Aethereal Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 +1.6 million Palestinians are homeless now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jjang Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 never forgive never forget. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GraceRandolph Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The Biden administration has no plans to change its policy toward Israel after the ally's forces killed seven humanitarian aid workers. President Joe Biden was privately enraged by the deadly strike and in a public statement upbraided Israel for it, calling for "accountability" to those responsible and demanding more humanitarian assistance be allowed into Gaza. But two senior administration officials said that is as far as he and the White House will go for now. "That's all we have planned,” said one of the officials, who like others was granted anonymity to speak candidly about administration planning or internal reactions. It's the latest example of the United States criticizing Israel's conduct of the war against Hamas while remaining reluctant to use its leverage to force a change. Biden has stood with Israel as it aims for the military defeat of Hamas, resisting calls from progressives and pro-Palestinian voices to condition military aid or impose other restrictions. Such moves would break, rather than bend, the relationship with Israel, the administration argues. And they would end any sway the U.S. has with Israel over protecting civilians. That has caused fissures within the Biden administration. "It's just rinse and repeat with the Israelis. The American political system can't or won't draw a real line with them and that is regrettable,” said a senior U.S. official. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby confirmed Wednesday the U.S. is planning no imminent shift in its Israel approach. "We are still supporting their right to defend themselves and we're going to continue to do that. We're also going to see what the result of the investigation is,” he said on a call with reporters after prompting by POLITICO, adding "I'm not going to get ahead of decisions that haven't been made yet.” Senior Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have apologized for dropping bombs Monday night on the World Central Kitchen convoy. Its three vehicles were clearly marked with WCK's insignia and traveled along a protected route in central Gaza. And yet Israeli forces still hit the aid workers multiple times despite having been informed of the convoy's movements. The group has temporarily halted food deliveries after the strike. In his statement Tuesday night, Biden was stern. "Israel has not done enough to protect aid workers trying to deliver desperately needed help to civilians.” He added: "Incidents like yesterday's simply should not happen. Israel has also not done enough to protect civilians.” A second senior administration official expanded on Biden's message: "The strike on humanitarian aid — at a time when Israel had recently agreed to do more to get aid into northern Gaza — is deeply problematic.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The US would be supporting Isreal no matter who the president was. The problem is the whole government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 this could be posted in the Isreal/Palestine thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, GhostBox said: this could be posted in the Isreal/Palestine thread. I think the killing of the aid workers justifies its own thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: The US would be supporting Isreal no matter who the president was. The problem is the whole government. Right now it's Biden doing it, so he will be criticized accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 He is told what to do. Israel runs the US. They will never get in trouble. I'm glad the US is being exposed by all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Right now it's Biden doing it, so he will be criticized accordingly. Sure but it should not be a reason to NOT vote for him or vote for Trump. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 17 minutes ago, GhostBox said: this could be posted in the Isreal/Palestine thread. You all just want discussion on Biden's unforgivable stances to be quarantined and silenced 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Sure but it should not be a reason to NOT vote for him or vote for Trump. That's not for you to decide. A huge swath of the electorate HAS decided it's a reason to vote uncommitted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: That's not for you to decide. A huge swath of the electorate HAS decided it's a reason to vote uncommitted. What part of "THE WHOLE US GOVERNMENT IS PRO-ISREAL" do you (or the said voters) not get? It's totally moronic to have this be a reason for not to vote for Biden because the other options will be the same. Which is why I'm saying calling Biden out for this because of the election is stupid as hell. Calling him out simply for calling him is okay though. Edited April 3 by BrandNewBrandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Well how is Biden supposed to enact his policy of murdering children if he changes policy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatito Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 it's over, 2016 all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qurl Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 they don't care about any of us if that's their posture …. such a winning message for November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottageHore Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It's actually mesmerizing watching some of y'all justify voting for a man who's funding mass genocide of innocent children and people and aid workers. I understand the implications of a Trump presidency and why you'd vote for Biden to prevent another Trump term, sure, but the way y'all just blow over all this with absolutely no hesitation and just say "well, we still have to vote for him". Who's even talking about the election here? Biden is doing disgusting things. That's all. End of discussion. Sit with that and stop trying to alleviate your cognitive dissonance. You support a genocide funder. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, CottageHore said: It's actually mesmerizing watching some of y'all justify voting for a man who's funding mass genocide of innocent children and people and aid workers. No. But people are using this as an excuse or as validation that you should not vote for him in the coming election so it's about pointing out how the whole government is pro-Isreal and therefore using this as a reason to NOT vote for him but for Trump is just stupid. And ignorant. If you're against genocide don't vote at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It takes 30k deaths for Western media to publicly criticizing Israel but better late than never. We need more people to denounce their support for Israel. Let that terrorist state faces the consequences. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Who is this user mad at us for not voting for Biden because of his stance on Israel when they have misspelled Israel in their last four posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Richard Haass worked under HW Bush's State Department. He's calling for economic sanctions on Israel. And Elise Jordan was a Condoleezza Rice andvisor under Bush 43. She (correctly) described Biden's Israel policies as impotent. Joe Biden is to the right of staffers of both President Bushes on Israel Edited April 4 by ClashAndBurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottageHore Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said: No. But people are using this as an excuse or as validation that you should not vote for him in the coming election so it's about pointing out how the whole government is pro-Isreal and therefore using this as a reason to NOT vote for him but for Trump is just stupid. And ignorant. If you're against genocide don't vote at all. Who said anything about voting for Trump? No one is saying they'd do that. They're saying they'd vote for neither of them, whether that means voting third party or not voting at all. Some people put morality before a bipartisan system. Some people can't morally feel justified in voting for a man who is funding genocide, so they won't vote for either. And I'm not saying I'm one of those people. But if you vote for Biden, you are putting a stamp of approval on all these actions in the most literal way. I get why you wanna vote for Biden and I don't think you're bad for it. But I totally get why some people refuse to vote for Biden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Iran is up to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Why wouldn't they be? Israel just blew through diplomatic norms and also put a target on America's back due to our unconditional support of a genocide and their constant belligerence. Anything Iran does in response would be deserved at this point. Israel and America have acted with impunity for way too ******* long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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