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US banned China from the International Space Station and then forbade any collaboration in order to kill Chinese progress in space exploration. As a result China had to re-learn everything on its own and, against all odds, succeeded: it's now the only country in history to have its own national space station and it's doing its own exploration missions in space.

 

But now that they have something that the US doesn't have - these recent moon samples - the US suddenly makes an exception and is happy to communicate. Even more unreal, in their request they have the guts to write this: "This allowance [to exceptionally communicate with you] applies specifically to Chang’e 5 mission samples; the normal prohibition on bilateral activity with PRC on Nasa-funded projects remains in place”. In other words, this is purely one-sided, we only make an exception because it benefits us.


Nasa now urges researchers to reach out for China’s Chang’e 5 moon samples, sidestepping the US ban, in exception to the congressional Wolf Amendment.
 

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The Wolf Amendment is a law passed by the United States Congress in 2011, named after then–United States Representative Frank Wolf, that prohibits the United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) from using government funds to engage in direct, bilateral cooperation with the Chinese government and Chinese affiliated organisations.

 

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I mean, with Musk Rockets exploding in the atmosphere, the US doesn't seem likely to make it back to the moon themselves any time soon.

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:fan: there's always an Asian better than you

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Why did you misquote the very article you claim to be quoting? Because it certainly doesn't contain anything like the text you put into "quotation" marks

 

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The Chinese National Space Administration's latest application round is the first to be opened to academics outside China

 

In an internal email on Wednesday, the US space agency said it had “certified its intent to Congress” to allow Nasa-funded researchers to apply to the CNSA for access to the lunar samples, collected by China’s Chang’e 5 mission in 2020

 

James Head, a planetary geoscientist at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, said there had been “great enthusiasm” internationally to study the samples. He predicted that “many colleagues will be applying”, now that Nasa has opened access.

“It should be a very large set of applications,” he said on Thursday.

The CNSA’s latest application cycle, which closes on December 22, is the first to accept research proposals from outside China. Applicants can log on to the sample release system, check out the specimen’s properties, such as weight and size, and bid to study a maximum of five.

In short, it's the first time the Chinese National Space Administration is even accepting, let alone soliciting research proposals from outside the country. Funny how your title describes the exact opposite of what actually happened 

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a ccp propaganda thread

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20 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Why did you misquote the very article you claim to be quoting? Because it certainly doesn't contain anything like the text you put into "quotation" marks

 

In short, it's the first time the Chinese National Space Administration is even accepting, let alone soliciting research proposals from outside the country. Funny how your title describes the exact opposite of what actually happened 

Not China extending grace and opening research sharing up to the country who purposefully tried to block other countries gaining access to mRNA vaccine technology despite such leading to tens of millions of needless deaths. 

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3 hours ago, Dephira said:

Why did you misquote the very article you claim to be quoting? Because it certainly doesn't contain anything like the text you put into "quotation" marks

 

In short, it's the first time the Chinese National Space Administration is even accepting, let alone soliciting research proposals from outside the country. Funny how your title describes the exact opposite of what actually happened 

You can find the quoted statement referenced in this Space dot com article. I’d quoted the text in the tweet. 
 

And that’s not true, this application process was also offered with Chang’e-4 in 2019.

 

Not to mention other collaborative endeavours, including: 

 

- July 2018, the Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite-1 (PRSS-1), jointly developed by China and Pakistan.

 

- February 2018, the China Seismo-Electromagnetic Satellite (CSES), jointly developed by China and Italy.

 

- October 2018, the China-France Oceanography Satellite (CFOSAT), jointly developed by China and France.


- December 2019, the China-Brazil Earth Resources Satellite-04A (CBERS-04A), jointly developed by China and Brazil, was successfully launched. The CBERS is hailed as a model of South-South cooperation.

 

- December 2019, China successfully launched the Ethiopian Remote Sensing Microsatellite, providing remote sensing data for Ethiopia to support the monitoring of droughts and floods.

 

- From 2013, CNSA has signed cooperative agreements respectively with the countries such as Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia and Thailand, the space agencies of BRICS countries, and the organizations such as Asia-Pacific Space Cooperation Organization (APSCO) to establish satellite data sharing mechanisms.

 

Etc Etc. 

 

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3 hours ago, Revolution said:

a ccp propaganda thread

Not really, I find it outrageous & condemnable that

 

“There are currently no nationwide laws in China that explicitly prohibit the mistreatment of animals, except for a more generic law protecting wildlife.”

 

This is more so an “oh lookie, more American entitlement” thread lol. 

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