discussion Taylor's relationship with Joe Alwyn was hanging by a thread in 2021.

[MidnightsAtPeace]

According to Jack Antonoff's new Instagram story, You're Losing Me which is a breakup song, was written in 2021, barely a week before her birthday.

Turned out they either broke up and got back together after a couple of months or she put up with him for another year or so before they officially called it quits.

 

This whole thing makes the song so much sadder. What do you think???

Edited November 30, 2023 by MidnightsAtPeace

[Cruel Summer]

I honestly think this has been evident for a while now. Half of Midnights is just a straightforward breakup album and significant parts of Evermore feel less like fictional stories and more like actual lived feelings with a thin veil to obscure the subject (see: Tolerate It). I definitely buy that they had a long drawn-out breakup or one or two instances of breaking up and getting back together.

[Sabrina Carpenter]

it’s sad that you can feel that way and still stay in the relationship for years 

[Edibles.]

Duh. You just don’t write evermore and expect to be in a perfectly fine relationship.

[peachpop]

I mean....I think their relationship has had issues all along. Reputaton has love songs yes, but DWOHT... Cornelia street? She has a lot of fears he is going to leave her. Her joe albums definitely explore a lot of conflict within the relationship. Not that you have to be happy all the time.

[Geraldine]

i like taylor but WHO CARES about this info in almost 2024

[Blue.]

4 minutes ago, Geraldine said:

i like taylor but WHO CARES about this info in almost 2024

Music is art and while I’d agree tabloid fodder is usually just that, in this case this is information that recontextualizes Midnight as an album, so it does matter.

[vuelve88]

She’s a strong Latina, and Joe never really appreciated that. She seemed to be more reclusive because of him. 
 

Edited November 30, 2023 by vuelve88

[DirtyPony87]

I remember saying along these lines - that their inevitable breakup was very apparent in her art - in the breakup thread here, and I got dragged by like, half a dozen Swifties. 💀

 

 

[Vespertine]

Toe was a big fat sham and cupcake Swifties fell for it hook line and sinker while frothing at the mouth about how they were secretly married with a secret quarantine baby, all done while also supposedly writing perfect love songs together  

 

Listen to folklore, evermore, and ME!dnights again and realize She was involved in some sort of love triangle and affair. The “teenage love triangle” was made up after the fact to provide a narrative for the album. She wrote Cardigan before anything else, and it’s literally set around Her neighborhood of NYC.

 

Someday Swifties will wake up to truth 🙏🏻

[sciencemagic]

2 hours ago, Vespertine said:

Toe was a big fat sham and cupcake Swifties fell for it hook line and sinker while frothing at the mouth about how they were secretly married with a secret quarantine baby, all done while also supposedly writing perfect love songs together  

 

Listen to folklore, evermore, and ME!dnights again and realize She was involved in some sort of love triangle and affair. The “teenage love triangle” was made up after the fact to provide a narrative for the album. She wrote Cardigan before anything else, and it’s literally set around Her neighborhood of NYC.

 

Someday Swifties will wake up to truth 🙏🏻

What are some examples of this? I know there's the line about the High Line but that begins in Chelesea and doesn't she live in Tribeca? 

[Bindi]

It was pretty obvious since half of midnights is break-up songs. 

[Vespertine]

8 hours ago, sciencemagic said:

What are some examples of this? I know there's the line about the High Line but that begins in Chelesea and doesn't she live in Tribeca? 

"To kiss in cars and downtown bars / Was all we needed"

"Vintage tee, brand new phone / High heels on cobblestone / When you are young they assume you know nothing"

 

Tribeca is full of cobblestone streets (including the street She lives on). It's also not a far walk from the High Line -- Chelsea to Tribeca or Soho is a very enjoyable walk.

 

 

For me, Cardigan has always painted a picture of 1989 era Taylor in NYC, going out with the ~squad~ etc. "When you are young they assume you know nothing" solidifies that -- remember all the thinkpieces about Her at that time, painting Her as a vapid "Nazi Barbie." (Bonus: the original voice memo lyrics "sneak into my birdcage" recall the visual of Her in a birdcage in the LWYMMD video, which to me feels like more proof that Cardigan isn't "fictional.") 

 

Speaking of the squad, in Champagne Problems:

"How evergreen our group of friends / don't think we'll say that word again" 

 

Could easily be interpreted to be "squad," which truly haunted her in 2014-2016. folklore/evermore are full of things like this that make it feel like the songs are real stories with the added layer of "characters."