against black people” and the response was “it depends”. And that’s at 13% of the population… I can only imagine the psychological toll it would take to hear that as a minority that’s only 2% of the population. There’s something wrong with these people Expand Elise Stefanik was speaking in pure hypotheticals that never even once actually happened. Not one single example was shown or even discussed. And the "I <3 Hamas" stickers were produced and placed by Hillel students trying to make the Palestinian supporters look bad. Congratulations, you got fooled by yet another Conservative psyop. Institutional power is completely coalesced on making sure Israel and its supporters are comfortable and any rhetoric that hurts their feelings is silenced, even if it's constitutionally protected. The Supreme Court decided this in the Skokie case decades ago. If you don't think hate speech and calls for genocide should be protected by the First Amendment, then maybe you agree more with Trump (who wants to throw out the Constitution altogether) more than you're aware! Maybe the Democrats can amend the Constitution to eliminate the First Amendment so that they can also go full Kent State on protesters the way they clearly seem to want to. Meanwhile: If you call for the genocide of Palestinians, you'll probably be up for a gig as an MSNBC/CNN/Fox News contributor. That IS constitutionally-protected AND institutionally-sanctioned speech after all. Edited December 9, 2023 by ClashAndBurn
Jjang Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Good morning reminder that Israel is carrying out an indiscriminate genocide & Zionists here are doing everything in their capabilities to distract you from the fact that they support it. 1 4
Jjang Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 2:48 AM, Communion said: There's something so dark-sided about you pretending to hate Republicans but then - because of your lack of knowledge as nothing but a Biden boot-licker - try and use Drew ******* Pavlou as a source despite him being a conservative Australian grifter no different from something like an Australian Nick Fuentes. That you're sat here trying to justify the literal assassination of a civilian - a literal professor of literature! - by the Israeli army is so ******* disgusting. Expand we live amongst modern fascists. I guess if Nazi victims wrote in their diaries that they hate Germans, then they must be blown into pieces, no questions asked. 1
Letemtalk Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Have to agree with this one. Americans that support the attacks on Gaza are just the scum of the earth. Of course Americans have always been happy when bombs are falling on writers, artists, doctors, journalists, churches, mosques and children around the world. From Vietnam, Cambodia and dozens of countries since the end of World War II. Zionists: "But, but human shields". Israel would have bombed him in the school and Israeli and pro Israel Americans would have praised the killing of children. As it happened, there were children killed in the attack on his sister's apartment, but less than would have been killed at the school. 4 1
Letemtalk Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem calls for burying detained Palestinian civilians ALIVE.
Eat The Acid Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) I’ve been pushed the point of breaking. I want Israel to be deconstructed. Any country that provides a mechanism for brutal and shameless genocide should be deconstructed and re establish. Just as Germany was in 1945. I want to see Israel’s power taken from them. They use it with no regard for human rights or human life. We’re witnessing the most disgusting human rights violations this millennium right now and the US are funding and supporting it. Can the world not sanction the USA exactly like they do Russia etc.! The world needs to ACT. And NOW. Edited December 9, 2023 by Eat The Acid 1
Eat The Acid Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 5:51 AM, Harrier said: You are very keen to make the point that Israeli Jews are villainous - so what's your solution to that? Where are you going with this argument? I could collate random posts of any number of groups showing unhinged behaviour and disgusting calls to violence - especially during a period of conflict - but the question then becomes, why? What narrative are we trying to push? What are our political goals? I jumped to conclusions a few days ago on your argument because Jewish expulsion and/or violence seems to be the logical conclusion of a worldview that casts the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews as bloodthirsty, white, colonialist Zionists. But please - prove me wrong - if Israeli Jews are so far beyond reform that no corner of their politics is worth saving, what do you propose beyond those things? Expand An end to Israel. 1
Eat The Acid Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 10:44 AM, Letemtalk said: Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem calls for burying detained Palestinian civilians ALIVE. Expand **** Israel. **** America. America and Israel are the terrorists. They’re Nazi countries under the guise of “the good guys”. America is the worst country in the world. A **** stain of immorality and nationalistic narcissism. 2 1
Kassi Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 6:50 AM, ClashAndBurn said: If you don't think hate speech and calls for genocide should be protected by the First Amendment, then maybe you agree more with Trump (who wants to throw out the Constitution altogether) more than you're aware! Expand You’re overthinking it, ma. This was specifically about allowable campus rhetoric. Hypothetical or not, calling for things like the “genocide of Jews”, “enslavement of all black people”, or “r—- of all women” should easily violate the Student Code Of Conduct and be actionable against. Or does the left suddenly not believe in “safe spaces” when it comes to Jews? This ain’t about the First Amendment. Even YouTube’s Terms of Service don’t allow this ****. They ****** up and need to be FIRED.
