celeb news Deuxmoi responds to Tree Pain & Taylor Swift with low blow, references deceased fan

[Velvet Night]

13 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

It is a nasty low blow, but she’s not entirely wrong that it’s very weird how Taylor’s team has already put time and energy into responding publicly to this random piece of gossip than the death of a fan at her concert.

Tree responded to this publicly because Deuxmoi kept insisting for MONTHS now that Taylor and Joe actually got married. Deuxmoi also speculated about Taylor having a miscarriage. I think that’s why Tree came out hard because those rumours are abhorrent and DM can’t keep getting away with this. 

I have to admit I wasn’t happy with how Taylor handled the death of a fan at her concert. However we don’t know what happened behind the scenes and at the end of the day, Taylor did the right thing, she contacted the family and donated. 

[Asscatchem]

2 hours ago, Carry My Heart said:

Deuxmoi has millions of followers on IG, spinoff subreddits, and the **** she posts is discussed en masse across social media daily. So this wasn't unwarranted.

 

OT: Disgusting that Ana's passing is still being brought up for drags. May she rest in peace.

i didnt even know who deuxmoi was until this news sis and im an atrl user... her measly 2mil ig followers really got tree shook?

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Asscatchem

[BtDecember]

59 minutes ago, Asscatchem said:

i didnt even know who deuxmoi was until this news sis and im an atrl user... her measly 2mil ig followers really got tree shook?

 

Are you serious?

 

100 people gossiping about someone could already make damages, what more if there are over 2 million?

 

ATRL, are you really siding on this gossip site or you are just hating Taylor? I don’t get why would someone defend that site when what Taylor wants is for this gossip site to NOT spread LIES (miscarriage, wedding). 

[Fama]

I think Miss Melissa Lovallo is very close to a lawsuit. Tree is using legal terms in her post.

[Asscatchem]

15 minutes ago, BtDecember said:

Are you serious?

 

100 people gossiping about someone could already make damages, what more if there are over 2 million?

 

ATRL, are you really siding on this gossip site or you are just hating Taylor? I don’t get why would someone defend that site when what Taylor wants is for this gossip site to NOT spread LIES (miscarriage, wedding). 

literally no one cared about this "gossip" but now its making national headlines thanks to tree giving it her platform

[Starships]

can duexmoi shut the **** up and disappear off the face of the earth?

[Lille]

Deuxmoi being an ugly loser yet again, can Tree please end her once and for all?!

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, Asscatchem said:

i didnt even know who deuxmoi was until this news sis and im an atrl user... her measly 2mil ig followers really got tree shook?

 

It's because deuxmoi just recently got on Ryan Seacrest's show and spreading more rumours about Taylor's love life with Travis (and she's even delusional enough to say that Taylor team wanted her to spread this news ).
Like it or not, deuxmoi also just got a book deal and a development deal for a HBO show before Tree's callout post. And she is using Taylor's private life as content folders for her disgusting and unethical platform. If Tree doesn't take actions now, this delusional woman is gonna cause even more harms then she already does.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Rep2000

[Sexyzinger]

Deumoix looks like Lady Gaga pre-fame.

[JoeAg]

someone's name is Tree? 

[Meev]

5 hours ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

It’s pretty clear Taylor is planning on suing them. Using the words “trauma and pain” is strategic because it implies measurable damages. you can’t sue unless there’s measurable damages. It’s the first step of documentation before taking legal progression. Them apologizing is admitting blame too.

SUE HAA 

[supaspaz]

8 hours ago, Dear Reader said:

AndthenTheCocaine's post or the story Deuxmoi posted?

The story Deuxmoi posted. Why is this particular post so outrageous that it would generate that reaction from Tree Paine? It's not even anti-Taylor.

[supaspaz]

8 hours ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

If any Swiftie speculated that Taylor had had a miscarriage they would and should be rightfully dragged too, so what is your point

Are we just ignoring the entire discourse around "Bigger Than the Whole Sky"?

[brazil]

If taylor is over that Brit why is mentioning their relationship the same as trauma? 

[Xtina23]

I like how deuxmoi isn't afraid to stand up for herself. good for ha! makes me want to root for ha even more!! yassss

[Peak Now]

29 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

Are we just ignoring the entire discourse around "Bigger Than the Whole Sky"?

And people who assumed that Taylor herself had a miscarriage did get rightfully dragged so again what is your point?

[supaspaz]

2 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

And people who assumed that Taylor herself had a miscarriage did get rightfully dragged so again what is your point?

Which is insane! This is an artist who has made her career out of unraveling the true meaning behind her songs. Of course people are going to speculate.

[Peak Now]

Just now, supaspaz said:

Which is insane! This is an artist who has made her career out of unraveling the true meaning behind her songs. Of course people are going to speculate.

So you're trying to say "she asked for it"...  

[supaspaz]

2 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

So you're trying to say "she asked for it"...  

No, I'm saying you're reinventing the rules. You act like it's weird and crazy that people who've been invited into a parasocial relationship with their fave then speculate about the meaning of her music, as they've been doing for more than 15 years. If Taylor doesn't like it, she's welcome to speak out against it and ask fans not to do it. But don't act like some boundary that wasn't there has been violated.

