genio Posted July 5 Posted July 5 10 hours ago, State of Grace. said: I still stand by "yes, and?" being the perfect lead single for this album. I think some of you sisters had unrealistic expectations for TBIM. It's been months since its release and it already had a moment on TikTok. The song was never gonna smash since it's a post-album single and those rarely become so big nowadays, unless they get a high profile remix. As much as I love the Brandy/Monica remix, I don't think it had more commercial appeal than the OG. Maybe if it was with Abel or something. The song is rising on radio and it should keep the album streams afloat until they push the "eternal sunshine" / "supernatural" or a new song from the deluxe. What they need to do is release more signed copies though. They literally sell out in a few mins so the demand is obviously there and they are missing out on more Top 10 weeks for the album. You're not wrong sis, but if Cruel Summer can take off years after release and go from a slow start to a huge smash, then maybe there's at least a tiny little chance for TBIM to become something similar. They could film a high budget video for the Brandy/Monica remix maybe or autoplay both versions a lot more. Maybe Ariana could also go on to some more late night shows and perform it there, idk, there's so many things she could do for the song to take off, but her ass is getting lazy again. 9 hours ago, Cesar said: Horrible Story & Supernatural would flop even with a remix sis Idk sis, they seem like the best single material from the album and maybe bye as a closer/5th single. Then again, I think it would be perfect if they just pushed a completely new song from the deluxe as the 4th single around September/October and close the album cycle by then since Wicked is coming in late November and she can focus on the movie and its promotion and if the 4th single or TBIM still are alive by then, they can just do their own thing while Ariana focuses on the movie and if they flop it doesn't even matter anymore by then.
Communion Posted July 5 Posted July 5 On 6/30/2024 at 4:55 PM, ariananext said: Seriously, I need a big tour from her so bad. The touring industry has grown exponentially since her last one, especially after Covid. I don't care about the venues but I want a big tour in terms of production, I feel like all her tours have been kinda mid and cheap looking, especially the SWT, I know it was put together quickly and everything but it had much more potential, I hope she delivers. I don't know if cheap is the right word. There's not much else other tours by other pop girls do that she somehow lacks. She always films segues / backdrops, has extensive staging elements and props, etc. The main thing that takes away from her staging when looking at them in a retrospect is that she has a very specific aesthetic and her go-to idea of playing with light is prominent in all three, let alone the usage of shadows to mask her / obscure her got even more prominent with each tour. Whenever she tours next, I think there'll be a hunger for a clean break and create a new kind of visual identity for her tours. I don't think people would want another tour of her shrouded in dark purple lighting. 1
genio Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) Also the album might not perform as good as Positions did, but it's still being very successful. It's already Ariana's second best performing album in weeks of charting here in Germany, only behind TU,N (31 weeks). The era had 2 number one hits, a decent performing third single, it's still in the Top 10 most streamed albums globally on Spotify 17 weeks after its release and there have been high profile remixes with Mariah and Brandy/Monica, also fantastic videos with TBIM being one of her best videos ever. I'm satisfied with the way the album performed commercially tbh. It is kind of somewhere in the middle between the 3 best performing ones (TUN, P & ME) and the 3 least ones (YT, DW & S - not saying those performed bad, they are just on the lower half compared to her complete discography). Edited July 5 by genio 1
State of Grace. Posted July 5 Posted July 5 21 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Her team should make Ponytail sit on her desk and sign copies 24/7 like what Taylor did with folklore Tea or just autopen like most artists do 3 minutes ago, genio said: You're not wrong sis, but if Cruel Summer can take off years after release and go from a slow start to a huge smash, then maybe there's at least a tiny little chance for TBIM to become something similar. They could film a high budget video for the Brandy/Monica remix maybe or autoplay both versions a lot more. Maybe Ariana could also go on to some more late night shows and perform it there, idk, there's so many things she could do for the song to take off, but her ass is getting lazy again. Cruel Summer is quite an anomaly though sis. The song was a big fan fave, went viral on TikTok, and became the opener / theme song of the biggest tour of all time. TBIM's only hope at becoming a huge smash is maybe getting a 2nd wind on TikTok combined with some autoplay. Ngl, she has already exceeded my expectations for this era promo wise, and I don't think another late night show performance would do anything. I obviously would love to get more content before we get closer to Wicked and she goes into Glinda mode for good. She should maybe record some TikToks with her gays & girls.
