liquiddiamonds Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Vespertine said: This thread Since when are there OCHs on here? Exactly. I dont see Cher doin the Hall of Fame either (same reasons as Barbra, Bette Midler, etc). It’s not where the taste of the members lie, although they could sneak through online voting. But to say Cher was famous for crazy outfits and popularizing a tool for those that can’t sing is INSANE. She was a pioneer female pop star that ventured successfully into music, film, fashion, TV and touring. The prototype basically, and a very natural at that with ups and downs, but hell of longevity…. Edited December 16, 2023 by liquiddiamonds 4 2
Sarkisian Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, readytowind said: using some kind of technology is not an achievement. she has not changed anything. using that technology is not even her skill. autotune is not even a music genre either. i dont agree with her coming out and saying she changed pop. actually she followed and pasted electronic and techno music which madonna had adopted and experimented to the mainstream for the first time before her and the earliest. to my view, she didnt change anything in pop. just followed what madonna did and added an autotune for a sauce to it. she can keep being pressed while not inducted there. i assume she's still unbelievably successful, and will be without it Clearly you had to be a fan of Madonna to try to diminish Cher's impact, Believe has nothing to do with Madonna, whether autotune is good or not it changed music forever, it wasn't just used as a tool it's an extremely prevalent musical effect that changed the sound of almost all the mainstream things that came after, impact is measured only by the change it causes, some people will like the change and others will not, but this is not being judged, every change comes with controversies 3 2
Sarkisian Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Not only that but she is a female pioneer, she was the first woman to have 5 singles in the top 20 at the same time, she was once the female singer with most #1 songs, the 70's story telling songs were popularized by herself, before anyone else she talked about divorce in the 60s, abortion, racism, prostitution, she is the only female to have a #1 in 6 and 7 decades and the list goes on... there are people who doesn't have half of her impact and relevance inducted there Edited December 16, 2023 by Sarkisian 6 2 1
readytowind Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Dont forget the sonny part. He shouldn't be omitted. Some of The achievements were not done by her name alone or herself. No.1 in 7 decades part. It's not even in the hot 100 charts. I can't. Adult contemporary chart is not a major chart. But if you insist, who cant?? If it makes her happy, let it be. Edited December 16, 2023 by readytowind 2
Sarkisian Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, readytowind said: Dont forget the sonny part. He shouldn't be omitted. Some of The achievements were not done by her name alone or herself. No.1 in 7 decades part. It's not even in the hot 100 charts. I can't. Adult contemporary chart is not a major chart. But if you insist, who cant?? If it makes her happy, let it be. If its so easy why NO ONE else has it... tell me if anyone else has a top 5 song on hot 100 for 4 consecutive decades (and all of them solo), does anyone else has a top 10 on the UK Singles Charts in 6 decades? When was the last (and only) time a +50 woman topped the year end hot 100??? call billboard or the guinness if you have a problem with that, she did it and doesn't have to prove anything else
readytowind Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Sarkisian said: If its so easy why NO ONE else has it... tell me if anyone else has a top 5 song on hot 100 for 4 consecutive decades (and all of them solo), does anyone else has a top 10 on the UK Singles Charts in 6 decades? When was the last (and only) time a +50 woman topped the year end hot 100??? call billboard or the guinness if you have a problem with that, she did it and doesn't have to prove anything else well, she has only 6 top 5 songs for her god damn so called 7 decades. LOL from 60s to 90s each decade has only one top 5 song except for her peak 70s. for me thats a serious hit song drought. and now comes out saying she has 4 different decades. LMAO as if she had tones of hit singles over the decades. Im sorry. that doesnt impress me. maybe thats why you had to bring up the adult contemporary chart. LOL OK. keep the records. thats cute. congrats~ Edited December 16, 2023 by readytowind
Marla Singer Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Cher's expression as she was just nodding along in the last 30 seconds. I do like Kelly but her guests sometimes struggle to get a word in edgeways.
Raptus Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Love her, but she's more of a popculture icon than music artist. She doesn't have a body of work that is important to music history. Just a few classic hits.