[Peak Now]

1 minute ago, supaspaz said:

No, I'm saying you're reinventing the rules. You act like it's weird and crazy that people who've been invited into a parasocial relationship with their fave then speculate about the meaning of her music, as they've been doing for more than 15 years. If Taylor doesn't like it, she's welcome to speak out against it and ask fans not to do it. But don't act like some boundary that wasn't there has been violated.

There are many ways to "speculate about the meaning of [someone's] music" without being disrespectful to the person involved. I fully acknowledge this is up to personal boundaries but for me (and I'd like to think most people), using BTTWS as an example, relating to the song because it reminds you of miscarriage/grief (as indeed many people who have had miscarriages did) is not disrespectful, but speculating that the song is about Taylor's hypothetical miscarriage is disrespectful for reasons I shouldn't need to spell out.

 

The logic you're using here, i.e. "if A didn't speak out against B and ask people not to do B then it's perfectly okay to do B", is a little worrying to be honest. I hope the mods here do acknowledge the existence of basic respect and human decency...

 

And we're going off track anyway, do we even agree that that story Deuxmoi posted about miscarriage was weird and invasive? Do we agree that openly alleging that someone had an miscarriage, on a social media account with 2M followers and claims to adhere to some degree of journalistic integrity, is a bad thing? If you already think that Swifties doing the same thing is bad then I don't know why we're having this conversion, and if not I think we're just talking in circles because there is evidently a fundamental disagreement of values at play here.

[cml]

Tree Paine's response was typical white woman hysterics: "trauma and pain." Those words should only be reserved for physical pain, because everyone knows emotional pain doesn't exist.

[Asscatchem]

10 hours ago, supaspaz said:

It is a nasty low blow, but she’s not entirely wrong that it’s very weird how Taylor’s team has already put time and energy into responding publicly to this random piece of gossip than the death of a fan at her concert.

exactly. i thought tree was smarter than this. plus no one in the GP knows who "deuxmoi" is and this rumor is just petty stan twitter talk.

unless taylor is like 2 steps ahead and is setting the stage for Reputation TV.

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on a second thought, tree responding to this does indeed bring more conversation into the whole joe x taylor relationship and keeps people talking and taylor can still be a victim. she might be smarter than we think.

Edited December 2, 2023 by Asscatchem

[supaspaz]

41 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

There are many ways to "speculate about the meaning of [someone's] music" without being disrespectful to the person involved. I fully acknowledge this is up to personal boundaries but for me (and I'd like to think most people), using BTTWS as an example, relating to the song because it reminds you of miscarriage/grief (as indeed many people who have had miscarriages did) is not disrespectful, but speculating that the song is about Taylor's hypothetical miscarriage is disrespectful for reasons I shouldn't need to spell out.

 

The logic you're using here, i.e. "if A didn't speak out against B and ask people not to do B then it's perfectly okay to do B", is a little worrying to be honest. I hope the mods here do acknowledge the existence of basic respect and human decency...

 

And we're going off track anyway, do we even agree that that story Deuxmoi posted about miscarriage was weird and invasive? Do we agree that openly alleging that someone had a miscarriage, on a social media account with 2M followers and claims to adhere to some degree of journalistic integrity, is a bad thing? If you already think that Swifties doing the same thing is bad then I don't know why we're having this conversion, and if not I think we're just talking in circles because there is evidently a fundamental disagreement of values at play here.

I think you are going to have to spell it out because literally what is disrespectful about saying, “wow, this song sounds like it’s about a miscarriage. I wonder if Taylor had a miscarriage”? That was my thought when I heard the song (which I love, by the way)! It’s a very normal reaction to wonder whether a woman who has constantly written songs about her own life might be writing about her own experience.

 

You keep putting words in my mouth. The logic is that Taylor has, for nearly two decades, not only written songs about her relationships, but also invited fans to decode the meaning and inserted secret messages into her work. So, yes, it’s probably set an expectation for her fans about how to receive her music — and her life. If that makes Taylor uncomfortable, then she is, at this point, probably going to have to explicitly reset those boundaries. She did just a few weeks ago with the Gaylor rumors!

 

Anyway, I don’t know why you keep making this about a miscarriage. The post that Tree Paine called out was about a secret marriage.

[Rep2000]

3 hours ago, supaspaz said:

No, I'm saying you're reinventing the rules. You act like it's weird and crazy that people who've been invited into a parasocial relationship with their fave then speculate about the meaning of her music, as they've been doing for more than 15 years. If Taylor doesn't like it, she's welcome to speak out against it and ask fans not to do it. But don't act like some boundary that wasn't there has been violated.

There's "speculation" and there's whatever Deuxmoi is doing right now. She used Taylor's life as content folders to advance her own career, which is disgusting.

Journalists and pr practitioners have code of conduct and ethical standards to uphold, while this unhinged person has none. And yet she has been appearing on talk shows and discussing about Taylor's life with wild details and no proofs, as if she knows them personally! That is not just "speculation" anymore. She literally said it's a "hill I would die on". She is certain on making her falsehoods as "facts" in the mainstream media, not some random tumblr blog fanfiction. 

It's crazy how you as a moderator can't recognise that how insane someone has to be, in order to invade someone's privacies this shamelessly. 

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, cml said:

Tree Paine's response was typical white woman hysterics: "trauma and pain." Those words should only be reserved for physical pain, because everyone knows emotional pain doesn't exist.

Wow, all the sociopaths start to come out of the woodwork I see.