Bears01 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 The main thing that people fail to grasp that people have a problem with Demi not winning: once again, the academy is being nitpicky with the genre of the film, shunning her because she was *gasp* in a horror movie. They've done this before in the past in certain areas and time has came back to bite them in the ass (The Dark Knight not even getting nominated for Best Picture is a prime example)
Kylizzle Posted March 3 Posted March 3 The main takeaways are: -BP winner correlates to at least one acting win. In an acting race, the person in the bigger movie will win -PGA is still the most reliable indicator -The Globes are irrelevant for wins, but still matter for nominations -BAFTA acting tells us everything -Mikey Madison will have a long and exciting career. 5 2
Buffy Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) Does anyone else feel bad for the Alien Romulus visual effects team? I think they should've won the Oscar over Dune. I watched Alien Romulus 3 times. I saw Dune only once. Both are great movies but Romulus definitely had better visuals. They even brought back the original practical effects/animatronics team for the movie. I don't know. I feel pretty disappointed with Dune's win. I don't think they deserved it as much. Edited March 3 by Buffy
harwee Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Not sure if I should post it here, but here it goes... One of the things about Anora that resonated to voters is Sean Baker's message of independent filmmaking, and released in theaters. I think Brady Corbet (The Brutalist) had that opportunity to use that message during the GG but blew it. By the time he jumped back into that messaging at BAFTA, its already too late. Besides, it doesn't feel authentic, with his production still full of recognizable hollywood cast and crew. Campaigning isn't usually about which is best bec we know there's no such thing. Its about having the right message that voters will believe, and Sean Baker is the right messenger. The rise of independent filmmaking is very real, especially with studios embracing streaming, and the decline of boxoffice. Filmmakers realized they can't depend on studios as covid, so they're taking matter to their hands. Studios are verocious profiteers, they don't want $2M profit, they want $100M etc. Its not sustainable. Enter independent filmmakers who make movies for the love of, and $500k is profit is profit. And I think that's where theater should be going, or they will will continue to lose money. 3
EnigmaticAndroid Posted March 3 Posted March 3 34 minutes ago, Komet said: I got to say tho that TiMETHy Charlatan losing for that trite biopic bait role filled me with JOY! Not today Satan! The real win of the night! 1
Hector Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Snatched Greer Garson's record for her Best Actress win for Mrs. Miniver in 1943 by only 10 seconds with a speech almost as long as The Brutalist itself.
hausofdave Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Studios: "We want to cast based on how many Instagram followers they have!" Mikey: "I missed the part where that's my problem" 1 3
Green Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Brody's speech was awful Madison's speech was much better without the need to be that long and it actually said something. 1
Kylizzle Posted March 3 Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, hausofdave said: Studios: "We want to cast based on how many Instagram followers they have!" Mikey: "I missed the part where that's my problem" Bagged it with no social media presence to speak of. She needs to give some lessons to Sean on social media 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted March 3 ATRL Moderator Posted March 3 44 minutes ago, harwee said: I think Brady Corbet (The Brutalist) had that opportunity to use that message during the GG but blew it. The biggest shock of the season to me is that he couldn't capitalize to win Best Director. It was right there for him, but he didn't have Sean Baker's charisma. 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted March 3 ATRL Moderator Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, Green said: Brody's speech was awful Madison's speech was much better without the need to be that long and it actually said something. I liked the beginning and the end of his speech, but he got completely lost in the middle. This win clearly meant a lot to him and he had a lot he wanted to get off his chest. Given the likelihood of his win, he should have worked with someone to edit his speech so it could actually hang together as something coherent. It could have been powerful, but came off as indulgent instead. 1
Hector Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, supaspaz said: The biggest shock of the season to me is that he couldn't capitalize to win Best Director. It was right there for him, but he didn't have Sean Baker's charisma. This was basically a repeat of Inarritu for Birdman Vs. Linklater for Boyhood. DGA won over GG & BAFTA. Just with the addition of an acting win this time.
