base talk Is Björk more of a legend than Britney?

[Avenger]

These threads really go nowhere lmao. 

[sunbathinganimal]

2 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said:

« I was surprised to wake up this morning to find that far more people voted for Björk as a legend than Britney (75% and 55% in their respective polls). »

 

Are you genuinely surprised that Bjork does not have obsessed haters on ATRL sis ? 

I didn't think she did either, but some of the replies in here are making me reconsider

[ugo]

Bjork is more influential 

[Slayn]

Yeah— no mama 

[LOTF]

In regards to celebrity status and global reach, not in a million years. As an actual musician and composer, yes.

The results in Britney's poll are just because for some weird reason she seems to have a lot of haters here

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

Did Britney sing Declare Independence?

[kataraqueen]

1 hour ago, John Slayne said:

she is. literally everyone who was alive in the 90s knows her. she has the dame cspc as harry styles, y'all need to stop spreading lies about Björk being unknown.

 

but outside of commercial success, Björk is also a musical genius and a respected composer, both of which Britney simply isn't, and I say that as a fan both. Björk is way more talented and influential.

Britney is also an insane visual artist with incredible stage presence and dancing capabilities

 

Britney has composed respected songs and thought of the baby voice, a bona fide staple in pop music

 

Britney then influenced hyperpop and k-pop and every major pop artist that came after her. What the fk has Björk done of that magnitude?

 

Answer's Britney. Next

[Sheep]

Britney could do Vespertine. Bjork could NEVER do Oops!... I Did It Again 

 

[sunbathinganimal]

1 minute ago, Sheep said:

Britney could do Vespertine. Bjork could NEVER do Oops!... I Did It Again 

 

could she though

 

[Dancehall Queen]

Lo que se ve no se pregunta

[superben]

1 hour ago, John Slayne said:

she is. literally everyone who was alive in the 90s knows her. she has the dame cspc as harry styles, y'all need to stop spreading lies about Björk being unknown.

 

but outside of commercial success, Björk is also a musical genius and a respected composer, both of which Britney simply isn't, and I say that as a fan both. Björk is way more talented and influential.

I love Bjork, but this is a lie  And for the people who have heard of her, how many among them can name even one of her songs? 

 

Many composers might still get influenced by Bjork, but Britney and her image/style/brand influence the whole pop world and entertainment industry in the late 90s / early 2000s, and the impact reached far beyond the US.

[Haze]

They inhabit such different spaces that the comparison just will not work. Britney is a blueprint pop star but has always worked within the realm of mainstream pop, a genre that leeches (non derogatively) on the experiments in structure, sound and voice Björk makes. The one is very much a product of the culture, and Britney was/is excellent at embodying that, while the other is a trailblazer of culture. Both are legends though.

[ugo]

3 hours ago, kataraqueen said:

Britney is also an insane visual artist with incredible stage presence and dancing capabilities

 

Britney has composed respected songs and thought of the baby voice, a bona fide staple in pop music

 

Britney then influenced hyperpop and k-pop and every major pop artist that came after her. What the fk has Björk done of that magnitude?

 

Answer's Britney. Next

none of these videos are actually her ideas or work as a director-

 

nope most if not all hits are not even written by her and a lot of them have vocals by myah Marie 

 

nope that's more Janet Jackson or madonna

 

Bjork changed/shifted the whole musical landscape and Britney just was JUST madonna and Janet 2.0 with less longevity. She was great as a celebrity but as an artist she is mediocre.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by ugo

[kataraqueen]

1 minute ago, ugo said:

none of these videos are actually her ideas or work as a director-

 

nope most if not all hits are not even written by her and a lot of them have vocals by myah Marie 

 

nope that more Janet Jackson or madonna

 

Bjork changed/shifted the whole musical landscape and Britney just was JUST madonna and Janet 2.0 with less longevity. She was great as a celebrity but as an artist she is mediocre.

 

 

insane lies LMAO. Enjoy the trolling ig x

[Rev8]

First, just like their polls, one has half the poll votes of the others

in the real world, Bjork would be even less known (for people to say their thoughts) than Britney

 

Second, yall need to stop with the Britney threads just to get a hit thread

 

 

both are very influential

[John Slayne]

29 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

Britney is also an insane visual artist with incredible stage presence and dancing capabilities

 

Britney has composed respected songs and thought of the baby voice, a bona fide staple in pop music

 

Britney then influenced hyperpop and k-pop and every major pop artist that came after her. What the fk has Björk done of that magnitude?

