CandleGuy Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Dula Peep said: This is literally what most of you are serving on this site. The left is completely lost if we're siding with terrorists now. Almost like Osama is a terrorist condemning the terrorists in the US government who support the Israeli government terrorists who are fighting the Hamas terrorists. Almost like the world is just a stage for a power struggle between bloodthirsty terrorists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsouko Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Mind you a lot of these people did not even exist when 9/11 happened, and if they did they had a child's awareness of it. It makes sense that young people whose senses and consciousness have been dulled by social media, misinformation, echo chambers, algorithms have come to believe they've been "lied to" simply because they did not possess prior knowledge of a dead terrorist's open letter (which has been publicly accessible for all to read for more than two decades) until a Chinese spyware app which they all use voluntarily drew their attention to it via a trending hashtag 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckythisway Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Honestly not surprised at all. This is the direct underbelly of socialism. Everyone falls for the shiny traps of its entitlements (free college for all, higher minimum wages, government handouts) but chooses to ignore the instability, chaos, and ignorance that socialist principles breed in society. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Mitsouko said: Mind you a lot of these people did not even exist when 9/11 happened, and if they did they had a child's awareness of it. It makes sense that young people whose senses and consciousness have been dulled by social media, misinformation, echo chambers, algorithms, have come to believe they've been "lied to" simply because they did not possess prior knowledge of a dead terrorist's open letter (which has been publicly accessible for all to read for more than two decades) until a Chinese spyware app which they all use voluntarily use drew their attention to it via a trend Most of the people posting TikTok videos supporting the letter are like people in their late 20's and early 30's though. There's absolutely no excuse to be this delusional 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said: Right. I think something many forget is like even most Americans hate their own government to varying levels. They aren't just completely clueless to how much it sucks, and it is annoying how many people online think Americans are completely just in love with the government and supportive of all it does simply because they support SOME of the things it does. But then those same people turn around and get mad when others do it to other countries and call them ignorant. Or so they seem to imply in the way they talk. Everyone has different ideas about how they think it should be changed for the better. But do you really think those hundreds of millions of people are just going to dismantle their entire lives/government because they're upset about things because it is good for others potentially? Like yes, the government sucks sometimes, but I also like having reasonable order that gives me a chance to have a home, a place for my loved ones, a job, easy access to water/food, and more. Get real for one minute Yeah this. Like 85%+ of the American public either dislikes, or actively hates our own government. We don’t need people acting like we’re blind sheep oblivious to the bad things we’ve done. There’s no need to romanticize many of the people we had clashes/issues with either. No, Al Queda wasn’t good. No, Hitler wasn’t good. No Osama Bin Laden didn’t make some “points” unless you want to live under a 12th century style life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alongoria13 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I seriously can't believe this is what some people have come to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This compilation on Reddit has a lot of the viral videos which went viral on tiktok supporting the letter (there's some gays too lol when the letter said homosexuality was a sin): https://www.reddit.com/r/boringdystopia/s/EjBSW3nvWS They're actually liberals Chile supporting this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If U Seek Amy Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Yeah this. Like 85%+ of the American public either dislikes, or actively hates our own government. We don’t need people acting like we’re blind sheep oblivious to the bad things we’ve done. There’s no need to romanticize many of the people we had clashes/issues with either. No, Al Queda wasn’t good. No, Hitler wasn’t good. No Osama Bin Laden didn’t make some “points” unless you want to live under a 12th century style life Right. Like I feel like in the pursuit of trying to be intellectual people are actually in some cases becoming more stupid and falling for propaganda/people pushing some sort of weird agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 It largely only went viral *after* the reactions got posted about on Twitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenMachine Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 La inteligencia persigue a los TikTokers pero ellos son más rápidos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUNTPERFECTA Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This is crazy and anyone supporting that terrorist is clearly out of their mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Communion said: It largely only went viral *after* the reactions got posted about on Twitter. 