celeb news Brazilians fan vs Taylor Swift

[Mordecai]

I'm not sure how Taylor is to blame for this. The venue should have seen the forecasted weather and heatwave and taken the necessary steps to address the issues. Given that the concerts would have attracted massive media and public attention over there it's also fair to say the authorities had a duty to do the same thing too.

[liquiddiamonds]

19 minutes ago, Julia Fox said:

Maybe I’m stereotyping but there’s no other country on LatAm at least with this history of events and to consider that the organizers on both situations are kind of responsible talks way more than the fans because if the organizers can’t do their good job the devoted and cheerful Brazilians fans neither. Like the politics on Brazil are just awful.

 

Taylor didn’t came to Chile because we don’t have a stadium and the security needed to give a proper show with security to Taylor, her team and the fans so the production company stated that it wasn’t factual. Brazil would have know better but yeah, it’s all done now 

Where was the energy when people were literally shot in a country music festival in las vegas or stepped on it during Astroworld? Bombed in Manchester? Did this become part of a "history" of the country? You had to go all the way back to an event in 2006 when in 2023 the same band is touring stadiums in Brazil with no problems as deaths in concerts and no dates in Chile. Only this year we had Harry Styles, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Coldplay, all smoothly. It IS stereotyping. Sorry if you felt overwhelmed during your visit here, but it's no different from Buenos Aires, Mexico City, Bogota and other big LATAM cities: you need to know where you are stepping your foot and keep it to the safe areas. Strolling in the neighborhood Taylor is at right now (Ipanema) is not any different than in european big cities, from my own experience.

 

And don't bring our politics into it as a straw argument. Pay attention to yours because it ain't looking good after the Constitutional Election this year...

[liquiddiamonds]

and here's Dua Lipa feeling unsafe in Laranjeiras, in Rio de Janeiro 

 

[Mirtilo]

1 hour ago, Itsaliability said:

The article was directly in English so no need for google translate honey. I read that in the article I quoted, so don't know if you read that too, or just assumed I am brazilian therefore would know more about brazilian federal laws, and you were so confused about it, instead of just informing and correcting me

It’s obvious that ”the article” screams fake news and it’s not reliable

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Prosecutor Analys Punheta told newspaper Correio Braziliense: "We take our laws very seriously here in Brazil, and US Americans who visit need to understand that.

“Punheta” means “jerk off”. And why Taylor would own a car in Brazil if she does not live in the country?

[Shendelzare]

4 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said:

Dua Lipa

you have your answer

[liquiddiamonds]

Just now, Shendelzare said:

you have your answer

Although this forum loves to run with faceless accusations, she's actually famous here and people know her and songs. They are played as much as Taylor's...

[KingWitch]

8 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said:

and here's Dua Lipa feeling unsafe in Laranjeiras, in Rio de Janeiro 

 

I see at least 3 bodyguards in that picture,of course she'd feel safe 

[ttsmu]

 

It seems like another fan died last night in Rio, but this time in a robbery after the show was cancelled. 

[Tusk]

5 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

 

It seems like another fan died last night in Rio, but this time in a robbery after the show was cancelled. 

This is very sad but has nothing to do with Taylor and attaching her picture to it is not right. 
 

 

 

[katykater]

30 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

 

It seems like another fan died last night in Rio, but this time in a robbery after the show was cancelled. 

The armed robbers wouldn't have picked the busiest hour of the day. So they picked a moment when dinner is done, people are doing something else in the evening and suddenly a concert was not going to happen, hundreds of thirsty starved Swifties were flooding the place.

 

I assumed it was about the Burger King where I saw a police officer entering with an assault rifle.

Edited November 19, 2023 by katykater

[Arrows]

3 hours ago, RIKI232 said:

The dramatics i cant 💀 

 

I get it. These people flew in from all over South America and spent months planning. The might have to leave Rio now and miss the rescheduled show.

[Headlock]

16 minutes ago, katykater said:

The armed robbers wouldn't have picked the busiest hour of the day. So they picked a moment when dinner is done, people are doing something else in the evening and suddenly a concert was not going to happen, hundreds of thirsty starved Swifties were flooding the place.

You are so ******* weird.

