video clip [Middle Ground] LGBTQ vs Ex-LGBTQ

[Take Me Apart]

 

[Rider]

"The bible says"

 

 

[jesus del rey]

I was also an ex-LGBTQI+ for 5 minutes after I heard Stupid Love and You Need to Calm Down

Edited November 19, 2023 by jesus del rey

[MALAMENTE]

Ya cannot be ex LGBT+. Next

[St. Charles]

Religion did a number on their brains.  Something about it rewires the chemical make-up. I know people whose entire personality and egos changed after becoming super religious. Scary ****.

[Virgos Groove]

Middle Ground directors need to be arrested for their crimes.

[Strawberry Bubble]

LGBT vs. religious person trying to deny himself that he is LGBTtoo 

[DamianSolo]

I feel so sorry for people like that.

[theoghon]

38 minutes ago, jesus del rey said:

I was also an ex-LGBTQI+ for 5 minutes after until I heard Stupid Love and You Need to Calm Down

Edited November 19, 2023 by theoghon

[Jotham]

Jubilee needs to stop platforming thee bozos

[Anthinos]

I hate videos like this. You can't be Ex-Gay and there shouldn't be any debate about it. The people who made this are disgusting.

[Carla Rosón]

I mean assuming that sexual "fluidity" (that so many progressive and LGBT love to preach is a thing) is in fact, real. Then you could be ex-LGBT at some point.

[jesus del rey]

6 minutes ago, theoghon said:

[glitch]

Can the basement they run j*bilee out of just collapse already

[Katamari]

Lmao :popcorn: 

 

 

arent most these  ex gays just bi folk tho    
 

 

[Katamari]

Also do these ex gays get their wake up call at some point  like are they still like that in their 80s

 

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[Queen.]

47 minutes ago, DamianSolo said:

I feel so sorry for people like that.

And why? Just because that they don't want to live that lifestyle anymore?

[Bloodflowers.]

This is gonna be hilarious, let me catch this video before I go to sleep

[DamianSolo]

5 hours ago, Queen. said:

And why? Just because that they don't want to live that lifestyle anymore?

I've, personally, never viewed being LGBT as having a particular lifestyle. I don't view myself as having a particularly "different" lifestyle. I'm just a guy who likes guys, which I've accepted about myself—for better and for worse. That's not something that I can change, nor do I feel like it's something that can be changed. I feel like those who do claim to have changed their sexuality are ignoring the truth about themselves and, ultimately, are engaging in self-hatred—especially with how they speak as someone who's, so-called, ex-LGBT. It's more worrying than anything, to the point where I do feel sorry for them.

[Queen.]

1 hour ago, DamianSolo said:

I've, personally, never viewed being LGBT as having a particular lifestyle. I don't view myself as having a particularly "different" lifestyle. I'm just a guy who likes guys, which I've accepted about myself—for better and for worse. That's not something that I can change, nor do I feel like it's something that can be changed. I feel like those who do claim to have changed their sexuality are ignoring the truth about themselves and, ultimately, are engaging in self-hatred—especially with how they speak as someone who's, so-called, ex-LGBT. It's more worrying than anything, to the point where I do feel sorry for them.

I would say something but I feel I would get banned even when I don't come off offensive. But I will say, why say someone that loved the same sex before can't change? It doesn't mean they are "hiding their truth." They probably didn't find what they wanted in the same-sex. People do change their ways as they mature or found something or someone that may have changed their view on their life.

 

I wouldn't think it's self-hatred when they used to be an "ex"-LGBT. If you ok with being gay and don't want to change that, that's your view but I think others have their own way of living and we should respect that choice whether they want to be with the same-sex or opposite-sex. 

[DamianSolo]

4 hours ago, Queen. said:

I would say something but I feel I would get banned even when I don't come off offensive. But I will say, why say someone that loved the same sex before can't change? It doesn't mean they are "hiding their truth." They probably didn't find what they wanted in the same-sex. People do change their ways as they mature or found something or someone that may have changed their view on their life.

 

I wouldn't think it's self-hatred when they used to be an "ex"-LGBT. If you ok with being gay and don't want to change that, that's your view but I think others have their own way of living and we should respect that choice whether they want to be with the same-sex or opposite-sex. 