genio Posted July 5 Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Tea or just autopen like most artists do Cruel Summer is quite an anomaly though sis. The song was a big fan fave, went viral on TikTok, and became the opener / theme song of the biggest tour of all time. TBIM's only hope at becoming a huge smash is maybe getting a 2nd wind on TikTok combined with some autoplay. Ngl, she has already exceeded my expectations for this era promo wise, and I don't think another late night show performance would do anything. I obviously would love to get more content before we get closer to Wicked and she goes into Glinda mode for good. She should maybe record some TikToks with her gays & girls. I guess we have the pov of the ES era, just way better and with a video. I wonder how she's actually going to continue this era since it's almost time for the Wicked promo cycle now that I think about it. She said there's still a deluxe coming, right? How is she going to do more singles and videos in such a short span of time? I can't imagine her continuing the era when Wicked comes along (and hopefully she won't). As much as I like the album, I want her to wrap the era before Wicked tbh (and in case the 4th single does anything, it can just do its own thing with her focusing on the movie). It would be cooler if she just moved on to AG8 after the Wicked movie and not have us wait another decade for a new album.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted July 5 ATRL Moderator Posted July 5 17 hours ago, Truth Teller said: I do think it would be doing better if the video was a 3-minute cvntfest a la Focus. And yes it should have been the lead This. The video we got is nice but this song is BEGGING for choreo. It needs a TikTok challenge or something at least
State of Grace. Posted July 5 Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, genio said: I guess we have the pov of the ES era, just way better and with a video. I wonder how she's actually going to continue this era since it's almost time for the Wicked promo cycle now that I think about it. She said there's still a deluxe coming, right? How is she going to do more singles and videos in such a short span of time? I can't imagine her continuing the era when Wicked comes along (and hopefully she won't). As much as I like the album, I want her to wrap the era before Wicked tbh (and in case the 4th single does anything, it can just do its own thing with her focusing on the movie). It would be cooler if she just moved on to AG8 after the Wicked movie and not have us wait another decade for a new album. Yeah I also would prefer AG8 between the two Wicked films tbh, and she can tour both albums together. I still don't know how she'll manage promoting the deluxe and the film, but this is the first time I've seen her this passionate/excited about doing promo so I'll just trust the process. We should be thankful that the era didn't die in March. I'm praying the deluxe songs live up to the standard album's quality and they aren't just undercooked bops tbh. The album is her magnum opus and she better not ruin it. 1
State of Grace. Posted July 5 Posted July 5 When this classic finally gets released as a single from the deluxe album and it goes #1 for 15 weeks 2
genio Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) I just checked the album streams on the Spotify counter and intro having 250m streams is a bit shocking. I knew it went viral, but I didn't expect it to be this high. WCBF is also almost at 700m streams, it's going to be another billion milestone for her, potentially even this year. The worst song on the album (OT) having the lowest streams is only right. Edited July 5 by genio 5
Gerardo Posted July 6 Posted July 6 16 hours ago, State of Grace. said: When this classic finally gets released as a single from the deluxe album and it goes #1 for 15 weeks This is so Mariah coded, I want it so bad 1
Gerardo Posted July 6 Posted July 6 I hope she releases the deluxe with a new single on august or september, if the song is moderate big hit (the way, love me harder) she can wrap up the era with it, if not then she can release either bye or supernatural to end the era on December, doesn't matter if they flop and AG8 in summer 2025
State of Grace. Posted July 6 Posted July 6 23 minutes ago, Gerardo said: This is so Mariah coded, I want it so bad Saaame. I really believed it was going to be the title track dddd
Gerardo Posted July 6 Posted July 6 45 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Saaame. I really believed it was going to be the title track dddd Ntm on title track tho, that's top 10 on her discography Life, death, rewriteee
State of Grace. Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, Gerardo said: Ntm on title track tho, that's top 10 on her discography Life, death, rewriteee Oh absolutely. A literal masterpiece 1
genio Posted July 7 Posted July 7 US Spotify #77 (+15) We Can't Be Friends #200 (RE) The Boy Is Mine that's a cute update 5
Topaz Posted July 7 Posted July 7 I really dislike the ballads on the album compared to the other ballads she had. IWIHU and IFY are boring. Time to make Don't Wanna Break Up Again the next single. But it will probably be Bye or Eternal Sunshine. 1 2
bwhansen Posted July 7 Posted July 7 There was a leaked pic of her filming a MV inside a car so it's safe to say there's a Bye MV ready to go.
bwhansen Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Today's the 7/7, she's been pretty consistent at posting, teasing and announcing stuff on the 7s of the month, since november 27.
genio Posted July 7 Posted July 7 AHHH US Spotify #63 (+14) We Can't Be Friends #171 (+29) The Boy Is Mine TBIM was one of the biggest gainers on US Spotify yesterday (8th). Global Spotify #22 (+2) We Can't Be Friends #120 (+2) The Boy Is Mine little, but cute and stable gains on Spotify Global as well! 6
State of Grace. Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 4 months of her best album/era Her caption on IG really makes me think the era is far from being over. They should give Hot Ones this month but they're probably saving it for the deluxe promo? Edited July 7 by State of Grace.
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