base talk If there was no playlisting at all how would the hot 100 look?

[Distantconstellation]

If spotify eliminated playlists would the hot 100 look drastically different?

[Ron Ng]

Dua will be 29-OUT

[poki]

All the pop girlies would have to actually go outside and promote. 

[Into The Void]

I'm afraid some songs won't chart. Thats why if u have a label why won't they promote you. 

[Junipero]

I swear, playlisting is like the modern day radio.

I think new songs released on Friday will get the most attention as places like YouTube, Spotify have a weekly "new music" section. People would have to promote more; perhaps be forced to perform for some Spotify awards show.

[Achilles.]

The Christmas takeover wouldn’t be so extreme and some of them wouldn’t smash as hard. 

[ninetales]

The "real" hits will show up. Atleast, listeners will have to search a particular song to stream. 

[BrandNewBrandon]

Well, that would hit the ones with the largest playlist reach the most: https://www.viberate.com/music-charts/100-artists-with-the-biggest-spotify-playlist-reach/

 

So Taylor Swift would nosedive, Dua would as well and so would The Weeknd and Ed Sheeran. It's funny Dua is the only one people mentioning when Taylor is above her with well over 50 million. 

 

What would happen? Songs with large amount of weeks on the Hot 100 would decrease their hold in the Top 10, Taylor would probably not chart as many albums since even one song from an album added to a gazillion playlists causes that album's units to increase etc. 

 

Artists would therefore have to promote their music regularly, perhaps rely on more discounts and remixes, TikTok. They would also have to work harder overall. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by BrandNewBrandon

[Johnny Jacobs]

[BrandNewBrandon]

The fact that Adele "only" has 233 million in playlist reach but effortlessly smashed with Easy On Me just based on demand from the GP is more telling that she's still globally a massive name in music. 

[spree]

31 minutes ago, ninetales said:

The "real" hits will show up. 

yep 100%.  I'd be here for it. 

[Distantconstellation]

14 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Well, that would hit the ones with the largest playlist reach the most: https://www.viberate.com/music-charts/100-artists-with-the-biggest-spotify-playlist-reach/

 

So Taylor Swift would nosedive, Dua would as well and so would The Weeknd and Ed Sheeran. It's funny Dua is the only one people mentioning when Taylor is above her with well over 50 million. 

 

What would happen? Songs with large amount of weeks on the Hot 100 would decrease their hold in the Top 10, Taylor would probably not chart as many albums since even one song from an album added to a gazillion playlists causes that album's units to increase etc. 

 

Artists would therefore have to promote their music regularly, perhaps rely on more discounts and remixes, TikTok. They would also have to work harder overall. 

Sounds good to me then. Get rid of playlists. This will force artists to promote and be more active. 

[MissedTheTrain]

23 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

So Taylor Swift would nosedive,

 

What would happen? Songs with large amount of weeks on the Hot 100 would decrease their hold in the Top 10, Taylor would probably not chart as many albums since even one song from an album added to a gazillion playlists causes that album's units to increase etc. 

 

 

Taylor's physical sales are extremely strong, well above her peers.  Her radio play is also strong.  She's had songs randomly smash on Spotify over the past few years without playlisting. I think you're overestimating what playlists do for her.

[family.guy123]

bUt rAido IS FrUDADUALNT 

[family.guy123]

ctrl +f morgan wallen  no wonder he does so much better on apple music

 

(prepared to have egg on my face cause i dunno if apple music has playlisting and im not checking)

[BrandNewBrandon]

11 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said:

Taylor's physical sales are extremely strong, well above her peers.  Her radio play is also strong.  She's had songs randomly smash on Spotify over the past few years without playlisting. I think you're overestimating what playlists do for her.

Yeah but they do still have an effect. This isn't only about Taylor. Every artist would decrease in streams. 

 

Btw, love that Kelly song. Such a good track. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by BrandNewBrandon

[Klein]

53 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Well, that would hit the ones with the largest playlist reach the most: https://www.viberate.com/music-charts/100-artists-with-the-biggest-spotify-playlist-reach/

Does this count "charts" playlists too? 

[alejandreaux]

Dua would fall and CupcakKe would take her spot

[Ewan Chaos]

People ask for this, but also complain about TikTok songs mucking up the Hot 100 for the past couple of years... well it'd probably be double the TikTok songs on the charts and then a bunch of old songs, also likely brought back up from TikTok.

[loveisdead9582]

We’d have artists that actually promoted and toured. Streaming farms have proven that streaming itself can’t be entirely relied upon. 

[Anti-Hero]

1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Well, that would hit the ones with the largest playlist reach the most: https://www.viberate.com/music-charts/100-artists-with-the-biggest-spotify-playlist-reach/

 

So Taylor Swift would nosedive, Dua would as well and so would The Weeknd and Ed Sheeran. It's funny Dua is the only one people mentioning when Taylor is above her with well over 50 million. 

 

What would happen? Songs with large amount of weeks on the Hot 100 would decrease their hold in the Top 10, Taylor would probably not chart as many albums since even one song from an album added to a gazillion playlists causes that album's units to increase etc. 

 

Artists would therefore have to promote their music regularly, perhaps rely on more discounts and remixes, TikTok. They would also have to work harder overall. 

Taylor has the most demand, its just your delulu mind saying she would nosedive 

[ccfan007]

Talent would actually win 

[Taylena]

1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Well, that would hit the ones with the largest playlist reach the most: https://www.viberate.com/music-charts/100-artists-with-the-biggest-spotify-playlist-reach/

 

So Taylor Swift would nosedive, Dua would as well and so would The Weeknd and Ed Sheeran. It's funny Dua is the only one people mentioning when Taylor is above her with well over 50 million. 

 

What would happen? Songs with large amount of weeks on the Hot 100 would decrease their hold in the Top 10, Taylor would probably not chart as many albums since even one song from an album added to a gazillion playlists causes that album's units to increase etc. 

 

Artists would therefore have to promote their music regularly, perhaps rely on more discounts and remixes, TikTok. They would also have to work harder overall. 

 

Now do the ratio between Taylor's daily streams to playlist reach and compare them to Dua Lipa's numbers. 

Taylor received 95M streams yesterday from 594M playlist reach, which translates to a ratio of 6.25:1, or in other words, Taylor needs 6.25M in playlist reach to achieve 1M streams. Now let's do Dua Lipa - 535M playlist reach to 14M daily streams - a ratio of 38.2:1. What this means is that Dua needs 6x more playlist reach (38.2 vs 6.25) to receive the same streams as Taylor. This is not something that you want to drag Taylor for while mentioning Dua at the same time knowing that her ratio is a joke. 

 

[Prodigal Self]

5 minutes ago, Taylena said:

 

Now do the ratio between Taylor's daily streams to playlist reach and compare them to Dua Lipa's numbers. 

Taylor received 95M streams yesterday from 594M playlist reach, which translates to a ratio of 6.25:1, or in other words, Taylor needs 6.25M in playlist reach to achieve 1M streams. Now let's do Dua Lipa - 535M playlist reach to 14M daily streams - a ratio of 38.2:1. What this means is that Dua needs 6x more playlist reach (38.2 vs 6.25) to receive the same streams as Taylor. This is not something that you want to drag Taylor for while mentioning Dua at the same time knowing that her ratio is a joke. 

 

They literally said both would be affected Swifties on this site are as bad as the rest of them cause

[Cloröx]

People actually believe that Taylor will nosedive?