celeb news "I don't know her." shade will now live forever with it's very own Wikipedia page.

[Raiden]

Jesus  — I thought it was a minor stub article but it's a multi paragraph essay with extensive resourcing including sections titled "background" and "analysis"

[GlamSlam]

9 hours ago, Touchdown said:

the cursing, the anger, the dismissal. Yes, let it out. Mariah's 20+ year shade still makin' 'em act up.

@HonourableVomit is right though. I mean, I like Mariah but let's be realistic, "I don't know her" has no real significant cultural impact outside of her fanbase.

Feel free to answer his question without the usual codswallop (if you can).

 

 

 

[Touchdown]

18 minutes ago, GlamSlam said:

@HonourableVomit is right though. I mean, I like Mariah but let's be realistic, "I don't know her" has no real significant cultural impact outside of her fanbase.

Feel free to answer his question without the usual codswallop (if you can).

 

 

 

Codswallop? ....Sorry I don't speak 1800's Madgeanese. Take it up with Wikipedia my love.

[GlamSlam]

8 hours ago, Touchdown said:

Codswallop? ....Sorry I don't speak 1800's Madgeanese. Take it up with Wikipedia my love.

Codswallop is slang for nonsense.

 

Let's face it, you clearly aren't equipped to answer our questions wisely, so there's still time to hide this silly thread, "Dahling".

[LikeATattoo]

The idea that “I don’t know her” isn’t iconic is asinine. It’s one of the GOAT memes???

[LatinFreak]

The fact that a 20+ year old meme is getting more attention than Jlo's "big comeback" single, tells us all we need to know... 

[The_Bling]

The tears, fumes and anger over this harmless thing 

[Titanbaddie]

At this point it's internet and pop history. 

 

deserves it's own wiki page. 

[suburbannature]

On 1/5/2024 at 8:19 PM, DanceAgain said:

Like mariahs catalogue did at Christmas time? 

 

Oh wait 

Nothing charted outside of her Christmas material... thought she was so relevant I would of thought her  "iconic discography" would of been checked out or saw a huge boost 

 

But it didn't did it

They didn't want it did they 

 

Get to ******* bed...  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/5/2024 at 7:55 PM, DanceAgain said:

Funny someone tried deleting all Jens achievements, sales and certifications of her Wiki 

 

 

What a absolute set of ******* Losers 

 

Didn't work though did it! 

 

Notice how the lambs get all Cunty after Christmas, funny Jens new singles out in a few days and her album end of month, They mad no one gonna be talking about there Fave till November

 

 

 

 

@Rocket

 

 

 

 

[Specter]

This thread started mildly amusing – if we're being generous – but has now crossed over to "is everyone okay? Should I call a specialist?" territory really quickly 

[La Reina]

I'm all for a good read/shade/drag but the way Lambs find it funny when Mariah does it yet have a problem when other artists do it back to her is beyond hypocritical

 

Nonetheless, this is funny

[Mezter]

This is great

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8 hours ago, La Reina said:

I'm all for a good read/shade/drag but the way Lambs find it funny when Mariah does it yet have a problem when other artists do it back to her is beyond hypocritical

 

Nonetheless, this is funny

"do it back" is what Mariah does. you mean when they start **** out of nowhere (Demi, Miley, Xtina, Madonna).

[Inverted]

I love J.Lo and even I think the quote and GIF are funny.   Maybe the GP isn't familiar with it, but it definitely has presence on the Internet.

 

 

On 1/5/2024 at 7:00 PM, Julia Fox said:

Girl not even her neighbors knew her like she obviously is always pressed when someone says they don’t know her. It doesn’t matter how “A list” she can be and all the money she has, her ego is bigger and she hates everyone that shade her. 

What are you talking about?  That wasn't her neighbor. He's an Indo-Guyanese man (one of my in laws btw) who bought her childhood house in the Bronx that she was visiting. That clip is from her own TV show that she was a producer so clearly she wasn't pressed since she allowed the clip to be included and they got him to sign off to allow clip on TV.

 

FYI - he does not follow American pop culture and does not know who Mariah is either.

 

On 1/5/2024 at 7:38 PM, LikeATattoo said:

It’s not one-sided. J.Lo has actually publicly shaded Mariah more than  the inverse.
 

If it were one-sided on Mariah’s end, Mariah would be justified because she was the one who was wronged lol. Having said that, I don’t even think that she cares anymore.