Donquizote Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Mikey really transformed into Ani in Anora because when you look at her personality in real life it seems like she's a very shy person. 2
Jglj Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I expected Anora to win, but I still find it to be an underwhelming pick, the movie is not bad, but definitely not spectacular to win Best Picture. Anyhow, congrats to them, I guess. 3
fridayteenage Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Hector said: This was basically a repeat of Inarritu for Birdman Vs. Linklater for Boyhood. DGA won over GG & BAFTA. Just with the addition of an acting win this time. though Anora has the higher Metascore than brutalist. and boyhood won LAFCA/NYFCC for picture, while anora/brutalist split those. I actually thought a big warning sign was when Corbet lost director at NY, LA, and NSFC when a lot of people were trying to declare him undeniable and personal campaigning is a lot less of a factor with them.
ctlp27 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, harwee said: Not sure if I should post it here, but here it goes... One of the things about Anora that resonated to voters is Sean Baker's message of independent filmmaking, and released in theaters. I think Brady Corbet (The Brutalist) had that opportunity to use that message during the GG but blew it. By the time he jumped back into that messaging at BAFTA, its already too late. Besides, it doesn't feel authentic, with his production still full of recognizable hollywood cast and crew. Campaigning isn't usually about which is best bec we know there's no such thing. Its about having the right message that voters will believe, and Sean Baker is the right messenger. The rise of independent filmmaking is very real, especially with studios embracing streaming, and the decline of boxoffice. Filmmakers realized they can't depend on studios as covid, so they're taking matter to their hands. Studios are verocious profiteers, they don't want $2M profit, they want $100M etc. Its not sustainable. Enter independent filmmakers who make movies for the love of, and $500k is profit is profit. And I think that's where theater should be going, or they will will continue to lose money. I agree to a certain degree. TB being a bigger success at the box office while being super long had the narrative. Anora kinda of underperform for me, with the critics, the comedy style, it's very easy to watch and convince people. It could have gone to 50 M$ despite being R. TB def got hurt I think with the AI discourse for which they lost a few days to respond properly on it (even tho it didn't seem to impact Brody to win). I feel bad for Corbet to go home empty handed because like Sean because at this level, and this budget, the director/writer is the pillar of his movies. 1
kimberly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 a lot of the speeches were kinda meh last night... highlights were No Other Land, Paul Tazewell (short and sweet), and like 1 of Sean Baker's 4 speeches. Kieran was being Kieran. oh and In the Shadow of the Cypress filmmakers, too. the whole visa thing is insane. 1
Donquizote Posted March 3 Posted March 3 The only actress who was robbed last night was Paloma Diamond
fridayteenage Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) lead actress nominees under 30 in recent years 24 - Mikey madison 23 - n/a 22 - n/a 21 - n/a 20 - n/a for those saying her youth was an overwhelming factor in her win. (lead actor actually had more with 2 - mescal/chalamet) s actress has 1 - bakalova s actor has 2 - Stanfield/smit-mcphee Edited March 3 by fridayteenage 2
Konril Posted March 3 Posted March 3 You know Sean Baker could've nabbed a 5th Oscar if Best Casting was introduced this year. 1
OnlyManInTheWorld Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Mickey Rourke Sylvester Stallone Glenn Close Demi Moore We never learn.
Dark Miracles Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Hollywood is so darksided omg, and even in plain sight. They really sat Demi in the front row and stuck Mikey in the 3rd row just to have the younger ingenue quite literally eclipse the veteran and waltz on stage for the win just like in the movie. They really played in Demi's face like that. Really too bad Demi fell at the final hurdle, though winning CC/GG/SAG for a body horror film is already very impressive. But you can tell she felt the message of this movie on a deeply personal level, and this must feel like her hopeful, barrier-breaking awards season run ends on such a sobering note. And again, **** BAFTA 7 1
Donquizote Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I don't know why people are acting Demi Moore losing that Oscar is bad for her considering that she's Hollywood royalty Demi will have more opportunities in the future with that Oscar nomination for another critically acclaimed movie. She is not a nobody in Hollywood. In fact she has lots of connections. Getting that Oscar nomination for the first time is just a cherry on the top. Mikey however will benefit more from exposure after winning that Oscar because she's a nobody in Hollywood. 2
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