mystery Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 Unrest in Dublin: Gardaí say streets 'mainly calm' after vehicles on fire, shops looted 1
Shelter Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 3 kids were stabbed today. This is the aftermath of that. People are sick of it. 1
mystery Posted November 23, 2023 Author Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Shelter said: 3 kids were stabbed today. This is the aftermath of that. People are sick of it. It is a riot not a protest. If you think most of these people care about the stabbing you are sorely mistaken, these riots are an excuse to vandalize and destroy by hooligan youth that have been wrecking the city center for quite a bit now. Not to mention racist crowds that have gathered as well. They've been breaking into shops, destroying public transport and attacking people that have nothing to do with anything. If people should be protesting anything it is the extremely unsafe atmosphere of the entire city due to weak Garda presence and the free reign of muggers. The biggest issue Dublin has is youth out of control, not immigrants. Edited November 23, 2023 by mystery 7 2 1
Shelter Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, mystery said: It is a riot not a protest. If you think most of these people care about the stabbing you are sorely mistaken, these riots are an excuse to vandalize and destroy by hooligan youth that have been wrecking the city center for quite a bit now. Not to mention racist crowds that have gathered as well. They've been breaking into shops, destroying public transport and attacking people that have nothing to do with anything. If people should be protesting anything it is the extremely unsafe atmosphere of the entire city due to weak Garda presence and the free reign of muggers. The biggest issue Dublin has is youth out of control, not immigrants. Well that’s obvious. Government ain’t listening with a normal protest, so riots was going to happen. It’s happening in other countries, it was only a matter of time before it started in Ireland. Dublin is a kip but this has been building for years. The government have not done **** to help make Dublin a better or safe place, and they certainly aren’t listening to people not wanting more immigrants. This won’t be the last of it. 1 1
OBEY Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Shelter said: 3 kids were stabbed today. This is the aftermath of that. People are sick of it. omg... :(
glitch Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) Not people trying to call this a protest when someone is clearly laughing in one of those videos I wish I could say I was shocked at this behaviour but far right nutters are everywhere you look in most of Europe at the moment. I guess it's easy to blame immigration for all of the problems people are facing, but it's obviously not that simple Edited November 23, 2023 by glitch 9
Odette Violet Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 This is horrible. That man laughing, vile
AMIT Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 they should be destroying banks and looting megastores instead 3 1 1
holyground13 Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 I was wondering if this would be posted in ATRL. I live in Dublin, it's really sad to see unfold. 1 hour ago, mystery said: It is a riot not a protest. If you think most of these people care about the stabbing you are sorely mistaken, these riots are an excuse to vandalize and destroy by hooligan youth that have been wrecking the city center for quite a bit now. Not to mention racist crowds that have gathered as well. They've been breaking into shops, destroying public transport and attacking people that have nothing to do with anything. If people should be protesting anything it is the extremely unsafe atmosphere of the entire city due to weak Garda presence and the free reign of muggers. The biggest issue Dublin has is youth out of control, not immigrants. Basically this. Luckily, I'm seeing a lot of people on social media condemning the riots and reminding everyone to stay safe (especially immigrants). Then again, a lot of my friends are young and queer so it makes sense that my feed is covering with people responding in the right way. 3 1
abelfenty Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, AMIT said: they should be destroying banks and looting megastores instead They shouldn’t be destroying anything 11
AMIT Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, abelfenty said: They shouldn’t be destroying anything I disagree 2 3
Joyride Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, holyground13 said: I was wondering if this would be posted in ATRL. I live in Dublin, it's really sad to see unfold. Basically this. Luckily, I'm seeing a lot of people on social media condemning the riots and reminding everyone to stay safe (especially immigrants). Then again, a lot of my friends are young and queer so it makes sense that my feed is covering with people responding in the right way. could you elaborate a little, I would like to have a little more context. Why is this happening? 1
mystery Posted November 24, 2023 Author Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, holyground13 said: I was wondering if this would be posted in ATRL. I live in Dublin, it's really sad to see unfold. Basically this. Luckily, I'm seeing a lot of people on social media condemning the riots and reminding everyone to stay safe (especially immigrants). Then again, a lot of my friends are young and queer so it makes sense that my feed is covering with people responding in the right way. Living in Dublin as well, thankfully a bit further from the center. Glad to see most on my feed have a leveled response to this as well. The calls to attack foreigners are very frightening honestly considering there are so many of us here. Though there is most definitely a racist aspect to it as well. Edited November 24, 2023 by mystery 3
Take Me Apart Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, AMIT said: I disagree Ok keyboard gangster
AMIT Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, Take Me Apart said: Ok keyboard gangster don't quote me right wing genocide supporter 1 1 1
Tropez Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Taylena said: Is this the so called wealthiest country in the world? Most of the country still looks like **** and the government only cares about helping rich people launder their money. Ireland is not the wealthiest country in the world. It’s a tax haven which inflates the wealth.
