on the line Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Outlaws said: Once again, bless her I guess... It's not about the victim, it's about her of course. You're right. We clearly see your agenda is about Taylor and not the victim and why your words are disingenuous and, frankly, despicable. 3 4
k4rmabutterfly Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: What questionable behavior is that, exactly? Not publicly yelling from the rooftops the specific details of how she’s trying to handle the situation on her end? It’s not like the family have come out and said “Taylor Swift refused to help us.” People are jumping to portray her as a villain here over a legitimate tragedy when they literally have no way of knowing everything about the situation. You do not know whether Taylor Swift or her team have reached out to help or how they have done so. I do not know whether they have. Neither of us know what they can and cannot do because of any ongoing investigations into the incident. None of us will know until and unless someone directly involved in the situation actually says something about her degree of involvement. Automatically assuming that Taylor and her team are privately just doing nothing just because she’s somehow a greedy, selfish person who doesn’t care about what happened, just to make digs at her and her fans over a legitimate tragedy, is weird. I know you don’t understand Portuguese so you can easily misinformed, but the family actually has said there was no contact from Taylor or her team on the past few days on a Brazilian tv show yesterday, that’s why the fans and public helped the family today. Edited November 20, 2023 by k4rmabutterfly 2 1
4Real Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 The fact that Taylor's team didn't immediately offer support to Ana's family is shameful. 1 6
CaptainMusic Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, Carry My Heart said: All funds have already been covered. Truly incredible initiative by the fans! Hopefully Taylor still pulls through and helps out however she can. It's jarring that she missed her window to reach out (unless she has and it isn't public yet) Great that they were able to get the funds together but yeah Taylor should’ve done this by herself, she’s a literal billionaire. Hopefully she still gives them some money. 5
Outlaws Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, on the line said: You're right. We clearly see your agenda is about Taylor and not the victim and why your words are disingenuous and, frankly, despicable. Oh, please. Tell that to the mother that's suffering right now (and that thank God at least the fans that were mad at the situation were kind enough to give her the money she needs). 1
Daddy Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, on the line said: Stan wars over someone's death is ******* trashy ass thing to do. Do better. It's called accountability, look it up. We came so hard for Travis after Astroworld but now Taylor is the victim? That woman and their family are the victims here. 13 3 3
conquxror Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 No one is blaming Taylor for Ana’s death. No one. People were just asking Taylor, a billionaire, for help, hoping that she would be empathetic of a (literally) poor fan who died at her concert and whose body her family cannot afford to bring back home. Fans are just asking for Taylor to side with them, but it’s looking like she’ll side with money and remain silent. 6 2 2
FENTY. Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 The whole situation has been handled poorly by Taylor Nation Anyways I was wondering do yall always get travel insurance even if it’s just for 3-4 days?
on the line Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Outlaws said: Oh, please. Tell that to the mother that's suffering right now (and that thank God at least the fans that were mad at the situation were kind enough to give her the money she needs). You're grandstanding even harder. You're intital reply was about Swifties. Not the victim, not the family. Hard stop. You're done here. 3
on the line Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Daddy said: It's called accountability, look it up. We came so hard for Travis after Astroworld but now Taylor is the victim? That woman and their family are the victims here. And what is Taylor accountable for? Throwing water to fans bc the stadium refused to do so? Get a ******* grip. Your ugliness is so transparent. 5 3
Arrows Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Way too many conclusions being drawn in here
Daddy Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, on the line said: And what is Taylor accountable for? Throwing water to fans bc the stadium refused to do so? Get a ******* grip. Your ugliness is so transparent. Well, her name is on it. That's how this works. Like I said, we all came for Travis so people coming for the headliner of that tour isn't suprising. And it's more the (non-) actions after the fact. She didn't gave a **** and we can see that. 1 3 1
Outlaws Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, on the line said: You're grandstanding even harder. You're intital reply was about Swifties. Not the victim, not the family. Hard stop. You're done here. My first reply was about how out of touch her and her team are. And you're acting DERANGED. Y'all can gang up and like/deslike whatever you want but that doesn't change the fact she should get CALLED OUT.