[Julia Fox]

1 hour ago, liquiddiamonds said:

Where was the energy when people were literally shot in a country music festival in las vegas or stepped on it during Astroworld? Bombed in Manchester? Did this become part of a "history" of the country? You had to go all the way back to an event in 2006 when in 2023 the same band is touring stadiums in Brazil with no problems as deaths in concerts and no dates in Chile. Only this year we had Harry Styles, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Coldplay, all smoothly. It IS stereotyping. Sorry if you felt overwhelmed during your visit here, but it's no different from Buenos Aires, Mexico City, Bogota and other big LATAM cities: you need to know where you are stepping your foot and keep it to the safe areas. Strolling in the neighborhood Taylor is at right now (Ipanema) is not any different than in european big cities, from my own experience.

 

And don't bring our politics into it as a straw argument. Pay attention to yours because it ain't looking good after the Constitutional Election this year...

I didn’t see any danger from myself but Brazilian people warned us a lot on everything and that was just underwhelming but thanks to them we were on safe areas and in the most dangerous we were more careful. Anyway we are talking about LatAm, not Europe or North American countries so don’t stay off topic.

 

I had been in Argentina, Peru, Uruguay and Bolivia and the danger wasn’t as visible as in Brazil and it’s my experience and I have the right to be vocal about it. Policy is corrupt and here there are a lot of news about Chilean people killed because they were drugged on bars and woke up on a ditch or simply dissapear and thats not on the news on any other LatAm country so don’t act like Brazil is on the same level of security of the territory and statics prove it. Brazil is just behind Colombia and Venezuela which doesn’t make it better

 

also the constitution isn’t approved and this one that comes next wouldn’t because both are bad. At least we can organize something that is safer for anyone and if we don’t we don’t bring it anyway to put a lot of people in danger and underwhelmed because the experience wasn’t that good. Just admit Brazil is a dangerous county with bad politics, the stats are there. Also you comparing Brazil to European countries? Gosh 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Julia Fox

[georgechxng]

i was there and you guys don’t understand. i decided to priorize my health and arrived only 2 hours before the gates opened and even then, i almost passed out a few times. it felt like all my organs were burning from the inside. everyone was constantly sweating non stop, feeling dizzy and sick. they were not in the conditions to have the collected/reasonable reaction you guys wanted them to have after spending the entire day suffering the consequences of the heat and investing their money and savings to be there only to hear that the show got post-poned 1h before it was about to begin. it wasn’t taylor’s fault and we all know that wasn’t her ideal scenario but everyone saying that she should never go back to brazil due to those reactions have no sense of empathy whatsoever. most of you wouldn’t be able to handle what these brazilians fans went through. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by georgechxng

[Starchild]

1 hour ago, katykater said:

The armed robbers wouldn't have picked the busiest hour of the day. So they picked a moment when dinner is done, people are doing something else in the evening and suddenly a concert was not going to happen, hundreds of thirsty starved Swifties were flooding the place.

 

I assumed it was about the Burger King where I saw a police officer entering with an assault rifle.

You're such a damn loser 

[If U Seek Amy]

I get why they are mad, but this doesn't really feel like a Taylor thing. Though I figured she would take the heat. I'd be more mad at the venue hoster/government and their handling of things rather than Taylor/her team. If they are going to be ungrateful she actually went though I'd just cancel the Brazil shows and put energy elsewhere

[DoubleRainbow!]

17 hours ago, Taeyong said:

Of course losers like you would turn this situation into a "this country's show ended that country's show" competition

 

Not the time or the place, but never change ATRL 

Chill the tf down, so you want me to say the shows in Arg and Brazil were amazing, when they weren’t? 
and saying Mexico shows were the best it’s just a personal opinion 

[Scars]

1 hour ago, Julia Fox said:

Anyway we are talking about LatAm, not Europe or North American countries so don’t stay off topic.

There's absolutely nothing 'off topic' about mentioning the fact that tragedies on music concerts can happen literally everywhere as an answer to your insinuation that current events are somehow unique to the "history of Brazil" because of *two* incidents in the span of nearly 18 years. 

 

If anything, your use of anecdote is what sounds unrelated to the events that took place on Friday.

 

Anyway, Tickets 4 Fun, the private company responsible for bringing The Eras Tour to Brazil, is rightfully being legally pressured by local authorities and federal government to answer for their wrongdoings and to provide a safe environment for the next shows. People will be provided with free access to water.

 

Hopefully T4F is going to be charged.

[Scars]

The amount of misinformation being spread online about latest events on Rio is actually insane. There were fake stories about fans being robbed at gun-point outside of the stadium yesterday, but that has been already debunked by reliable sources.

 

People thought a deliveryman was a robber, but well, he wasn't. Source: x.

