BtDecember Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Assassin said: still a climate criminal. Just like you and me and every single person on earth 3
AMIT Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, woohoo said: It’s when you shell out 55 million in bonuses and people like working for you. So we should be at the mercy of the rich and hope they're benevolent enough to share with us mere mortals a part of their wealth (which they've acumulated by having people work for them - you know, the same kind of people Taylor is so generously giving out bonuses for)? Also "people like working for you'' ignores the fact that people HAVE to work for (and enrich) capitalists like Taylor to survive. Edited December 5, 2023 by AMIT 2 1
barbiegrande Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Swifties need to understand that Taylor Swift is a corporation. No corporation is good 2
poki Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Congrats but the very concept of billionaires is not something that should exist. https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/to-save-us-democracy-tax-the-rich-at-90 America econocially prospered when wealth was taxed at 90% on the rich. It dropped down in the 80s by you-know-which-president and look where we are today. 1 1
Queenyoncee Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, KOMH said: No makeup or Bernard Arnault needed Celebrating other people's wealth is embarrassing
woohoo Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, AMIT said: So we should be at the mercy of the rich and hope they're benevolent enough to share with us mere mortals a part of their wealth (which they've acumulated by having people work for them - you know, the same kind of people Taylor is so generously giving out bonuses for)? Also "people like working for you'' ignores the fact that people HAVE to work for (and enrich) capitalists like Taylor to survive. Nobody’s forcing you to work. You can sit your phone down right now and walk off into the woods, build a little cabin and grow a little garden and hunt a few animals. People did it for centuries. While I agree with you on people like bezos and the Waltons, there are a few good billionaires doing good things with their money…Dolly Parton, Taylor swift, and Mackenzie Scott to name a few. 1 1
Assassin Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, BtDecember said: Just like you and me and every single person on earth I don't have a private jet, and I use my car like once a week to get groceries.
AMIT Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, woohoo said: Nobody’s forcing you to work. You can sit your phone down right now and walk off into the woods, build a little cabin and grow a little garden and hunt a few animals. People did it for centuries. While I agree with you on people like bezos and the Waltons, there are a few good billionaires doing good things with their money…Dolly Parton, Taylor swift, and Mackenzie Scott to name a few. How has that worked out and is working out for indigenous people? If you believe some people should be above others in a social hierarchy, you could just say that. We wouldn't need ''''''''good''''''' billionaires doing ''good'' things if we had a system that distributed the wealth created more fairly and it's weird you seemingly cannot imagine us doing things differently than how we're doing right now. 1
Steve Johnson Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Now how do we get her to 2 billion? She will be at 1.7 billion (at least) next year after tour is over. 2
ttsmu Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said: Now how do we get her to 2 billion? She will be at 1.7 billion (at least) next year after tour is over. Maybe you can spend your dollars buying tons of Vinyls, CDs and cassettes. Even if you already have them. Or throwing your dollars directly at her when you attend the Eras tour so she can have an extra income. Sky's the limit. Edited December 5, 2023 by ttsmu 2 2
Strawberry Bubble Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, barbiegrande said: Swifties need to understand that Taylor Swift is a corporation. No corporation is good This comment is literally irrelevant: any big singer (including the one in your profile pic) operates as a corporation. Taylor Swift isn't causing any more harm than other artists in the industry. Following that logic, it would be incoherent to stan any big artist. 1
Steve Johnson Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, ttsmu said: Maybe you can spend your dollars buying tons of Vinyls, CDs and cassettes. Even if you already have them. Or throwing your dollars directly at her when you attend the Eras tour so she can have an extra income. Sky's the limit. Thanks ttsmu. Sky is truly the limit for her. 1
Strawberry Bubble Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Sannie said: All stanning aside, what she has been able to accomplish with mostly music along has been impressive. Apparently her deal with AMC nets her 57% of ticket sales so she has already made over $100,000,000 from the movie. She is a fantastically brilliant business woman. And yes, she is one of the most powerful people in the world, which makes her objective silence on so many major events and issues (in the US and globally) so sinister. When you have such immense power but refuse to use even the slightest of it for anything that does not directly support you, you are among the world's biggest cowards. I do not expect her to save or change the world, but she has the ability to help make things better for people and she just does not care. Regarding her silence in politics: I really believe famous singers shouldn't be forced to talk about social issues all the time. They're not activists, most of them haven't even been to college, and honestly, they're pretty clueless about those topics. People need to stop expecting celebs to share their ignorant opinions on everything.
