Kassi Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 The most nuanced take of the present issue I’ve read this far 9 2
Bears01 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 I was permabanned from r/worldnews because I said Israel and their government are essentially terrorists themselves. The neocons on there will stand for NO slander against precious Israel whatsoever
wastedpotential Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kassi said: The most nuanced take of the present issue I’ve read this far Thanks for sharing, this was a good read
ZIVERT Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kassi said: The most nuanced take of the present issue I’ve read this far I think he captures the sentiment well. But I would disagree about the British taking to the Zionist movement - there’s just as much evidence that the Brits actively worked against the Zionists. But he’s completely right about the conditions in Gaza.
jakeisphat Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Quote Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and head of the National Union party Benny Gantz have reached an agreement to form an emergency government on Wednesday as the war against Hamas enters its fifth day and a Gaza invasion looms. Gantz will join the Netanyahu-led government and be part of a war cabinet, a small forum of ministers tasked with shaping Israel’s strategy in the battle against Hamas, Israeli news outlets reported. Gantz, a former defense minister and military chief of staff, will take part in the war cabinet alongside Netanyahu and current Defense Minister Yoav Gallant. Former IDF Gen. Gadi Eisenkot and Minister for Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer will serve as observers in the war cabinet. The cabinet will last for the duration of the war, during which no legislation or non-Gaza government resolutions will be advanced in the Israeli Knesset, the statement said. Gantz has stressed that the priority now lies in Israel winning the war. Opposition head Yair Lapid has conditioned joining an emergency government on far-right ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich distancing themselves from handling any security issues. Yisrael Beitenu head Avigdor Liberman said he would join such a government if its stated goal were to eliminate Hamas. Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/10/israels-netanyahu-gantz-reach-deal-form-emergency-government#ixzz8FqSmWhRP
SeeingStars1515 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 11 hours ago, BlueTimberwolf said: And that's the crux of the issue. Even if the Palestinians were peaceful, Israel would have to still push them out since they believe they won't be safe unless the country is demographically majority Jewish. So what are the Palestinians supposed to do about that? Willfully leave? You understand why that is untenable and why Israel is being directly blamed for the conflict regardless of Hamas's actions. I agree with the Palestinian voices for a 2 state solution - and I do believe majority of Palestinians would co exist with Israel in a one state as well. But it would be constant terrorism for some time
FOCK Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Bears01 said: I was permabanned from r/worldnews because I said Israel and their government are essentially terrorists themselves. The neocons on there will stand for NO slander against precious Israel whatsoever It will not be acknowledged anywhere.
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, SeeingStars1515 said: I agree with the Palestinian voices for a 2 state solution - and I do believe majority of Palestinians would co exist with Israel in a one state as well. But it would be constant terrorism for some time I don't think 2 states solution is realistic at this point judging from how aggressive Israel is building the illegal settlement, this is not mutualism it's a parasitism until one side gets eradicated. Heck even one state solution is bad considering Israel is practicing apartheid system which Jews have all the benefits meanwhile the rest especially Arabs are treated as 2nd class citizen
Headlock Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffy said: Shouldn’t civilians on both sides be brought to safety first? Why do they have to suffer in this war Only Israeli citizens’ lives matter, haven’t you heard?
Lovesong Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Northern Israel currently attacked, with paraglides and drones. Don’t be surprised when Israel reacts at this accordingly, as a existential threat.
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 It seems Hezbollah has 'officially' joined the war, things will get worse in upcoming days. I hope both Israelis and Palestinians can take shelter if not leave the war zone. Egypt should open that Rafah gate tho
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lovesong said: Northern Israel currently attacked, with paraglides and drones. Don’t be surprised when Israel reacts at this accordingly, as a existential threat. Are we surprise at this point? Even without provocation IDF has done this for decades.
illia Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 What would Hezbollah joining the war mean? Is it going to be bad or VERY bad and why?
Buffy Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Why don’t Israeli and Palestinians just leave their countries until the war is over? Aren’t they allowed to leave?
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffy said: Why don’t Israeli and Palestinians just leave their countries until the war is over? Aren’t they allowed to leave? People in Gaza are under total blockade, they can't freely leave unlike Israelis. This is why people called Gaza the biggest open-air prison in the world. Edited October 11, 2023 by Cloröx
Shelter Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffy said: Why don’t Israeli and Palestinians just leave their countries until the war is over? Aren’t they allowed to leave? They can’t get out.
ZIVERT Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Now Hezbollah is joining in, another terrorist organization. Praying for the innocent Israelis hiding in shelters right now, and for the Lebanese that suffer under Hezbollah’s illegal rule (and will suffer from Israel’s response) 1
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Now Hezbollah is joining in, another terrorist organization. Praying for the innocent Israelis hiding in shelters right now, and for the Lebanese that suffer under Hezbollah’s illegal rule (and will suffer from Israel’s response) What about Palestinians? 1 3
besaid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Big escalation in the conflict. No surprise though considering Hezbollah are as bad as ISIS and Hamas. 1
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cloröx said: People in Gaza are under total blockade, they can't freely leave unlike Israelis. This is why people called Gaza the biggest open-air prison in the world. How can the Israeli people leave freely? 1
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, JustLikeHoney said: How can the Israeli people leave freely? They are under blockade too?
Buffy Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cloröx said: People in Gaza are under total blockade, they can't freely leave unlike Israelis. This is why people called Gaza the biggest open-air prison in the world. 12 minutes ago, Shelter said: They can’t get out. What on earth
ZIVERT Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cloröx said: What about Palestinians? I have expressed over and over again sorrow and horror for their situation. I’m in regular contact with my Palestinian friends. What have you done to support a Palestinian today?
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Cloröx said: They are under blockade too? Please explain exactly how they can leave. Stop answering a question with a question.
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