heckinglovato Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Oh wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalism Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 It was pretty obvious This is Israel we're talking about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Oct 7th was an inside job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Duh. Of course their intelligence knew about the attack, but they needed an excuse for their war crimes and to commit genocide and steal more Palestinian land. We've been saying that they couldn't care less about their civilians and the hostages. Once again, Israel is taking a page out of its mommy America's playbook. Edited December 2, 2023 by State of Grace. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, moo said: Oct 7th was an inside job. Ehh, I have an issue with people calling this or 9/11 inside jobs, because that would require the government being actively involved in the attack. Being aware of the potential attack and not doing something to stop it doesn't make it an inside job in my opinion. Edited December 2, 2023 by Hurem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Oz Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Well duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckinglovato Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, Hurem said: Ehh, I have an issue with people calling this or 9/11 inside jobs, because that would require the government being actively involved in the attack. Being aware of the potential attack and not doing something to stop it doesn't make it an inside job in my opinion. Ignoring credible large-scale national security threats, when your main job is to protect the national security of your citizens, makes you explicitly complicit. Oct 7 was an inside job. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, heckinglovato said: Ignoring credible large-scale national security threats, when your main job is to protect the national security of your citizens, makes you explicitly complicit. Oct 7 was an inside job. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphireSky Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 That was pretty obvious from the start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphireSky Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Hurem said: Being aware of the potential attack and not doing something to stop it doesn't make it an inside job in my opinion. Yes it does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, moo said: Oct 7th was an inside job. they have technology and people watching the borders so that not a mouse would've snuck in... yet the army took several hours to do sth... they just wanted a reason for a retaliation. sad, hopefully the world stand behind palestine, they get their state and the situations calms down #whishfulthinking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckinglovato Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, bjorn said: No ok zionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embustera Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, moo said: Oct 7th was an inside job. Most people believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 This thread is comical. The supposedly pro-Palestinian comments in here are basically making the case for continued occupation. If Israel can’t take its foot off of the national security pedal for ongoing fear of an attack, that doesn’t exactly translate into liberation for Palestinians. It’s actually the opposite. Anyway, it’s simple. Hamas should not have carried out the attack. It made life worse for Palestinians. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhabylon Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Israel is a maniacal terrorist state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Is anyone surprised? No. And they did nothing to stop it? Yes. Why? Because they wanted a reason to continue their 75 year ethnic cleansing campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Kassi said: This thread is comical. The supposedly pro-Palestinian comments in here are basically making the case for continued occupation. If Israel can’t take its foot off of the national security pedal for ongoing fear of an attack, that doesn’t exactly translate into liberation for Palestinians. It’s actually the opposite. Anyway, it’s simple. Hamas should not have carried out the attack. It made life worse for Palestinians. The Hamas attack did its job in the end: it provoked an overbearing response from Israel and forced America to defend it, thereby isolating Israel and America from the rest of the world, who are disgusted by the IDF's depravity and with Joe Biden for bear-hugging Netanyahu and greenlighting an explicit genocide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R.L Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Israel previously knowing about the attack of hamas is something I blame them for. But that doesn't make them responsible only for what is happening to poor Palestinians. Hamas is worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungryByTheBuffet Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Even if they knew, they wouldn't know exactly when and if it'll happen, so they might just prefer not to freak the public out and do their best to prevent it from ever happening? Same with 9/11, you can believe the gov did it but it's inconclusive at best, all we know is they both knew an attack was being planned and the negligence surrounding is suspicious. You can argue governments should be more transparent but at the end of the day we all know that never happens under veils of national security, sadly all these attacks caused are the validation of those same old rhetorics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 23 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: The Hamas attack did its job in the end: it provoked an overbearing response from Israel and forced America to defend it, thereby isolating Israel and America from the rest of the world, who are disgusted by the IDF's depravity and with Joe Biden for bear-hugging Netanyahu and greenlighting an explicit genocide. What are the tangible, specific improvements for Palestinians that have resulted from the “isolation” of the USA and Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Dephira said: What are the tangible, specific improvements for Palestinians that have resulted from the “isolation” of the USA and Israel? how many European leaders spoke out about the Israeli regime committing pogroms in *checks notes* February 2023: vs now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dephira said: What are the tangible, specific improvements for Palestinians that have resulted from the “isolation” of the USA and Israel? The US losing its hegemony and becoming a global pariah due to Joe Biden’s unequivocal support of a genocide will mean liberation of the Global South as a whole in the long run. In a just world, the American Empire would collapse and become Balkanized, and Israel would go the way of Rhodesia as it deserves to. Apartheid ethnostates have no place in the modern world. Such things take time, but America losing standing among the community of nations is but one step towards that eventuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:46 PM, ClashAndBurn said: The Hamas attack did its job in the end: it provoked an overbearing response from Israel and forced America to defend it, thereby isolating Israel and America from the rest of the world, who are disgusted by the IDF's depravity and with Joe Biden for bear-hugging Netanyahu and greenlighting an explicit genocide. So Hamas was and is willing to sacrifice thousands of people just to make this point? 💀 says all ya need to know about the terrorist organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 hours ago, GhostBox said: So Hamas was and is willing to sacrifice thousands of people just to make this point? 💀 says all ya need to know about the terrorist organization I don’t think you realize that Israel was going to get around to doing this eventually anyway, once the Abraham Accords were finalized and the Palestinians were fully sidelined and forgotten by Trump and Biden’s negotiation efforts that were 100% in Israel’s favor. The IDF have been quietly killing Palestinian civilians with zero repercussions or consternation, with Trump and Biden granting them carte blanche to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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