Cloröx Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Well most people here defend a bunch of islamic terrorists using the cause of palestinians for their bigger jihad cause and war against humanity. It's not like that sounds better. Or they defend the right to destroy a nation too. Jewish are a population has been abused killed and tortured for centuries in history both from christians and islamic but seems you don't care about their rights to find a place where they can live in peace. The governement of Israel Is praticing crimes and the post 1967 occupations of Palestinians territories should be illegal and the territories should be back to palestinians. The only solution Is a two state thing in respect of post war agreements. This Is where most of the populations and intellectuals from both sides are. But sadly religious fanatism in both sides seems to Always prevail. We all should just believe in peace and both state can exist in peace. And asking the world Nations can work on that, not on destroying One of hem . The actual israeli governement is criminal and Hamas i terrorist organization that use the palestinian cause for the jihad cause and to create tactics to always create tension in the aerea, between the palestinian population to destroy any possibilities of trusting between the 2 populations. Who ever talks only about western propaganda and not of jihadist propaganda and how It used their own populations It's sick and hates these population too. Cause this Will never be a way can give them peace and stability. Duh you can't live in peace if you keep oppressing people and expect no retaliation?
Gov Hooka Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, CroNich said: Girl, Jewish people can, and do live basically with no problem. It becomes a issue when they start literally kicking families out of their homes they’ve lived in for generations, threatening and committing violent acts, terrorising and murdering civilians and creating a literal apartheid, stripping a nation of people their basic human rights. I don’t know a single Jewish person irl who is pro-Israel, so stop trying to lump in a whole religion to deflect from what even you know has and is continuing to happen in Palestine. Imma keep it cute but a majority of the American jewish community is most definitely genocidal and fully supporting Israel’s disgusting actions right now. It’s a vocal minority of progressive Jews out there (several of whom at best are liberal anti-zionists meaning they only want a ceasefire but not Palestinian liberation and return of land) who are standing against this which is something 2
Nicholai Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Jewish are a population has been abused killed and tortured for centuries in history both from christians and islamic but seems you don't care about their rights to find a place where they can live in peace. Doesn't jewish people live peacefully in the rest of the world (with a few exceptions)? I am from Argentina and the jewish community is big and live here without any problem. I don't really understand why they need to take others people's land 1
Aethereal Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) The biggest massacre of the Jews before the Holocaust was also done by the Germans. Why doesn't Germany give a part of their own country to Jews like Bavaria? This is a not a rhetorical question. Edited October 18, 2023 by Aristotle
Carter Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Cloröx said: Duh you can't live in peace if you keep oppressing people and expect no retaliation? i’m allowed to come dehumanize you, steal your land, oppress you and on top of that wants to kill all of you. but your not allowed to resist. gods forbid. 1
Gaia Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Gov Hooka said: Imma keep it cute but a majority of the American jewish community is most definitely genocidal and fully supporting Israel’s disgusting actions right now. What is this based on?
CroNich Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nicholai said: Doesn't jewish people live peacefully in the rest of the world (with a few exceptions)? I am from Argentina and the jewish community is big and live here without any problem. I don't really understand why they need to take others people's land The Jewish population makes up the majority of the 1% where I am
More Than A Melody Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Cloröx said: I notice that most Zionist supporters who come into this thread, passively/aggressively defending Israel are Britney, Gaga and Taylor fans. You guys truly can't beat the allegation huh? As Swifties myself, I'm so disappointed with certain people from the fanbase. I respect different opinion however when you clear justify the wrongdoing or in pure denial despite the sheer amount of evidences it makes me frustrated I think that's because Gaga Britney and Taylor have by far the most amount of supporters on ATRL, so it's only logical that some of them are going to be... you choose the adjective for those zionists. I don't think it reflects on the artists, just on the sample size of people who manage to be online, see everything in context, and still be horrible people. Britney Gaga and Taylor have all been silent on this whole thing, which imo is the second best thing they could do after being outspoken like Kehlani, and since they're not going to pull a Kehlani, quiet is better than wishy washy. 1
Kassi Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nicholai said: Doesn't jewish people live peacefully in the rest of the world (with a few exceptions)? I am from Argentina and the jewish community is big and live here without any problem. I don't really understand why they need to take others people's land Question, did they buy the land they live on from someone in Argentina? Why is that not considered an invasion? 1 1
Both Sides Now Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Reddit is the place to be if you want to keep up to date with the latest Zionist propaganda. Nearly every news subreddit is astroturfed. Current lines: 1. The bomb didn’t hit the hospital 2. The death count is exaggerated 3. The bomb was a misfire by Jihad and/or Hamas The fact that they are peddling these three together is kind of telling. Why are you downplaying the severity of the disaster if Jihad did it?? 1
Kassi Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Also it was totally Hamas rockets that leveled that hospital parking lot. Doesn’t make Israel’s borderline genocidal campaign right. But it does speak to the danger Hamas possesses to its own people and Israelis. If they’re willing to launch misconfigured rockets at a risk to their own citizens, they’ll stop at nothing to destroy Israel. 1 1 8
