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15 minutes ago, Bhabylon said:

People of Gaza have literally been focused on not getting shot or killed by the IDF :rip: Even before the October 7 attack :rip:

How do you expect them to have a Pride parade under settler-colonialism and an apartheid system? Change is more likely to happen when they're able to live free and when the terrorist IDF leave them alone

 

 

This is the most delusional, absurd post I’ve probably seen regarding this topic yet. You guys don’t even hide your blatant antisemitism anymore. It’s like you’re proud of yourselves being bigots. You can debate the topic without being a complete psychopathic nut job and making out-of-pocket generalizations and assumptions. Pick up a book rather than watching Tik Toks. 

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3 minutes ago, Noosa said:

making out-of-pocket generalizations and assumptions

The irony being that the only one generalizing here is you, and @Bhabylon clearly was talking about the IDF specifically, who objectively get their jollies from treating Palestinians like target practice- something that American soldiers did in Iraq and Afghanistan as well mind you! And they're also right about this too: progress doesn't happen under occupation because they have to focus on not dying from gunshot wounds for smiling wrongly or for collecting rain water to drink.

 

Maybe get your hasbara talking points from somewhere other than the TikToks of Israelis who created that trend where they'd kidnap and torture Palestinians for clicks and views!

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The backtracking lmfao. 

This entire thread serving:

Angry Bugs Bunny GIF by MOODMAN
 

the 20 circle jerkers in this thread spewing blatant antisemitism for 275 pages straight. Y’all should go to therapy and try identify what deeprooted issue within you is causing you to hate a whole group of people as much and be so vocal about it but be radio silent regarding Asad just bombing a school in Syria or Pakistan expelling 1.6 MILLION Afghans. Radio silence. I’d love to challenge someone here to make a valid point regarding this issue without using terms they learned on Tik Tok within the last month:
 

- genocide

- apartheid 

- ethnic cleansing

 

GO!!!!!

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Oh the antisemitic card gain.....it's wild how the oppressive colonial Zionist state and its blind supporters manages to always make themselves the victims 

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8 minutes ago, Noosa said:

Asad just bombing a school in Syria

You're concerned with 2% of Syria's population being killed over the course of 10 years but not 1% of Gaza killed in 7 weeks?

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8 minutes ago, Noosa said:

I’d love to challenge someone here to make a valid point regarding this issue without using terms they learned on Tik Tok within the last month:
 

- genocide

- apartheid 

- ethnic cleansing

 

GO!!!!!

Discuss this war without using any descriptive terms of what is happening in said war, go! :isudumblmao:

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“TikTok this!!!! TikTok that” “talk about Gaza and Palestine without talking about what’s actually happening in Gaza and Palestine!” :zzz: no points have been made, just a lot of whiny, bigoted nonsense and rhetoric

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15 minutes ago, Noosa said:

The backtracking lmfao. 

This entire thread serving:

Angry Bugs Bunny GIF by MOODMAN
 

the 20 circle jerkers in this thread spewing blatant antisemitism for 275 pages straight. Y’all should go to therapy and try identify what deeprooted issue within you is causing you to hate a whole group of people as much and be so vocal about it but be radio silent regarding Asad just bombing a school in Syria or Pakistan expelling 1.6 MILLION Afghans. Radio silence. I’d love to challenge someone here to make a valid point regarding this issue without using terms they learned on Tik Tok within the last month:
 

- genocide

- apartheid 

- ethnic cleansing

 

GO!!!!!

Multiple members here have been discussing the humanitadian crisis in Palestine before tiktok even existed. Stop this nonsense. 

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1 hour ago, GhostBox said:

When it comes to the protest Its so true 💀


the video with the old woman handing out flyers is so cringy too

Why is it that you constantly find yourself boosting troll dupe accounts? lmfao

 

"I'm not a Zionist, I deplore violence on both sides I swear!"

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A new dupe joining Nov 24 and already spreading Zionist propaganda :rip:

 

The biggest kii is them calling me dumb in the Dua Lipa/IDF thread and then quickly deleting the post skslsl. Ok sis come say it to me with your main acc since you know what we've been posting throughout the entire 275 pages of this thread :dies: 

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Not the gay in Gaza discussion points again… 

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuYuxk/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQu29ue/
 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQujAhN/
 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQu2V4C/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuXWaP/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuUM4v/

 


Tik Tok (so terrify).

These aren’t “new” terms, arabs and Palestinians have been discussing this for 75 years. You just hate that now there’s a successful social media vehicle & platform to have themselves be heard & understood.
 

Just because you may be coming around to the horrific realisation of genocide being committed, it doesn’t mean everyone else has been ignorant. 

 

The Zionist playbook is no longer effective. And by that, I mean the literal Zionist playbooks, that Israel holds training seminars for & anyone can access online.

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuqxRo/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQumcqn/

 

 

 

 

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New dupe again, they are like maggots

 

:suburban:

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1 hour ago, FOCK said:

Not the gay in Gaza discussion points again… 

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuYuxk/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQu29ue/
 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQujAhN/
 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQu2V4C/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuXWaP/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuUM4v/

 


Tik Tok (so terrify).

