State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kitty Kat said: What's the actual translation? She's describing how she went looking for her dead son and identified him. 0 mentions of Hamas. "He's been dead for 10 days. Every day I go to Netzarim and come back. The kids are scared [to go], and in the end, I didn't care for my own safety anymore. I went in and the Jews came down [from the tanks]. I didn't care if I would die, no problem. I went inside, looked around, and found my son His belt, I knew him from his belt, he was wearing a bridle belt, and his phone" *The journalist asks her about his name and age* "Ibrahim Saeed Al Shafi, 30 years old, married twice, and father of 5" *He then asks her about what she saw there* "I found the Jews when I went there. There were corpses before I got there but no one went looking for them" The fact that it was also posted by their embassy in the US is crazy. It wasn't just a mistranslation of a word or two but straight-up manipulation. They're trying to radicalize as many people as possible with outright fake subtitles and fabricated narratives. And when they get exposed for it, it's suddenly "this post has been deleted". Even the reel that was posted here has been deleted. Edited November 12, 2023 by State of Grace. 2
anti-bitch Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Communion said: What values does Brazil lack that the West has? I think their entire point is that Western is meant to be some claim of values or world orientation yet many clearly find resolve in it just being the capitalist imperial core of the world, built upon concepts like whiteness, nation states, etc. to further the goals of mass extraction and harvesting of wealth from the Global South to the West. See: European troglodytes only coming in here to say something like "US EUROPEAN NATIONS DON'T NEED TO HELP OUT ANYMORE! WE GOT ENOUGH OF THESE MONGR- ERM I MEAN IMMIGRANTS IN OUR NATIONS!! WHEN WILL THOSE ARAB NATIONS DO THEIR PART??" despite that Poland has like.. 0 non-white refugees and the vast majority of Syrian refugees - often the refugee crisis Europeans usually whine about - being in neighboring countries of Syria, thousands of miles away from the Eurozone. Wonder how quickly support for Israeli apartheid would fall if every Western nation who funds and does trade with Israel would have to take in a percentage of Palestinians equivalent to the arms and goods that they supply the Israeli occupation with. Well, you're right that Australia is considered western because it's current demographic make up comes from the European/British imperialist core. And I wasn't saying that western cultures are better than eastern cultures. I was just saying that how "west" in this case is not about the map, but rather about culture/demographics. And different countries have different values. Here having money is considered a value, so again, it's not somehow better than other value sets.
anti-bitch Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 3 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: Girl I am LATINA BORN AND BRED. I was born in Chile. Everyone here considers themselves "a western country." I literally said the colonies are considered western countries because they were colonized. What part of that did you not understand? The gag about Brazil being literally in the west was that, a gag. Though I would say that there is a clear cultural division between most countries in the West and most countries in the East, while the Global South definitely has some cultural differences to the rest of western countries, it has a lot more in common with them than with Asian countries, or African, or countries from the Middle East. Most of Brazil is of European descent. And what you think about Brazil's demographics doesn't really matter, because there's figures for what I said. 48% of the population of Brazil is white, 43% is mixed, 7.6% is black, 1% is Asian, 0.4% is Indigenous. The biggest demographic in Brazil is white. Fair enough, you taught me something. I elaborated on what I meant by "western" in the post above this. And I'm from Europe btw, so it's deffo interesting to learn about South American opinion on this. Ofc every country can decide for themselves that who they wanna associate with. And correct me if I'm wrong, but at first President Lula did not condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He condemned later after public pressure. But now he's been able to call out Israel for what they're doing in Gaza rather fast. What do you think explains the difference in response?
Embustera Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, FOCK said: A brand new book He needs to take acting lessons tho.
KUNTPERFECTA Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Not surprised unfortunately https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/arabic-annotated-copy-of-mein-kampf-found-among-possessions-of-terrorist-in-gaza-home/ 8 minutes ago, FOCK said: so the HamasISIS terrorists that shoot missiles and target Israeli citizens for almost 20 years now and break cease fires again and again and enter Israel to kill and murder children in their bed and kidnap babies aren’t Nazis to you? all of you need to seek some healing to your hate towards Israel. Start using love it’s much better believe me. 1 9
State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Being terrible at acting must be an Israeli/Zionist thing because it becomes clearer that Gal Gadot is the best actress Israel has to offer with each passing day 14
Aethereal Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 I've never met an Israeli (online commenter) outside of those protesters posted in Twitter videos that supports a ceasefire.