Brunette Ambition Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Nicholai said: Doesn't jewish people live peacefully in the rest of the world (with a few exceptions)? I am from Argentina and the jewish community is big and live here without any problem. I don't really understand why they need to take others people's land In Germany there are literally no-go zones for Jewish people (areas with a lot of muslim migrants :/) this week antisemites have been painting david stars on houses on jewish families, and yesterday people threw molotow cocktails at a synagogue. fortunately atrl told me jewish people aren't discriminated, though! 1 1 7
sunbathinganimal Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said: Reddit is the place to be if you want to keep up to date with the latest Zionist propaganda. Nearly every news subreddit is astroturfed. Current lines: 1. The bomb didn’t hit the hospital 2. The death count is exaggerated 3. The bomb was a misfire by Jihad and/or Hamas The fact that they are peddling these three together is kind of telling. Why are you downplaying the severity of the disaster if Jihad did it?? I stopped following the r/worldnews live thread because the astroturfing was just too much 2
Nicholai Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kassi said: Question, did they buy the land they live on from someone in Argentina? Why is that not considered an invasion? They live as any other argentinian citizen under argentinian law surrounded by people from other religions
Brunette Ambition Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Kassi said: Also it was totally Hamas rockets that leveled that hospital parking lot. Doesn’t make Israel’s borderline genocidal campaign right. But it does speak to the danger Hamas possesses to its own people and Israelis. If they’re willing to launch misconfigured rockets at a risk to their own citizens, they’ll stop at nothing to destroy Israel. saying that will get you a warning point for "disinformation" in this hotbed of a thread of conspiracies, nonetheless. OT: Israel bad 5
Cloröx Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: I think that's because Gaga Britney and Taylor have by far the most amount of supporters on ATRL, so it's only logical that some of them are going to be... you choose the adjective for those zionists. I don't think it reflects on the artists, just on the sample size of people who manage to be online, see everything in context, and still be horrible people. Britney Gaga and Taylor have all been silent on this whole thing, which imo is the second best thing they could do after being outspoken like Kehlani, and since they're not going to pull a Kehlani, quiet is better than wishy washy. As Swiftie myself I'm tired of the stereotype however the pattern is very concerning although you are right that those three have biggest fanbase on ATRL but honestly I haven't encounter such member from Beyhive, Navy etc. Yup artists themselves have nothing to do with this, it's just the fanbase demographic itself. Anyway, I should stop bringing fan war into this thread because things can get real bad. 1
Cloröx Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kassi said: Also it was totally Hamas rockets that leveled that hospital parking lot. Doesn’t make Israel’s borderline genocidal campaign right. But it does speak to the danger Hamas possesses to its own people and Israelis. If they’re willing to launch misconfigured rockets at a risk to their own citizens, they’ll stop at nothing to destroy Israel. Hamas doesn't possess such tech. It's JDAM, it can cause huge explosion without reaching the ground and creating big crater.
LadyFlopga Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) I have an "online" friend who is from Israel and currently at "war". Yesterday i've talked/messaged with him for a bit and i noticed that he would always talk about Gaza and not HAMAS. For example i've asked him if it was true that IDF bombed a hospital, and he replied no it was by Gaza Why the **** is he saying Gaza and not Hamas? That got me thinking do Israelis think that Hamas = Gaza? Also he told me about the 40 beheaded baby story which also got me thinking: Why are they being told lies and fake news? Or are they even the ones spreading those lies I was also DISGUSTED by him when he told me he is having "fun" Edited October 18, 2023 by LadyFlopga 1
GhostBox Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 So all the pictures and videos coming out are showing the damage to the hospital wasn’t as bad as it was first reported? 💀 I’m so lost. 3
LadyFlopga Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) douple post Edited October 18, 2023 by LadyFlopga
Monster Megamind Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kassi said: Also it was totally Hamas rockets that leveled that hospital parking lot. Doesn’t make Israel’s borderline genocidal campaign right. But it does speak to the danger Hamas possesses to its own people and Israelis. If they’re willing to launch misconfigured rockets at a risk to their own citizens, they’ll stop at nothing to destroy Israel. The bomb crater was not even big, cars were intact and parking lot tiles were intact. That's what aroused my suspicions... Edited October 18, 2023 by Monster Megamind 2 2
Khris Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 I think a lot of people have a hard time recognizing that Hamas =/= Palestinians Orthodox Jews =/= Israeli Zionists 3
family.guy123 Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, LadyFlopga said: I have an "online" friend who is from Israel and currently at "war". Yesterday i've talked/messaged with him for a bit and i noticed that he would always talk about Gaza and not HAMAS. For example i've asked him if it was true that IDF bombed a hospital, and he replied no it was by Gaza Why the **** is he saying Gaza and not Hamas? That got me thinking do Israelis think that Hamas = Gaza? Also he told me about the 40 beheaded baby story which also got me thinking: Why are they being told lies and fake news? So you hung up and came on Atrl to ask us? If you genuinely had these questions you could have just asked your friend.
Khris Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, LadyFlopga said: I have an "online" friend who is from Israel and currently at "war". Yesterday i've talked/messaged with him for a bit and i noticed that he would always talk about Gaza and not HAMAS. For example i've asked him if it was true that IDF bombed a hospital, and he replied no it was by Gaza Why the **** is he saying Gaza and not Hamas? That got me thinking do Israelis think that Hamas = Gaza? Also he told me about the 40 beheaded baby story which also got me thinking: Why are they being told lies and fake news? Or are they even the ones spreading those lies I was also DISGUSTED by him when he told me he is having "fun" Interview a former N*zi, or read some shared takes from them, and you will find that their experiences of brainwashing and desensitization are similar. Especially in a country like Israel, where service is required.
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