Frozen99 Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 she should be in and she has right to say it! 1
MichaelW Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) Glad Cher made it in. Very Well Deserved If Cher does show up I hope she sings Bang Bang (my baby shot me down) Edited April 24 by MichaelW
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) On 12/17/2023 at 6:13 AM, Raptus said: Love her, but she's more of a popculture icon than music artist. She doesn't have a body of work that is important to music history. Just a few classic hits. Agree. She was desperate. And made them work for her. basically the media was forcing them to hand it to her. It doesn't mean anything now. Kinda ridiculed Edited April 24 by thequeenofpopmadonna 3
Sarkisian Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Agree. She was desperate. And made them work for her. basically the media was forcing them to hand it to her. It doesn't mean anything now. Kinda ridiculed Your ignorance is ridiculous. If her work wasn't important enough what she said wouldn't have reverberated as it did, she's so important that everyone recognizes she should already be there Go learn something and have respect for the woman who paved the way to your fave, once you learn how to read, you can have a word on this matter https://www.vulture.com/article/cher-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.html https://www.billboard.com/lists/cher-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-reasons-why/ Edited April 24 by Sarkisian 2
bielneira Posted April 24 Posted April 24 I must confess I don't know anything about Cher. The only song I know is "Believe", and I don't like it. 1 4
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) On 12/17/2023 at 6:13 AM, Raptus said: Love her, but she's more of a popculture icon than music artist. She doesn't have a body of work that is important to music history. Just a few classic hits. Not even a few. She's like one hit wonder. People only know her believe. Sonny and Cher I got you babe. This isn't even a solo song. That's it Most people dont know her songs Edited April 24 by thequeenofpopmadonna 6
Sarkisian Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Not even a few. She's like one hit wonder. People only know her believe. Sonny and Cher I got you babe. This isn't even a solo song. That's it Most people dont know her songs Your stupidity shows, how sad!!! in the 70's she was the female singer with most #1s in history at the time, she was the first woman to have 5 songs charting simultaneously inside the top 20 of the Hot 100, she's the only singer with a #1 song on a Billboard chart in 7 decades, she's the only singer with an entry on Billboard Hot 100 in 6 decades (solo entries in every decade), she's the only female singer with a top 10 hit on the UK charts in 6 decades, she helds the record of most watched TV concert special with an audience of over 20 million... and the list goes on She is the only person ever to have an Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, Cannes, Golden Globles, CDFA and now is also a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee, KEEP CRYING 😂 Edited April 25 by Sarkisian 2 5 1
suburbannature Posted April 25 Posted April 25 How braindead do you have to be to call Cher a one hit wonder 6 2 1
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) Don't get fumed. That's reality. Most of her songs are unknown and missing in the all time charts except believe, one hit. In many countries her chart stats are less than underwhelming. I did state facts and you are in Denial. Edited April 26 by thequeenofpopmadonna 2 3
Sarkisian Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 38 minutes ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Don't get fumed. That's reality. Most of her songs are unknown and missing in the all time charts except believe, one hit. In many countries her chart stats are less than underwhelming. I did state facts and you are in Denial. Facts = your opinions, everything you say is a lie, I just feel sorry you feel the need Edited April 26 by Sarkisian 2
Anthinos Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Cher is a legend and she had far more hits than just Believe. It was a different time, but that doesn't make her successes any less valuable. Our generation won't live forever either. And the fact that she's still here and celebrating success shows how legendary she is. She should definitely be included. 2 2 1
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Sarkisian said: Facts = your opinions, everything you say is a lie, I just feel sorry you feel the need You are in Denial. I see all time charts in many charts in many countries. Your Cher is nowhere seen. One hit believe is an exception. Facts hurt, huh? I think you are lying Edited April 26 by thequeenofpopmadonna 2
kataraqueen Posted April 26 Posted April 26 im glad some people in here get to have fun in the retirement home justice4cher!! 1
Jay07 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 On 4/24/2024 at 10:57 PM, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Agree. She was desperate. And made them work for her. basically the media was forcing them to hand it to her. It doesn't mean anything now. Kinda ridiculed If only it was that easy to get into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
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