J.Lo has never publicly said anything. Both of the reactions you referenced (liking and unliking an IG post and supposedly not allowing her manager work with Mariah) are not public. Also, the latter occurred because Benny Medina has worked for Mariah and caused drama for J.Lo in the early 00s. Having a clause in his contract is for her protection. Her long-time assistant, Geetanjali Iyer, did the opposite leaving her to work for Mariah. It's not unreasonable to want your team to be loyal. You also mentioned words during the break of a Wendy interview, but no receipts. 

 

As for Mariah being justified, how? It's not Jennifer who selected the Firecracker sample and selected Ja Rule for a duet. Also, she even accused J.Lo of stealing her look (a non-white woman highlighting her hair blond is an original look that Mariah invented?!?!) as early as 2000. See the video below where she's caught trashing J.Lo before an interview.

 

 

On 1/5/2024 at 7:47 PM, LikeATattoo said:

Given J.Lo’s track record, do you really believe that she was wholly unaware of what Mottola was doing?

Of course. Even Cory Rooney confirmed that Jennifer barely contributed to the selection or production of the songs handed to her. In fact, she initially told him that she did not want to record some of the songs selected for her (like "Waiting for Tonight," which the original writers tried to shop to her team and she thought was cheesy). Do you really believe that J.Lo knew that Tommy went out of his way to clear a sample Mariah wanted? Do you really believe J.Lo was on those phone calls and even know that Firecracker was?

 

On 1/5/2024 at 10:22 PM, LikeATattoo said:

J.Lo fans being losers is a given, so there’s also that.

How exactly? J.Lo fans aren't the ones who make threads about Mariah or discuss her constantly. In fact, I've visited Beyond Beautiful (a J.Lo fan forum) and her official base on this website and I don't see Mariah mentioned much. On the other hand, you can be guaranteed to find Mariah stans to constantly discuss J.Lo and even make threads mocking her. Just look at the users in this thread and their post history.

 

On 1/6/2024 at 10:02 AM, LikeATattoo said:

The Wendy one actually did make the rounds when it happened, that’s why it’s so shocking that I can’t find a solid receipt. Every time that I search for it, it just comes up with the televised interview and not Wendy’s later comments about what was said during the commercial break.

 

It did happen, though. Wendy was the one who revealed it 

On 1/8/2024 at 11:13 AM, LikeATattoo said:

 Wendy is messier than a landfill, but she typically doesn’t lie so brazenly. Maybe during her radio days, but not when she had her show. Wendy is messy primarily because she puts people’s private business on front street, not because she fabricates things. What incentive would Wendy even have to lie on J.Lo like that, and why wasn’t a statement released debunking what Wendy told people if it wasn’t true?

 

5. That’s the kicker, though. Mariah has never “constantly” talked about J.Lo. She responds with short, curt answers when asked about the feud and that’s really as far as it goes.

If you can't find a receipt, how are we supposed to believe it actually happened? I watched that interview when it aired and was on ATRL then. No one ever posted a video clip of Wendy claiming that J.Lo egged her on to bash Mariah.  

 

Also, Mariah has constantly talked about J.Lo. Here's a clip from early 2000 (long before Tommy jacked Mariah's ideas and recycled them for J.Lo in 2001) where she accuses J.Lo of stealing her look. Very delusional. J.Lo highlighted her hair as early as 1997 long before gettng a recording contract. And yes, the video is 2000 because it references the Diddy arrest and the Loreal contract, which Mariah seems to be celebrating. Very petty:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQCpds0emQ

 

 

[LikeATattoo]

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

J.Lo has never publicly said anything. Both of the reactions you referenced (liking and unliking a IG post)

Social media (barring strict individual privacy settings) is inherently public, especially when one is a globally-known public figure.
 

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

You also mentioned words during the break of a Wendy interview, but no receipts.

But it did happen lol, and my not being able to immediately provide the receipt doesn’t ultimately matter because you would more than likely move the goalpost even if I were to find it.
 

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

As for Mariah being justified, how? It's not Jennifer who selected the Firecracker sample and selected Ja Rule for a duet.

No suggestion has been made here or elsewhere that Jen single-handedly engineered the situation. The beef appears to stem from her participation in it. The full extent of said participation can of course never be known.
 

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

 Do you really believe that J.Lo knew that Tommy went out of his way to clear a sample Mariah wanted? Do you really believe J.Lo was on those phone calls and even know that Firecracker was?