holyground13 Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, Joyride said: could you elaborate a little, I would like to have a little more context. Why is this happening? I'll make sure to be careful with what I say as a lot happened today and although there have been moments leading to this riot, I never would have expected it to manifest itself in such a way. Like many European countries, there has been a growth in the far right in Ireland. The government here is quite centrist: socially quite left wing but economically they have been failing Irish people for a number of years. The price of rent and cost of living is high, and there also has been a drug problem in Dublin City for a number of years. The government tends to appease the wealthy people living here and also appease multinational companies. Some multinational companies owe us billions in tax, but the government let them off with this tax so that they will remain situated here. Alas, many Irish people feel neglected, and for some people; that has transpired into hating immigrants - blaming immigrants for "taking all of the Irish people's jobs and opportunities." What is forgotten is that Irish people have emigrated to many countries themselves and that there is of course room for immigrants here, it's just that the government is failing middle to lower-class people as a whole. There was a stabbing of a tourist here a few months ago and a stabbing near the airport. Both are very sad and unfortunate incidents and probably should have been dealt with better by the government. For the airport attack, I read a source that says it was a foreign national that was the suspect and for the first one, I'm not sure. Then today, a stabbing happened which resulted in three very young kids (aged about 5) being attacked as well as an adult woman and a man. It is believed that the suspect is a foreign national, but it is also being reported that another immigrant (a Brazilian man) was the first to counter-attack the suspect, which would make him a hero. This led to what transpired on the streets: the far-right looting and rioting in the streets in the belief that that symbolizes "Irish people taking their country back". Their riot today was completely nonsensical: they attacked Gardaí (the name of our police) even though our police have nothing to do with this situation, set two buses on fire, and looted many shops including a runner / shoe shop with lots of Nike and Adidas - which literally proves that their motives for this riot have nothing to do with the safety of children. I'm really heartbroken about everything that happened today. I'm sad for all the victims of these attacks and their families, especially these kids and their classmates who have experienced such a traumatic thing at such a young age. There must be something done by the government about these attacks, the kids of Ireland must be safe. What I'm not sure - people have proposed more police being on the watch in the city, but I'm unsure if that's the best / only solution - I'll have to do more research myself. I'm also very heartbroken for all immigrants living in Ireland - many of my friends are immigrants and I love them - no one should fear for their safety. Especially when there are rumours that the far-right intend to continue past tonight. As I said in my previous post, I'm glad that on my social media, people are standing up against the far right and looking out for each other, but it's difficult to know the wide scope of how people in the country feel when social media can sometimes only feed you the perspectives that you wish to hear. 4 1
holyground13 Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, mystery said: Living in Dublin as well, thankfully a bit further from the center. Glad to see most on my feed have a leveled response to this as well. The calls to attack foreigners are very frightening honestly considering there are so many of us here. Though there is most definitely a racist aspect to it as well. 100% I agree, I'm also a bit further from the city centre luckily. There's definitely racism involved. Hopefully the level response can cause this to calm down. 2
Kitty Kat Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 One of the main question is how the situation and the far-right manifests itself into political discourse from here on out. The riots were a mixture of the far-right alongside teenagers who are known for causing chaos in Dublin and across the country. Simply shameful carry on. I read that the Luas was also set on fire... The far-right in Ireland has not been adequately dealt with. There were many cases where the far-right attempts to harass people at libraries, and even their own 'mini attempt' at a Jan 6th a couple of weeks back when they tried to prevent the members of the Dáil from leaving, holding up guillotines and what not. The far right are a disgusting blemish on Irish society, which I truly hope does not transpire itself into any political force. It is harder to create a far-right in Ireland's context thanks to its previous history as a colony and anti-colonialist state, but with disinformation campaigns targeting the island, as well as migration numbers being inflated in order to continue to fearmonger the public, this sort of behaviour is inevitable thanks to the complete disservice that has gone on from officials. As the mixed son of an immigrant myself, it is terrifying to me to hear this rhetoric manifest itself on the streets of Ireland's capital. Yes, many migrants and refugees have come to Ireland in the past couple of years; there were 140,000 between April 2022 and April 2023 alone, many of which came from Ukraine. The disinformation campaigns have weaponised this number in several communities in order to make it appear as if Ireland is 'under attack', the same playbook as we see in other places. My feeling for now is that the far right will continue to fail to manifest itself as its own political party, but that Fine Gael will become a more anti-migration party after the next election once SF/FF/SD go into power. 3
KOMH Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Taylena said: Is this the so called wealthiest country in the world? Most of the country still looks like **** and the government only cares about helping rich people launder their money. Dublin is nowhere near like the rest of Ireland. We're still the 3rd safest country in the world per the Global Peace Index and no, the country most definitely does not look like ****. This has been the most brutal attack in Ireland in decades and this is a simple case of far right scum using any excuse to wreak havoc.
KOMH Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moloko Plus said: This will continue to happen across Europe as governments act oblivious to the negative effects of mass migration of MENA men in particular. People are fed up. Governments need to figure this **** out before even larger swaths of people feel compelled to join “far right” movements and ideologies. The guards have yet to disclose the nationality of the perpetrator. As far as I could make out the knackers who set the vehicles alight were gangs of teenagers with the sole purpose of wreaking havoc and sowing division. Should go without saying that they do not represent the majority of Irish people. Edited November 24, 2023 by KOMH
watermelonshake Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 I don't live in Dublin but my boyfriend does. Makes me sad to see this, destroying critical infrastructure like the luas is shameful. Why are there not riots every time a white Irish person stabs someone? It's not exactly a rare occurrence! Ireland has SUCH a problem with feral scummy youth, I've never seen anything like it. There ARE issues in that I think the government took in too many Ukrainian refugees without any actual plan on how to house them, resulting in them clogging up all of the hotels which isn't good for them and it's not good for tourism. My mom is coming to visit me in June and it's next to impossible to find a hotel at a reasonable price. But that's not on the refugees that's on the government, blame them. I'm not from Ireland originally but I suppose I'd be okay with these people because I don't "look" foreign and I'm not a refugee. 1
K$Ellie Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 the xenophobia here is so ****** up when almost every irish person i know has relatives abroad but god forbid someone moves to ireland, especially if they look or sound foreign 1
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