woohoo Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, AMIT said: How has that worked out and is working out for indigenous people? If you believe some people should be above others in a social hierarchy, you could just say that. We wouldn't need ''''''''good''''''' billionaires doing ''good'' things if we had a system that distributed the wealth created more fairly and it's weird you seemingly cannot imagine us doing things differently than how we're doing right now. so how do you think we should go about redistributing the wealth because I’m all for that but…you’ll never make everyone equal. If Taylor spilts her profit with all her employees great, she just created 300-400 more multi-millionaires. Then if say a local grocery store chain owner spilts his few million evenly with his employees then they each get a couple 100 thousand. That doesn’t make them equal to Taylor’s employees. Then if the government steps and says everyone only gets X amount yearly allowed to go into their accounts after that you’re cut off, then nobody is going to want to be a doctor or lawyer or hell even be Taylor swift. Nobody is going to want to tour for months on end for the same pay you can make doing much less. So how would you solve the wealth inequality problem? Because im genuinely curious and no I do not think anyone should be better than anyone else BUT we enable it, every stream, every concert, every album, every trip into Walmart or into Amazon.
ImpressMeMuch Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 The PR machines effect is insane with the spin I see people fully buying into on this lmao
barbiegrande Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sebastián Muñoz said: This comment is literally irrelevant: any big singer (including the one in your profile pic) operates as a corporation. Taylor Swift isn't causing any more harm than other artists in the industry. Following that logic, it would be incoherent to stan any big artist. Her carbon footprint would beg to differ Most pop stars aren’t letting their white trash family borrow their jet like a motorbike to go pick up groceries Edited December 5, 2023 by barbiegrande 2
Strawberry Bubble Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, barbiegrande said: Her carbon footprint would beg to differ Most pop stars aren’t letting their white trash family borrow their jet like a motorbike to go pick up groceries Any big artist that has collaborated with makeup brands or has thrown massive concerts is contaminating the world. Just because Taylor has bigger concerts doesn't mean she is worse than Nicki, they're both contaminating, and Nicki would be doing the same if she was as popular as Taylor. Please don't believe that Nicki is not selling out as many stadiums because she is eco-conscious or something like that. Oh, and Nicki is that type of corporation that spreads vaccine misinformation during a global pandemic, which is a little embarrassing, btw. 1
AMIT Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, woohoo said: so how do you think we should go about redistributing the wealth because I’m all for that but…you’ll never make everyone equal. If Taylor spilts her profit with all her employees great, she just created 300-400 more multi-millionaires. Then if say a local grocery store chain owner spilts his few million evenly with his employees then they each get a couple 100 thousand. That doesn’t make them equal to Taylor’s employees. Then if the government steps and says everyone only gets X amount yearly allowed to go into their accounts after that you’re cut off, then nobody is going to want to be a doctor or lawyer or hell even be Taylor swift. Nobody is going to want to tour for months on end for the same pay you can make doing much less. So how would you solve the wealth inequality problem? Because im genuinely curious and no I do not think anyone should be better than anyone else BUT we enable it, every stream, every concert, every album, every trip into Walmart or into Amazon. You are correct, we do enable it, but that's mostly because the wealth created/resources available were and keep being stolen from everyone by a group of individuals, codified into law (private ownership) and then sold back to us for a profit. There's a lot of work to be done, not just logistically but culturally/socially/philosophically as well. It's not necessarily about making everyone ''equal'' but by identifying and doing the best we can to meet everyone's needs, at the very least. The commons should be, within reason, available for everyone, splitting hairs about who owns what or is entitled to what is a path doomed to failure. Measuring everyone's worth by how much money is in their bank account is a terrible way to go about things, especially when money and the ability to make it are also tied to if someone will survive period. We already produce more than we can feed people, and there's enough space for everyone. The ''problem'' is that it is not profitable to do such things. Being a doctor already grants someone with a certain social status. An individual wanting to aid other people's health is not correlated to their supposed desire of accumulating wealth, that's such a weird angle to argue from. Maybe we would have less plastic surgeons, I guess? How would that be such a loss for the world when most people cannot even afford that anyway? You also seem to neglect the fact that most people who did or can accumulate wealth already had some level of money to begin with. It's a riged, unsustainable game that only gets worse with time. Why do you think wealth inequality keeps rising and reaching levels never before seen?
Mocha Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 and the people eating the corn out of her **** won't be seeing a dime out of that money
Digitalism Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Anti-Hero said: Other girls need to sell make up You can't even celebrate without bringing people who are closer to 2 billion Some girlies do it faster without having to release 7 albums in 4 years 1
Katy V.! Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, barbiegrande said: Her carbon footprint would beg to differ Most pop stars aren’t letting their white trash family borrow their jet like a motorbike to go pick up groceries Yall want her (and her family) to get murdered so bad 2
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