FlyPirate Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 The Times of Israel being the only source these 1d10ts can bring to the table seriously stop embarrassing yourself
BorderBoy Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, State of Grace. said: Being terrible at acting must be an Israeli/Zionist thing because it becomes clearer that Gal Gadot is the best actress Israel has to offer with each passing day Actually just when think she's the worst Zionist actress, they keep proving you wrong with how terrible they act 2
BorderBoy Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, FlyPirate said: The Times of Israel being the only source these 1d10ts can bring to the table Maybe the best they can find? Any Israeli source is indeed a source of embarrassment. They can no longer fool the world. 3
KUNTPERFECTA Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 More missiles were shot today to north Israel than the south and the center. Hizballah shot a missile at employees of Israel’s Electricity Company and they are severely injured. 2
KUNTPERFECTA Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 IDF soldiers give water to Gazans that ran away from HamasISIS fire trying to escape 1 4
KUNTPERFECTA Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: What’s wrong with you? people are dying. Stop laughing. That’s not funny. They also take care of them it’s so beautiful seeing Israeli soldiers take care of the Gazans. Look at that face of the woman in the end of the video, the trust in her eyes is unmatched. I’m proud of these actions the IDF and Israel take to help innocent people ❤️🇮🇱 Edited November 12, 2023 by KUNTPERFECTA 1 9
Embustera Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, KUNTPERFECTA said: IDF soldiers give water to Gazans that ran away from HamasISIS fire trying to escape The propaganda. I can’t.
State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 A literal minor. "Only Democracy in the Middle East" Tingz. 1
Chemist Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 The world finally seeing Israel for what it is
State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 My god..they're literally letting everyone there die slowly an entirely preventable death as the IOF bomb the hospital piece by piece
ZeroSuitBritney Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 L after L after L after L for user @KUNTPERFECTA Give it up bestie. 1
Shelter Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, Chemist said: The world finally seeing Israel for what it is Surprised the UK weren’t against.
Aethereal Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: My god..they're literally letting everyone there die slowly an entirely preventable death as the IOF bomb the hospital piece by piece The number of dead civilians killed by violent deaths (meaning directly such as airstrikes or shooting) in Iraq was around 130K. But the number of dead killed indirectly by the war through lack of food and health care etc. was over 500K. So we might expect a similar outcome in Gaza too. Not with exact number of course but many Gazans will die even if they don't get caught by bombs.
More Than A Melody Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 5 hours ago, anti-***** said: Fair enough, you taught me something. I elaborated on what I meant by "western" in the post above this. And I'm from Europe btw, so it's deffo interesting to learn about South American opinion on this. Ofc every country can decide for themselves that who they wanna associate with. And correct me if I'm wrong, but at first President Lula did not condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He condemned later after public pressure. But now he's been able to call out Israel for what they're doing in Gaza rather fast. What do you think explains the difference in response? I think it's tipping points. In general, I think Latin America is in a different position, diplomatically, than the other Western countries. We have less to lose. Plus, most of these countries have been affected by US intervention in the past, so it strikes a different chord. That said, I think not many people who aren't Latino know this, but most of our countries are strongly catholic, and that affects views on Israel. 48% of my country considers themselves catholic, 17% evangelical, 30% non religious. I went to catholic school, and for most of us, Israel is taught to be a holy land. It's even outright said or implied in your education, depending on how secular it is. I have watched people around me slowly unlearn that notion and slowly open their eyes to the Palestinian plight, but it's a very long process. Decades of indoctrination won't be undone in a couple of weeks. Young people are more likely to seek out information and learn, but the older generations are harder to crack. The media doesn't really help either. So, basically, Lula has a strong image with his people. Him saying what he said will likely make more people look up the conflict and agree with him than attack him for it (though the Bolsonaro bros will for sure use it as ammunition), so he was able to voice his opinion rather fast. Most Latin American countries voted for a ceasefire in the UN, I think only Paraguay and Nicaragua didn't. When it comes to voicing support, Colombia was the first one, then Brazil, then Chile, then Bolivia, then Honduras, then Argentina. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
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