At the very least, it’s reasonable to believe that Jen knew that Tommy was attempting to weaponise her against Mariah. Jen was over 30 and had been in the entertainment industry for several years when this all took place; she wasn’t some wide-eyed novice who didn’t know that she was being used for a specific purpose lol.

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

How exactly? J.Lo fans aren't the ones who make threads about Mariah or discuss her constantly. In fact, I've visited Beyond Beautiful (a J.Lo fan forum) and her official base on this website and I don't see Mariah mentioned much. On the other hand, you can be guaranteed to find Mariah stans to constantly discuss J.Lo and even make threads mocking her.

This is a matter of personal anecdotes. I could say that I’ve seen Jen stans “constantly” attacking Mariah and that statement would be just as valid as the one above.
 

What seems more believable is that vast majority of fans on either side of this isle don’t particularly care about the other side but will engage in campy banter on the topic when the opportunity presents itself.
 

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

If you can't find a receipt, how are we supposed to believe it actually happened?

Well, you don’t have to believe it. It’d be a supremely pathetic thing for me to fabricate and numerous people here will look silly when a receipt finally is found and posted, but whatever.

 

 

1 hour ago, Inverted said:

Also, Mariah has constantly talked about J.Lo. Here's a clip from early 2000 (long before Tommy jacked Mariah's ideas and recycled them for J.Lo in 2001) where she accuses J.Lo of stealing her look. Very delusional. J.Lo highlighted her hair as early as 1997 long before gettng a recording contract. And yes, the video is 2000 because it references the Diddy arrest and the Loreal contract, which Mariah seems to be celebrating. Very petty:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQCpds0emQ

This isn’t proof of Mariah “constantly” talking crap about Jen lol. It just means that she’s done it before. Their relationship goes back a quarter-century and the number of times that Mariah has brought Jen up of her own accord can be counted on one hand.

Edited January 13 by LikeATattoo

[Touchdown]

2 minutes ago, LikeATattoo said:

 

 

At the very least, it’s reasonable to believe that Jen knew that Tommy was attempting to weaponise her against Mariah. Jen was over 30 and had been in the entertainment industry for several years when this all took place; she wasn’t some wide-eyed novice who didn’t know that she was being used for a specific purpose lol.

 

 

She definitely knew because don't forget in her video where they throw the butterfly keyring into the fire, a direct shot at Mariah

 

 

[Alongoria13]

if “touch some grass” was a thread

[Inverted]

36 minutes ago, LikeATattoo said:

Social media (barring strict individual privacy settings) is inherently public, especially when one is a globally-known public figure.
 

 

But it did happen lol, and my not being able to immediately provide the receipt doesn’t ultimately matter because you would more than likely move the goalpost even if I were to find it.
 

 

No suggestion has been made here or elsewhere that Jen single-handedly engineered the situation. The beef appears to stem from her participation in it. The full extent of said participation can of course never be known.
 

 

At the very least, it’s reasonable to believe that Jen knew that Tommy was attempting to weaponise her against Mariah. Jen was over 30 and had been in the entertainment industry for several years when this all took place; she wasn’t some wide-eyed novice who didn’t know that she was being used for a specific purpose lol.

 

This is a matter of personal anecdotes. I could say that I’ve seen Jen stans “constantly” attacking Mariah and that statement would be just as valid as the one above.
 

What seems more believable is that vast majority of fans on either side of this isle don’t particularly care about the other side but will engage in campy banter on the topic when the opportunity presents itself.
 

 

Well, you don’t have to believe it. It’d be a supremely pathetic thing for me to fabricate and numerous people here will look silly when a receipt finally is found and posted, but whatever.

 

 

This isn’t proof of Mariah “constantly” talking crap about Jen lol. It just means that she’s done it before. Their relationship goes back a quarter-century and the number of times that Mariah has brought Jen up of her own accord can be counted on one hand.

It's proof that Mariah has participated in this behavior as early as 2000 and she started behaving this way long before Tommy even explicitly recycled her ideas for J.Lo. It's also shows her recorded on video being petty about J.Lo (celebrating Loreal wanting to fire her because Diddy got arrested and dragged her into jail with her... wtf ) while the mild examples of Jennifer's behavior is from 15+ years later is in reaction to Mariah (and her fans) still perpetuating the issue for decades.