[dawnettakins]

It's obviously the right call. A fan literally died at the concert the night before. 

These people can get over themselves. And I'm not even a Taylor fan, just being real.

[réveuse]

18 hours ago, Junlin said:

Let the downhill begin 

Why do you guys want this to happen? So weird.

[AvadaKedavra]

There's a chance she's not coming back because it was a highly traumatic situation. It could be Europe, Asia, or some American city. It would clearly not be easy for an artist to relieve those memories. Let's see in the future
 

If Brazil has this high criminality, it's because the past governments of Lula-Dilma and Bolsonaro were a mess, and they did nothing to solve this in all these years. But some people here are supportive of them? So, do you have the right to throw stones at other countries? I've seen so many ATLRErs supporting those politicians who are bringing doom to Brazil. Countries reflect the wrongdoings of their politicians. I'm currently in Colombia, and we are suffering because our last two presidents are a mess. Now, criminality is higher than ever, and kidnappings are now as common as in the '90s. Do you want criminality to stop in Latinoamerica-Southamerica? Have nuance and support the right politicians from an outside view. That's how you help. Root for Brazilians to elect better people. Right or left, who cares? They need politicians who are good and will tackle this problem of criminality to the roots   
 

Yes, SOME Brazilian fans are acting poorly (some of them. That's not great – not cool), but they're just in their feelings. Here in the developing world, it's more uncommon to have concerts of this type. For us, it's a rarity – this type of thing. Don't want to sound mean to all my sugarcubes, but you all in the States or West Europe have the best events, the best concerts, huge titanic productions, the best cosplay events, tech events, festivals, sport ones...ETC all the time. Wealth speaks.  The developing world doesn't have those, so they take it more personally, and it's more valuable to them. For us, it's like golden chances  do you get why people are that triggered on there? This was probably the only time Taylor was coming to their country after decades. 
 

Salaries in Latin America are really bad too, and people from all over Latin America saved so much money for this trip and the hotels. Yes not only brazilians were in attendance. Understand why they feel so disappointed. This is a once-in-a-lifetime experience for so many, and they clearly feel upset. So, don't mock Brazilians or Latinos darlings. That's not good. Be nicer. We all need to support each other in this tragic times as Popstans. Of course Taylor is also a victim here. This situation is surreal.
 

Now the question is????

1.it would be great for the two victims to get help and economical-mental health support. What is Taylor and the fandom and the goverment doin for those families? heartbreakin

2. I'm also so concerned about Taylor and her mental health in this moment. What a horrible situation. She must be blaming herself still. About her physical health too after that heat-shock. I wonder if this could bring a change of attitude about all this frenzy about her and the direction of her career. I wonder if she will slowdown with the circus. 

3. This is also a wake-up call for everyone worldwide about the safety in concerts. Don't take it for granted. So many things could go wrong. 

4. It should also set a precedent of how important is water. Should be mandatory in concerts without paying. The corporations are so greedy
I seen how even in the States they dont give water to people. Thats criminal.

5. We need monitoring about the weather too and weather extremes. Heatwaves and Thunderstorms are gettin more common with global warming. This will be a reality in the future and will be absolutely worse. Its important for all Artists now to check the conditions of the concerts they will have. Are they safe for the Audience?  how theyre measuring the temperature in closed locations? looks like summer concerts are a NO!  

Edited November 19, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[Donquizote]

Reminds me of Madonna x Chileans during MDNE Tour

[BtDecember]

2 hours ago, georgechxng said:

i was there and you guys don’t understand. i decided to priorize my health and arrived only 2 hours before the gates opened and even then, i almost passed out a few times. it felt like all my organs were burning from the inside. everyone was constantly sweating non stop, feeling dizzy and sick. they were not in the conditions to have the collected/reasonable reaction you guys wanted them to have after spending the entire day suffering the consequences of the heat and investing their money and savings to be there only to hear that the show got post-poned 1h before it was about to begin. it wasn’t taylor’s fault and we all know that wasn’t her ideal scenario but everyone saying that she should never go back to brazil due to those reactions have no sense of empathy whatsoever. most of you wouldn’t be able to handle what these brazilians fans went through. 

People and the media in Brazil are literally trash talking her. I don’t think it would be safer for her to visit Brazil again after all of these. 

[AvadaKedavra]

17 minutes ago, Donquizote said:

Reminds me of Madonna x Chileans during MDNE Tour

Is this gif from that concert?