KillingYourCareer Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 He is still a false prophet sorry 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted December 18, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted December 18, 2023 What about same-sex marriages? While this, on paper, looks great. The fact it's 2023 and he's just now okaying the blessing of a relationship between two members of the same sex, so long as it is not a marriage, is such a pitifully low bar. If this makes a queer couple's day, then that's amazing for them and I love that for them. But I'm not extending any praise to the pope because this is still discriminatory.
Chemist Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 15 hours ago, alexrex said: Why would we want the blessing from such a horrible organization that has killed so many throughout history? Believe it or not many people still consider the pope as a spiritual guide so this has the potential to be positive for LGBTQ people that are still around and/or discriminated by Catholics.
AlanRickman1946 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 On 12/19/2023 at 4:34 AM, KillingYourCareer said: He is still a false prophet sorry Why do you think so though? I thought you were an Italian Catholic. BTW, i don't disagree just wondering why you said that because I do recall you saying pope benedict was removed as part of a coup.
KillingYourCareer Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, AlanRickman1946 said: Why do you think so though? I thought you were an Italian Catholic. BTW, i don't disagree just wondering why you said that because I do recall you saying pope benedict was removed as part of a coup. I wasn't raised in religion apart from being baptized which was done to 98% of babies born in my province in the late 90s, my parents let me choose my own beliefs (even though my mom always pushed me towards only believing science), but I never became interested in the spiritual part of religion. It's a fascinating world from a historical and institutional point of view, and I have read a lot about it. After John Paul II, a very charismatic church leader who had also swept a lot of dirt under the rug (think of the pedophilia cases, he kept them secret until it wasn't possible anymore), Pope Benedict was chosen. A man of conservative beliefs and with a pragmatic mindset who wanted to maintain church traditions while also acting when it was needed. There was a severe pedophilia case, Mauro Inzoli, a powerful and very rich priest from my town who was head of Comunione e Liberazione (a religious mafia with half a million members, no other way to describe it), had accumulated 20+ court cases that went back to the 90s from parents of boys aged 12-16 denouncing rape and sexual assault. Benedict sent all the necessary papers to Cremona (they had been safely hidden in the Vatican until then), and legal action could be taken. Benedict also excommunicated him. This and many other cases, plus the fact that he was conservative and unpopular among the youth (the Catholic church had been losing members and struggling to find new recruits) made sure he had a lot of powerful enemies, and that's why he was removed. Bergoglio replaced him and was soon marketed as youth-friendly while forgiving (de-excommunicating) pedo Inzoli, someone who did irreversible damage to what ended up being 200+ young boys according to investigations. He's only there to repeat what powerful people tell him to say, he has no morals and you can see it in the inconsistency of his statements (such as the one in this thread: first he travels to Slovenia to campaign against the same-sex marriage bill, then he says that priests can bless same-sex unions, then he drops the *** twice and denies what he had said...). And that's why for me the papal position has been vacant since Pope Benedict's death.
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