celeb news Cher files for conservatorship of her son; UPDATE: Denied.

[ImpressMeMuch]

some of y'all took the wrong lesson from britney wtf 

[gatito]

i can fix him

[Moloko Plus]

Y’all clearly not reading the entire article. Reading comprehension in the pits

 

2 hours ago, Julia Fox said:

Not you all acting like she needs money  she’s just protecting her song to not waste the money she gives to him on drugs or other things that would damage his life. She’s thinking about his future. The real question is. If his son doesn’t get better when she dies. What will happen with all of her money and the c-ship? The part of this son is gonna go to who? 

Cher probably gonna leave everything to Chaz

[Pink Ranger]

Difference between Britney and Cher’s situation is that Cher is the one with the money already, what reasons would she have to put her son in a conservatorship when she’s probably supplied him money his whole life compared to Britney it’s the opposite given she was the money maker in the family and Jamie took advantage of that.

 

Cher most likely wants what’s best for her child and maybe this will help, who are we to judge without more information on the matter. 
 

 

[Leptine]

People shouldn't judge this situation with what happened to other celebrities just because there is the word 'conservatorship', in certain cases it is needed with no other solutions.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

3 hours ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

Yeah I’m sure fuckin Cher is after her drug addict son’s money 

 

[EtherealCat]

his ex wife claims cher kidnapped him last year

[poki]

He's a musician who's last album was in 2006 and he's not on Spotify. 

He's 47 and has no kids. 

This guy is a bum with no future who most likely lives off Cher's money. 

 

This is nowhere close to Britney's situation. 

[Bimbo]

Some of y’all really read “conservatorship” and the monkey clapping in your empty head just goes “Britney!!” “money!!” “bad!!” 

[TeemoR]

She knows

[Sergi91]

 

[Sugar-Rush]

I mean, from the sound of it her son is suffering from drug addiction and can't make reasonable financial decisions on his own as a result, so I'm not seeing how a conservatorship in this case is a bad thing? 

[Vermillion]

While I’m not ok with establishing conservatorships as a form of drug rehab as has been mentioned, I’d need this confirmed, but it’s sounding like he’s never been truly independent financially as a result of the addiction to begin with.

 

And he’s now 47. So essentially this is now a legally binding form of intense financial support she’d likely been providing him anyways forever.

 

I’d need further details.

[Bussea]

4 hours ago, Digitalism said:

How some of you sound here:

She is in the wrong here

Just let her drug addict son spend all of his money and die 

this. this is one of the few times I agree with one and Cher is obviously doing it for his own  good and health. She wouldn’t be asking for one if his entire situation wasn’t that serious

 

 

and why are yall acting as if Cher is pinching pennies and pressed for cash? She’s ******* CHER  The majority of his money is probably coming FROM her directly or indirectly 

Edited December 28, 2023 by Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣

[TheFireLexus]

3 hours ago, Tm4074 said:

we should not support it

Who are you and what say do you think you have?

[LikeaRebel]

A sad situation regardless.  I hope everything works out. 

[Vermillion]

The only glaring asterisks of problems I have with this are the allegations of his being forcibly removed and Cher’s legal insinuations his wife encouraged or was too permissive of his drug use. That’s where there’s seemingly a lot of gray area and where I’m not giving Cher the benefit of the doubt.

[Richie.Valdez]

I stand with her 

[Phaunzie]

This smells like a Lou Taylor Productions

 

[Katamari]

Why does this have four pages

 

her son is a know drug addict and it sounds like she’s trying to save him from financial ruin and trying to get him some help

[Gaia]

5 hours ago, Digitalism said:

How some of you sound here:

She is in the wrong here

Just let her drug addict son spend all of his money and die 

 

[Gaia]

4 hours ago, Tm4074 said:

Love Cher but substance abuse issues is not sufficient grounds for a conservatorship. If a judge approves this that is a violation of his human rights and we should not support it.  If we put people in conservatorships for making poor life decisions that sets a very dangerous precedent.  Millions of people struggle with substance abuse issues and make terrible life decisions like spending all their money and stealing from others as a result. However it is their right to make those decisions and they have to deal with the consequences.

 

If she's worried about his financial management she should cut him off financially and not financially support him unless he addresses his substance abuse issues.  I'm a social worker and work with individuals struggling with substance abuse and mental health conditions . The goal is supporting them with working towards self-determination, not taking away their autonomy.  Putting people with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues in conservatorships is creating a bigger societal problem in regards to our mental health care system and how we as a society treat those with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues.  Conservatorships for mental health issues is calling back to the days of institutionalization which was phased out for community based care for a reason.

 

Conservatorships are regressive and should only be considered as a very last resort meaning mental health conditions and substance abuse issues do not meet the qualifying criteria for a conservatorship.  An individual must be incapacitated with verifiable medical history of that person lacking capacity for a significant duration of time (ex: dementia).  Conservatorships are notorious for corruption and abuse due to lack of proper oversight - the government has no place putting individuals that don't meet the criteria in these horrible legal arrangements when the state doesn't provide proper resources and funding to oversee these conservatorships in the first place allowing for corruption and exploitation to run rampant.

You do not know them personally to know what's "sufficient" for his situation. Not "violation of his human rights" so they should just wait for him to overdose before trying to forcefully intervene? Do you legitimately think if they've gone this far that they haven't already tried rehab, giving him less resources, etc. 

 

Cutting off an addict child only means they'll completely take to the streets for their drugs which any parent would NOT want. At least with Cher in charge of finances they can try to manage the situation instead of just cutting him off cold turkey and leaving to die on the streets like you're suggesting. 

 

The social police of the internet are so wildly annoying to always interject and act like they know the best for every person and every situation. And to clarify, you being a social worker does mean you know best in every situation either. So let's not even make that assumption.

Edited December 28, 2023 by Gaia

[Cap87]

I'm giving Cher the side eye

 

 

[Cap87]

 

[Jeremiah]

People shouting no one knows the private situation and it’s for Elijah’s best interest but also calling him a drug addict bum when they just found out Cher has another son? See how easy y’all fall for narratives