Communion Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 3:57 PM, Kassi said: You’re overthinking it, ma. This was specifically about allowable campus rhetoric. Hypothetical or not, calling for things like the “genocide of Jews”, “enslavement of all black people”, or “r—- of all women” should easily violate the Student Code Of Conduct and be actionable against. Or does the left suddenly not believe in “safe spaces” when it comes to Jews? This ain’t about the First Amendment. Even YouTube’s Terms of Service don’t allow this ****. They ****** up and need to be FIRED. Expand Suggesting "From the river to the sea" amounts to "genocide all Jews" is no different than suggesting saying "Black Lives Matter" amounts to say "Kill White People," FYI! 1
Kassi Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 5:51 AM, Harrier said: You are very keen to make the point that Israeli Jews are villainous - so what's your solution to that? Where are you going with this argument? I could collate random posts of any number of groups showing unhinged behaviour and disgusting calls to violence - especially during a period of conflict - but the question then becomes, why? What narrative are we trying to push? What are our political goals? I jumped to conclusions a few days ago on your argument because Jewish expulsion and/or violence seems to be the logical conclusion of a worldview that casts the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews as bloodthirsty, white, colonialist Zionists. But please - prove me wrong - if Israeli Jews are so far beyond reform that no corner of their politics is worth saving, what do you propose beyond those things? Expand Right. It’s like posting a 4chan thread or posts from St***front and then using that brush to paint all Americans with. That’s something you do when you have a clear political objective in mind. This is what I’ve been trying to pin down. But I think it’s been answered in here before… On 12/6/2023 at 3:06 AM, Communion said: Zionists who will end up fleeing Palestine and whatever becomes of Israel because of the eventual demographic changes are not a people without a homeland for whom we should be guilted into feeling sympathy for; they're a settler fleeing a failed colony. Expand …I just wish they would say what they mean, so we could all move on. 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 3:57 PM, Kassi said: Or does the left suddenly not believe in “safe spaces” when it comes to Jews? Expand The "left" doesn't uniformly believe in safe spaces and coddling oversensitive children that scream about words being literal violence. That's definitely a center-right liberal belief, though, bb Youtube isn't exactly a bastion of free speech either. It bends to censor non-liberal beliefs CONSTANTLY, and even flags coverage of Donald Trump's election misinformation as... spreading misinformation and breaking terms of service. Google (and pretty much all of Silicon Valley) uniformly acts on the whims of the CIA, FBI, the EU and the IDF. Sure, the presidents of those universities can be fired if their Boards find their statements unacceptable. Maybe they should also change their codes of conduct and make protesting Israel illegal, since that's what liberals and conservatives seem to want the outcome to be.
Kassi Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 4:03 PM, Communion said: Suggesting "From the river to the sea" amounts to "genocide all Jews" is no different than suggesting saying "Black Lives Matter" amounts to say "Kill White People," FYI! Expand Cool. Thankfully, nothing of the former was asked. And had it been asked, would have been assessed on its own merits. What was explicitly asked was: “At Penn/MIT/Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate rules or code of conduct?” An easy YES.
Communion Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 4:21 PM, Kassi said: …I just wish they would say what they mean, so we could all move on. Expand The only one who needs to clarify what they mean seems to be you, sis! Are you actually saying you think - for instance - black South Africans not wanting to live as 2nd class citizens to a small racial minority under an apartheid system is akin to "White Genocide"? Because your rhetoric that ending israeli apartheid and occupation amounts to wanting to genocide all Jewish people is no different. By your logic, Boers are just "refugees and innocent migrants" too. 1
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