DougAF Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Daddy said: It's called accountability, look it up. We came so hard for Travis after Astroworld but now Taylor is the victim? That woman and their family are the victims here. Travis was literally inciting the crowd surging while Taylor was throwing water and yelling at venue staff to provide assistance and water to sections Get a ******* grip 1
kexin Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 While I do think Taylor will reach out to them privately, and have no doubt she wouldn’t, we’re not entitled to knowing every single development that’s happening in this situation.
Edu Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 so apparently the fan died DURING the concert and not before like taylor said? 1
State of Grace. Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) T4F aside (because they're 100% responsible and should actually pay for the funeral and everything, the least they could do), I feel like Taylor is only avoiding it because any sort of financial compensation could be used against her and considered an admission of guilt. Now I'm not really a law ****** and stan goggles are definitely off, but this is sooo unlike her though. The only logical reason I can think of is her & her team avoiding a potential lawsuit. Yall really need to stop throwing around Travis Scott comparisons cause it's not the same circumstances at all. That said, it's still really terrible and I hope Taylor approaches the girl's family privately at least. Edited November 20, 2023 by State of Grace. 5
Klein Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Maybe there's a middle between Taylor did nothing wrong and she's the second coming of Satan in this situation. Come on. I'm very surprised (and disappointed honestly) that she didn't reach out to the family yet and paid for the body transportation and covered funeral costs. As a fan, that's seems so out of character for her and it's honestly weird. As of now, my only explanation on why she wouldn't have already took care of every expenses and more is that there are some behind the scenes shitstorm that she has to oversee. Also, we didn't know about the body of Ana not being returned to her family until this morning (in my timezone) I think, so it's extremely likely that just like us, she didn't know, otherwise that would have become a top priority. That said, I really hope she and her team reach out to the family soon and that we get some kind of explanation on why it didn't happen sooner. Because otherwise, that would be really disappointing on her part. 2 5
kexin Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Edu said: so apparently the fan died DURING the concert and not before like taylor said? The fan died before Sabrina hit the stage.
Edu Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, State of Grace. said: T4F aside (because they're 100% responsible and should actually pay for the funeral and everything, the least they could do), I feel like Taylor is only avoiding it because any sort of financial compensation could be used against her and considered an admission of guilt. Now I'm not really a law ****** and stan goggles are definitely off, but this is sooo unlike her though. The only logical reason I can think of her/her team avoiding a potential lawsuit. Yall really need to stop throwing around Travis Scott comparisons cause it's not the same circumstances at all. That said, it's still really terrible and I hope Taylor approaches the girl's family privately at least. right, travis is known for inciting this destructive behavior during his concerts while it's a first for taylor
Edu Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 wtf https://twitter.com/taylornation13/status/1726628611426550098
liquiddiamonds Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kexin said: The fan died before Sabrina hit the stage. Ana died during Cruel Summer. Her friend was on tv yesterday detailing the situation. We still don’t understand why the story was framed differently on Taylor’s letter, but could be conflicting information from sources, since it had just happened. It’s been used against her, though Edited November 20, 2023 by liquiddiamonds
kexin Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said: Ana died during Cruel Summer. Her friend was on tv yesterday detailing the situation My mistake, thank you! it’s often easy to have misinformation being brought around when it’s a developing story 1
Cruel Summer Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said: Ana died during Cruel Summer. Her friend was on tv yesterday detailing the situation. We still don’t understand why the story was framed differently on Taylor’s letter, but could be conflicting information from sources, since it had just happened. It’s been used against her, though What we’d heard at the time that Taylor’s letter came out was that she passed out during Sabrina’s set, was taken to the hospital, and passed away there. Taylor was likely operating on similar information at the time, and more information came to light later. 1
latingrl2005 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 People here are acting real dumb. This is an active criminal investigation. Any comments or attempts to give money to the family can be seen as an attempt to pay them off. Taylor's team is in a foreign country and will need to be get legal help there. 4
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