These aren’t “new” terms, arabs and Palestinians have been discussing this for 75 years. You just hate that now there’s a successful social media vehicle & platform to have themselves be heard & understood.
 

Just because you may be coming around to the horrific realisation of genocide being committed, it doesn’t mean everyone else has been ignorant. 

 

The Zionist playbook is no longer effective. And by that, I mean the literal Zionist playbooks, that Israel holds training seminars for & anyone can access online.

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQuqxRo/

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNQumcqn/

 

 

 

 

They're so mad that TikTok has been more informative than 99% of the so-called "reputable news & media outlets" and exposing many of their decades-old lies :lmao: 

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Messy zionist girlies need to hang it up with the gay in Gaza posts 

How many times does the same argument need to be debunked before the message gets across

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7 hours ago, Noosa said:

Source: “trust me.”
Doesn’t change the fact Israel holds the biggest gay pride in the world annually while the other c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶y̶ state we’re discussing beheads and executes said gays and has a +99% disapproval rate regarding homosexuality. Not everything needs to be argued. Just say you’re a bigoted antisemite and go, lol. 

so all homophobic countries should live under a genocidal military occupation incl. the gay communities among them? Not all oppressions need to be justified. Just say you’re a bigoted anti-Palestinian and go, lol! 

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14 hours ago, ZIVERT said:

If denying Ukraine’s right to defend ourselves from a war Russia chose to start because something something NATO and then back tracking after the Bucha Massacre was unveiled is “pro-Ukraine,” then I guess :skull:

 

But a genocide-denying, Stalin apologist cannot be pro-Ukraine out of principle. Ironically, the only time Communion has ever said anything in defense of Jewish people was to push the Russian fascist conspiracy theory that Ukrainians are Nazis.

jeez, not again. Since it's ATRL the #1 pop forum on the interweb, let me leave you with this pop gem

 

 

Same arguments all the time that have been responded to ad nauseum. 

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Not sure making the newest addition to the Zionist-curated list of "evil, dirty Jew haters" be *checks notes* Michelle Obama is going to win Israel over any American sympathies!

 

Despite what some ~center-right~ users want to tell you, the idea that being pro-Israel is some norm amongst progressive people is a lie. That the only echo chamber is Western liberals who have decided their geopolitical privilege is worth tens of thousands of dead Palestinians, and it just takes poking one's head out and digging deep to see just how much supporting Israel overlaps with nearly every far-right doctrine of belief.

 

So weird how the only Jewish theocracy in the world has such an adorning far-right support base!

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Communion said:

Not sure making the newest addition to the Zionist-curated list of "evil, dirty Jew haters" be *checks notes* Michelle Obama is going to win Israel over any American sympathies!

 

 

No different from some users here attacking PoCs for not toeing their "pragmatic" line of supporting the establishment that funds the genocide.

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1 hour ago, nooniebao said:

 

This interview with Jayapal with a literal Republican like Dana Bash and its reception amongst Resistance Twitter liberals proves to me that claims by users like @Harrier that all Western liberals need is just for leftists and progressives to condemn Hamas and they'll be open to discussions is nonsense.

 

In this clip, you see Jayapal literally accept the claim that Hamas went beyond war-time norms and explicitly used sexual violence as a weapon, yet her saying this is literally used against her and framed in nearly every liberal reaction as her saying the opposite. That she is framed as downplaying Israeli victims despite literally repeating Israel's claims that Hamas is an extraordinary evil that used rape as a weapon outside of usual norms, all because Bash asks her why she hasn't let such claims of sexual violence end her other defenses of non-Hamas Palestinians, to which Jayapal rejects the premise of and says it's ridiculous to claim she hasn't condemned Hamas.

 

Searching her name on Twitter literally shows mass delusion and outrage over.. comments that did not happen, over her literally calling for the eradication of Hamas and saying that they are a terrorist organization who must be condemned for using rape as a weapon!

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Communion said:

This interview with Jayapal with a literal Republican like Dana Bash and its reception amongst Resistance Twitter liberals proves to me that claims by users like @Harrier that all Western liberals need is just for leftists and progressives to condemn Hamas and they'll be open to discussions is nonsense.

 

In this clip, you see Jayapal literally accept the claim that Hamas went beyond war-time norms and explicitly used sexual violence as a weapon, yet her saying this is literally used against her and framed in nearly every liberal reaction as her saying the opposite. That she is framed as downplaying Israeli victims despite literally repeating Israel's claims that Hamas is an extraordinary evil that used rape as a weapon outside of usual norms, all because Bash asks her why she hasn't let such claims of sexual violence end her other defenses of non-Hamas Palestinians, to which Jayapal rejects the premise of and says it's ridiculous to claim she hasn't condemned Hamas.

 

 

Jayapal's arguments here are principled and straightforward. The fact that Dana Bash & Wasserman Shultz, both notorious hacks particularly the latter, interpret them in bad faith and attempt to use them against her does not mean that Jayapal should abandon her principles and go full Hamas apologia :rip:

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