celeb news Taylor’s owned catalogue surpasses the value of the stolen one

[Michael196]

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Michael196

[Tusk]

And atrl says her TVs are botched.

[Stunnah]

Why is the second valuation quoted from almost half a decade ago? What is the current value of the original recordings? 

[Yoko]

aren’t the digital sales on the originals not monumental idk how the current catalogue stacks up unless streaming is that strong 

[dumbsparce]

Is "stolen" used loosely? Did she not just regret not reading the contract? 

[Cheers]

It's unfair how she always wins. Like can she please LOSE for a few years? Too much success is not good for one individual.

 

[Alexz]

5 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Is "stolen" used loosely? Did she not just regret not reading the contract? 

Nobody stole anything. Taylor signed.

[feelslikeadream]

9 minutes ago, Tusk said:

And atrl says her TVs are botched.

"Both of these things can be true." — Taylor Swift, "Happiness"

 

 

No, but seriously, I do think a handful of tracks are botched and find it very hard to believe others don't hear it (like IKYWT, as one of the most egregious examples). But I use the TVs for their vault tracks, not OG tracks. She was very smart to add those

[cat1867]

6 minutes ago, Yoko said:

aren’t the digital sales on the originals not monumental idk how the current catalogue stacks up unless streaming is that strong 

Valuation is based on future projected earnings not past earnings. 

 

So basically her owned catalogue is expected to bring in more revenue in the future than the catalog owned by Ithaca.

  

[Anti-Hero]

14 minutes ago, Alexz said:

Nobody stole anything. Taylor signed.

You are not a Swfitie but I always see you in Taylor threads. Get a life.

 

We know it was not Stolen, we just call it that. 

[Chartman]

$500 Million catalog value created from 4 new studio albums and 4 rerecordings. In addition being on a tour that grosses more than $1.5 billion just from ticket sales and a move that grossed $250 Million. That is a big half decade for Ms. Swift. 

 

 

[KingWitch]

27 minutes ago, Tusk said:

And atrl says her TVs are botched.

They are ,just listening to 1989 vs 1989 TV and hearing the difference in production quality is jarring. The success of the TV's is fueled purely by her fanbase ,the GP will continue to listen to originals and over the years the hype for the re-recordings will die down and everyone will go back to originals because the production quality is superior.

[Konril]

Debut and Reputa still to come. 

[Illuminati]

I'd imagine the accuracy of this is up to debate but this is nevertheless an incredible achievement The last 5 years were the busiest in her career

[FightDragonsWithMe]

As it should 

[Brooklyn Baby]

40 minutes ago, Tusk said:

And atrl says her TVs are botched.

Well some of them are. Doesn’t mean they’re not going to be mass consumed

[TaggedGalaxy]

6 minutes ago, Konril said:

Debut and Reputa still to come. 

to tank the value of her catalog?

[Blade Runner]

42 minutes ago, Tusk said:

And atrl says her TVs are botched.

What do these b+tches know? They don't even listen to her music lol

[LittleStarmen]

I dont think this is true since the original catalog also increased in value with her current success

[pinkbowvintage]

Her dad made millions on the masters sale.

 

I love love love her music and I'm a fan, but I don't understand why people are still buying that her stuff was literally stolen and she's this downtrodden indie artist lulz. Most artists don't own their masters. She's making tons on both versions and gets to re-introduce her older work to the general public and profit off of both. It's a genius marketing tactic.

[Bosque]

35 minutes ago, KingWitch said:

They are ,just listening to 1989 vs 1989 TV and hearing the difference in production quality is jarring. The success of the TV's is fueled purely by her fanbase ,the GP will continue to listen to originals and over the years the hype for the re-recordings will die down and everyone will go back to originals because the production quality is superior.

Albums Daily Streams (December 4, 2023):

1989 (Taylor's Version) - 15,681,403

Red (Taylor's Version) - 5,731,987

Speak Now (Taylor's Version) - 5,404,300

1989 - 5,371,861 

Fearless (Taylor's Version) - 4,706,036

 

BARRIER

 

Speak Now - 1,429,272

Red - 1,256,924

Fearless - 963,541

 

queen of having a bigger fanbase than the GP has people

[Headlock]

8 minutes ago, pinkbowvintage said:

Her dad made millions on the masters sale.

 

I love love love her music and I'm a fan, but I don't understand why people are still buying that her stuff was literally stolen and she's this downtrodden indie artist lulz. Most artists don't own their masters. She's making tons on both versions and gets to re-introduce her older work to the general public and profit off of both. It's a genius marketing tactic.

Just because something is the “norm” doesn’t make it correct or ethical. I truly don’t understand these ~read the contract!1!~ and ~most artists down own their work~ comments that essentially brown-nosing late-stage capitalism. No Taylor is not hurting financially, but her argument is one based on principle, both that artists should own their work, and that she personally built valuing artists’ work into her brand and relationship at Big Machine, and was ****** over by the same person who once stood by her in this. She took her music off Spotify because of this. She wrote to Apple Music because of this. Owning her work falls into that same category. Scooter being the one that bought them was just icing on the cake, she’s also allowed to feel some type of way about that.

 

Also ‘stolen’ is just stan slang, like ‘Scooter’s version’.

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, dumbsparce said:

Did she not just regret not reading the contract? 

No she didn't? 

 

She knew she wouldn't own her masters. Do you think she learned that she wouldn't own them...in 2019? 

 

She didn't have any problem with her contract. Her problem was Scott Borchetta refusing to sell her the masters and selling them to Scooter instead. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Artistofthedecade

[family.guy123]

1 hour ago, dumbsparce said:

Is "stolen" used loosely? Did she not just regret not reading the contract? 

Mommy, daddy, and their lawyers sure read it 

[Alexz]

1 hour ago, Anti-Hero said:

You are not a Swfitie but I always see you in Taylor threads. Get a life.

 

We know it was not Stolen, we just call it that. 

I have a very good life. Don't take it personal Taylor will never look at your way.