 

Answer's Britney. Next

like i said, i am a Britney fan and she's a great performer, but to think she's more musically or creatively talented than Björk is pure lunacy and delusion. they are both legends, but Björk is obviously the better and more impactful musician and it's not close at all. 

 

33 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

What the fk has Björk done of that magnitude?

see the twitter thread i posted on page 1. literally everyone from 90s grunge bands to Kali Uchis to Madonna to Jay-Z and Travis Scott admire Björk and/or cite her as influence. who else has crossed over genres like this in terms of influence and universal acclaim? who else pushed the boundaries of what music can be while also maintaining mainstream popularity and selling records? again, Britney is a legendary performer and pop culture figure, but nowhere near as accomplished as Björk when it comes to artistry. 

[Jay L]

Lets not pit these two legends against each other

[kataraqueen]

20 minutes ago, John Slayne said:

like i said, i am a Britney fan and she's a great performer, but to think she's more musically or creatively talented than Björk is pure lunacy and delusion. they are both legends, but Björk is obviously the better and more impactful musician and it's not close at all. 

 

see the twitter thread i posted on page 1. literally everyone from 90s grunge bands to Kali Uchis to Madonna to Jay-Z and Travis Scott admire Björk and/or cite her as influence. who else has crossed over genres like this in terms of influence and universal acclaim? who else pushed the boundaries of what music can be while also maintaining mainstream popularity and selling records? again, Britney is a legendary performer and pop culture figure, but nowhere near as accomplished as Björk when it comes to artistry. 

Britney thought of BOMT the video. Britney thought of Toxic the video. Britney chose her songs every single time. She may not have written them, but she clearly had an amazing artistic vision for herself and there's no reason to sell her artistry short to upsell somebody else's.
 

Björk IS a legend in her own right, but grunge is limited to a western audience, meanwhile Britney broke through in Asia and was instantly cemented as a highly influential figure there (and in most big Spanish speaking countries as well)

 

Britney is a legendary artist. You can pretend that anyone was playing with s3xuality like Britney was, but they really weren't. You can pretend that anyone was reinventing herself like she was, but they really weren't. Britney has served as influence for people from several genres, how could she not have tbh. She went from Oops to Slave to Toxic to Gimme More. Björk went from her debut, which was a mixtape, to a remix album, to then 10 years after her debut a proper follow up.
 

Britney managed to achieve more because what she brought to the table needed a machine behind her. She couldn't have achieved what she did without one and nobody could have, but clearly Björk especially couldn't have. Britney brought the vision and the execution. To pretend like this doesn't require immense talent and skill is such a tired way of thinking. Björk is cool. She's not on the level of Britney Spears. imo!

 

It's like saying a designer shouldn't be respected because he didn't make the couch himself. Britney told her writers what she wanted, this is a known fact, and she deserves appreciation for this.

 

I never said Britney was more talented nor will I comment on that because I actually think it's subjective. I would say Björk is one of the most talented producers and song-writers of our lifetime, lowkey. I do think Britney simply has more talents.

[kataraqueen]

Like I hate that I have to write this against Björk so I think I'll stop commenting and say that this comparison is wildly unneeded. Björk has an insanely reputable and innovative sound and career, which should be respected in all its glory. That's the last thing I'll say in this thread x

[Alexz]

1 hour ago, ugo said:

Bjork is more influential 

She isn't. Björk is a legend because of what she's done but she's not more influential than Britney since Britney incluenced the entire mainstream.

[aesthetic bih]

3 hours ago, Afterglow said:

I truly believed if you lined everyone you know up and asked them to list 3 bjork songs off the top of their head, they wouldn't be able to do it. 

That's cuz Bjork is not commercial and pop

 

Bjork is considered a legend in the music scene and among music connoisseurs because her music is boundary-pushing unique. However, Britney is a legend because of how well-recognized her name is and how successful her career went

 

I'd say it really depends on the perspective, but I'll choose Britney since she's more globally known

[ugo]

1 hour ago, Alexz said:

She isn't. Björk is a legend because of what she's done but she's not more influential than Britney since Britney incluenced the entire mainstream.

That's not britney that's more derivative of madonna's work