I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm talking about sexual orientation, someone being attracted to someone of the same sex. I very much agree that someone can decide they don't want to have sex with someone of the same sex or romantically even love that person, but that's different than saying that someone who was physically and romantically attracted to the same sex is no longer so. At that point, all they're doing is suppressing their sexuality—not genuinely being ex-LGBT.

 

People experiment all of the time, for one reason or another. And it's one thing for them to determine for themselves that they're not attracted to the same-sex or as turned on as they thought they'd be by such experiences. But I don't believe that someone who was gay all of their life and attracted to the same sex is no longer turned on by the same sex, to the point of them no longer being gay.

 

I genuinely believe that people who claim to be ex-gay are still attracted to the same-sex, whether they want to admit to it or not. Sexuality is not a switch that can be flipped on or off, one way or another, but it's something that people can choose not to act on. And I think that's more so what's happening here with people who claim to be ex-gay.

 

Here's a great article that explains this topic further, "The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity."

[popmusicisdead]

16 hours ago, MALAMENTE said:

Ya cannot be ex LGBT+. Next

 

[Anthinos]

15 hours ago, Queen. said:

And why? Just because that they don't want to live that lifestyle anymore?

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. We don't chose to be gay, we are gay and no, we can't change that. Are you a straight woman? Why don't you become a lesbian and try it out? What you're saying here is that people can change their sexuality. I guess there is nothing wrong with conversion therapy then. Ask gay people in countries like Iran what they think about your suggestion. People who are "Ex-gay" are either super religious people with mental health problems or straight people who used to experiment but were never gay. People who are homosexual can't change their sexuality and opinions like yours shouldn't be tolerated anymore. What's up with the double standard? Homophobia is just as bad as racism, antisemitism etc. Straight people should learn how to mind their own business and leave us alone. 

[Queen.]

8 hours ago, DamianSolo said:

I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm talking about sexual orientation, someone being attracted to someone of the same sex. I very much agree that someone can decide they don't want to have sex with someone of the same sex or romantically even love that person, but that's different than saying that someone who was physically and romantically attracted to the same sex is no longer so. At that point, all they're doing is suppressing their sexuality—not genuinely being ex-LGBT.

 

People experiment all of the time, for one reason or another. And it's one thing for them to determine for themselves that they're not attracted to the same-sex or as turned on as they thought they'd be by such experiences. But I don't believe that someone who was gay all of their life and attracted to the same sex is no longer turned on by the same sex, to the point of them no longer being gay.

 

I genuinely believe that people who claim to be ex-gay are still attracted to the same-sex, whether they want to admit to it or not. Sexuality is not a switch that can be flipped on or off, one way or another, but it's something that people can choose not to act on. And I think that's more so what's happening here with people who claim to be ex-gay.

 

Here's a great article that explains this topic further, "The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity."

Yes, I do agree with same-sex attraction. The ex-gay people might still have the feelings being with the same-sex but choose not to act upon those thoughts or feelings. However, I think if they choose to not act on the same-sex attraction for a long time, it may can come to a point where those thoughts won't be in their life anymore and they will probably desire to be with the opposite sex. 

 

If you would like, I can go more in detail about this through DMs just to be safe 

 

[DamianSolo]

11 hours ago, Queen. said:

Yes, I do agree with same-sex attraction. The ex-gay people might still have the feelings being with the same-sex but choose not to act upon those thoughts or feelings. However, I think if they choose to not act on the same-sex attraction for a long time, it may can come to a point where those thoughts won't be in their life anymore and they will probably desire to be with the opposite sex. 

 

If you would like, I can go more in detail about this through DMs just to be safe 

 

There are people, straight and otherwise, who practice celibacy and lead healthily single lives where they don't engage in sexual intercourse or act on attractions. Are you suggesting a straight man who's celibate will eventually desire to be with another man? I, myself, have gone years without acting on same-sex attraction, that didn't make me any closer to desiring to be with a woman. You have to look at it both ways; if I'm reading what you're saying correctly, it does sound like you view that as a gateway to heterosexuality/homosexuality; I feel confident in saying sexual orientation doesn't work that way, otherwise the person in question is more than likely bisexual and was always attracted to someone of a different or same sex, whether they were able to acknowledge that about themselves or not.