274 in 1 day or 274 videos for the whole year? Edited November 17, 2023 by Delirious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenMachine Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said: I seriously can't believe this is what some people have come to Just like Pharrell Williams said "I don't know what this world is coming to" in this Paloma song. Stream while you're at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Delirious said: 274 in 1 day or 274 videos for the whole year? Either would be miniscule considering TikTok sees about 34,000,000 videos posted a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Wont surprise me if people here call Osama bin laden a freedom fighter , like they do Hamas. 2 7 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 The letter didn’t actually go viral on TikTok. A news reporter (Yashar Ali) tweeted about it and it went viral on Twitter. the dumb thing is that I just know politicians are going to use “China is radicalizing our youth to support terrorists like bin Laden” as an excuse to ban TikTok for its pro-Palestine content 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aaron Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Where is Communion to tell us how this is a good thing actually? edit: oop spoke too soon! Edited November 17, 2023 by Aaron 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archetype Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, If U Seek Amy said: Right. Like I feel like in the pursuit of trying to be intellectual people are actually in some cases becoming more stupid and falling for propaganda/people pushing some sort of weird agenda People are becoming more and more radicalized, partially due to how the far right and far left fail to control their narrative, leading to fringe extremist factions influencing gullible demographics. This is the same young demographic that shared 9/11 memes when they were 13 and are now sharing videos of a mass murdering terrorist and claiming to be enlightened. Not only is sharing his text inappropriate, but it makes people think “Oh he was right, he made some points” which is like, you could have listened to anyone else to tell you about US atrocities but you chose a literal terrorist. What does that say about people like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIVERT Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 When Elon Musk tweets about a Christian fascist blaming the Jews for the degeneracy of the west: correctly attacked for being antisemitic When Osama Bin Laden writes a letter blaming Jews for the degeneracy of the West: hey, he has a point, he’s actually a socialist let me read into it Antisemites co-signing Osama Bin Laden is not going to help gather sympathy for Palestinians. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Communion said: Either would be miniscule considering TikTok sees about 34,000,000 videos posted a day. No....skincare gets 250 videos a day. 270 a day is quite a lot especially considering how creepy it is to use the trend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenMachine Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Wont surprise me if people here call Osama bin laden a freedom fighter , like they do Hamas. I haven't seen anyone here calling Hamas 'freedom fighters'. Everyone agrees they're doing awful stuff for Israelis and Palestinians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 17, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2023 I wanna say this is shocking but it isn't unfortunately. American exceptionalism propaganda is constant and really leads people to believe that the US is a perfect country trying to protect the world from bad people. Of course, it doesn't take long to disprove that but most Americans generally don't challenge what they hear from the government... even if it doesn't make any sense 27 minutes ago, luckythisway said: Honestly not surprised at all. This is the direct underbelly of socialism. Everyone falls for the shiny traps of its entitlements (free college for all, higher minimum wages, government handouts) but chooses to ignore the instability, chaos, and ignorance that socialist principles breed in society. But the US is not a socialist society so what now? Not to mention that "socialist" countries (which is really just democratic socialism) are some of the most peaceful and educated in the world 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If U Seek Amy Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Archetype said: People are becoming more and more radicalized, partially due to how the far right and far left fail to control their narrative, leading to fringe extremist factions influencing gullible demographics. This is the same young demographic that shared 9/11 memes when they were 13 and are now sharing videos of a mass murdering terrorist and claiming to be enlightened. Not only is sharing his text inappropriate, but it makes people think “Oh he was right, he made some points” which is like, you could have listened to anyone else to tell you about US atrocities but you chose a literal terrorist. What does that say about people like that? It genuinely is like I am living in the twilight zone sometimes. I agree. And people will then try to act like they're more intelligent and morally superior than me and others for not agreeing and it is such an odd feeling to deal with. Smile and nod I guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIVERT Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: I haven't seen anyone here calling Hamas 'freedom fighters'. Everyone agrees they're doing awful stuff for Israelis and Palestinians Check out the mega thread on this website 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi91 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Delirious said: This compilation on Reddit has a lot of the viral videos which went viral on tiktok supporting the letter (there's some gays too lol when the letter said homosexuality was a sin): https://www.reddit.com/r/boringdystopia/s/EjBSW3nvWS They're actually liberals Chile supporting this No wonder people make fun of “gays for palestine” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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