 

As for whether or not J.Lo knew, it's hardly far-fetched. Aside from the Cory Rooney example, even Christina Milian described her day meeting Jennifer during a recording session and, while the interaction was positive (she bought Milian coffee thinking she was an assistant), she said the song was already produced and J.Lo was clueless about who did what and where the song came from. Milian was the one who wrote the demo, Tommy and Cory liked it and asked for it to be for J.Lo's album, Milian agreed, the song was produced and Jennifer flew in on the final day to sing/talk over he verses over the song. If you're going to argue that J.Lo knew that the songs were bought and shopped from others, of course she did. Some were shopped to her face. That's how non-songwriter pop stars get songs. That ideas like the Firecracker sample and a Ja Rule back-and-forth duet were copied from Mariah? Doubt it.

 

Finally, let's not go down that road comparing which side attacks the other more. In my experience on this website, YouTube comments, Twitter, etc., I personally do not find J.Lo fans regularly making comments about Mariah unless it's in reaction to trolling from the other side and in spite for that, but that's purely anecdotal. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the Wendy commercial break incident (although I am shocked that no one saved it and I've never seen it myself).

 

 

31 minutes ago, Touchdown said:

She definitely knew because don't forget in her video where they throw the butterfly keyring into the fire, a direct shot at Mariah

 

 

Nice try. J.Lo is not the CGI animator for this video and butterfly themed jewelry, jeans and tops for girls were popular back then. In fact, even Pandora even sold a very popular butterfly charm back then.

 

[Touchdown]

Just now, Inverted said:

 

 

 

Nice try. J.Lo is not the CGI animator for this video and butterfly themed jewelry, jeans and tops for girls were popular back then. In fact, even Pandora even sold a very popular butterfly charm back then.

 

It's her video sweetie, she can approve or disapprove anything in it. She's able to take other peoples songs before they're released so I'm sure she's able to tell a director to take out the butterfly shot in her video.

[Touchdown]

30 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said:

if “touch some grass” was a thread

and yet... here you are with 15.4k posts.

Edited January 14 by Touchdown

[Inverted]

5 minutes ago, Touchdown said:

It's her video sweetie, she can approve or disapprove anything in it. She's able to take other peoples songs before they're released so I'm sure she's able to tell a director to take out the butterfly shot in her video.

And she's supposed to ask them remove the CGI animation of a butterfly keychain because delulu stans 20 years later connected that to Mariah? Just like how Mariah connected J.Lo's blonde highlights to herself? Stop. Just stop.  

 

Also, the constant drag towards J.Lo was that she was a manufactured "artist" and label puppet. Why would a label puppet have the authority to visit the CGI department during the post-production process and also "take other people's songs before they're released"? Yes, because J.Lo was so powerful that she had access to everyone's demos and tapped their phones to see what samples they were requesting. 

 

Embarrassing. Please stick to Q'anon subs on Reddit and LSA.

[Virtual_Insanity]

12 minutes ago, Touchdown said:

It's her video sweetie, she can approve or disapprove anything in it. She's able to take other peoples songs before they're released so I'm sure she's able to tell a director to take out the butterfly shot in her video.

But i thought JLO didn't even sing on her songs ( according to y'all) 

But on the other hand yall will claim she was masterminding samples and working on the creative direction of her videos LOL 

 

Pick a side. 

[Touchdown]

Just now, Inverted said:

And she's supposed to ask them remove the CGI animation of a butterfly keychain because delulu stans 20 years later connected that to Mariah? Just like how Mariah connected J.Lo's blonde highlights to herself? Stop. Just stop.  

 

Also, the constant drag towards J.Lo was that she was a manufactured "artist" and label puppet. Why would a label puppet have the authority to visit the CGI department during the post-production process and also "take other people's songs before they're released"? Yes, because J.Lo was so powerful that she had access to everyone's demos and tapped their phones to see what samples they were requesting. 

 

Embarrassing. Please stick to Q'anon subs on Reddit and LSA.

Mariah's butterfly theme was well known by that point. Sis you're the one that made her out to be a puppet by suggesting she had no control over her own video. If she's a real artist, the video is completely under her control. Just stop, you look silly.

[Touchdown]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

But i thought JLO didn't even sing on her songs ( according to y'all) 

But on the other hand yall will claim she was masterminding samples and working on the creative direction of her videos LOL 

 

Pick a side. 

was waiting for your eventual presence in this thread... I hope you enjoyed the Wiki article.

[suburbannature]