woohoo Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Not this old Russian slappy the dummy hag again. Luckily this time there’s TikTok to expose her Putin pocket book and take her out early. This is so transparent of Russia. Siphon just enough votes away again to ensure his ultimate puppet Trump wins again and he can shape the US in the image of Russia. It’s not that hard to figure out. 6
ClashAndBurn Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: "Genocide is okay as long as it's Israelis doing it to Palestinians!" -ATRL user ZIVERT
Communion Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Jill Stein's support of war criminal Bashar al-Assad You might want to not get your news from the right-wing NGO social media personalities you've linked to on here, sis! This is literally Jill Stein's only mention of Assad: Which was *checks date and time* literally a live response to a debate airing between Clinton and Trump that mainstream media refused to let 3rd party candidates join (democracy!). So "support for Assad" = saying the US has to stop supplying weapons to Saudi Arabia to hold credibility. Well.. you then must have a meatier, more substantial claim for what makes Jill Stein a Putin supporter, yes? Oh wait, you think it's cause she sat next to him in a photo. Let's see who also has been papped next to him. Ironically, that same dinner she had spoken at included condemning both the US and Russia for dropping bombs on Syria. "Green Party leftists calling for the US to end their support for Saudi Arabia's genocide on Yemen is actually endorsing Russia!!!!" Meanwhile, Joe Biden, actually supporting and endorsing war crimes: Edited November 10, 2023 by Communion 1 1
ZIVERT Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, ClashAndBurn said: "Genocide is okay as long as it's Israelis doing it to Palestinians!" -ATRL user ZIVERT ATRL user ClashAndBurn in on President Biden campaigning for more support of Ukraine in the midst of defending itself from a Russian invasion: “Americans need a president that’s interested in helping its own citizens instead of Ukrainian ones. Don’t vote!” ATRL user ClashAndBurn upon hearing critically panned Russian troll Dr. Jill Stein announces American presidential campaign with top agenda being investigating Israel at the behest of terrorist group Hamas instead of helping Americans: “Seems legit!” 8 2
Communion Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ZIVERT said: top agenda being investigating Israel ..do you think the funding for ICC investigations come from countries who call for them? What? also, ddd at this mask off moment here: 2 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: at the behest of terrorist group Hamas Really not hiding the virulent pro-Israelism, sis! Gotta be a bit sneakier! No one's buying the facade!
Mean Trees Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 ATRLers who haven't spent any time looking at any politics other than what nonsense meme is posted by Occupy Democrats or the DNC mocking and calling others stupid is HILARIOUS to me. 4 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: ATRL user ClashAndBurn in on President Biden campaigning for more support of Ukraine in the midst of defending itself from a Russian invasion: “Americans need a president that’s interested in helping its own citizens instead of Ukrainian ones. Don’t vote!” ATRL user ClashAndBurn upon hearing critically panned Russian troll Dr. Jill Stein announces American presidential campaign with top agenda being investigating Israel at the behest of terrorist group Hamas instead of helping Americans: “Seems legit!” I genuinely don't care about Jill Stein. Never voted for her in 2016, and I wasn't planning on it in 2024. Nice try. Also that quote about Joe Biden and Ukraine literally never came from me. Nice job quoting me on an opinion I've never held. It's pretty clear my paraphrased quote is accurate and hit you too close to home
Dekkan Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I'm not sure who she is 'cause I don't follow US politics like that, but I hold a diploma in political science and international relations and for once I feel like I need to add my two cents. Political systems are my specialty and I agree with her that two-party political systems are fundamentally flawed in comparison to multi-party systems. They simply fail to represent the whole spectrum of views and create a pathological inefficiency ultimately resulting in the constituents' interests being of secondary importance. The two main parties live in a symbiotic relationship and benefit from it, even though they are sworn enemies, therefore the demise of the system is not in the interest of either of them and it is extremely difficult to abolish it. With the US constitution being super hard to change on top of that... Mary I am keeping my fingers crossed for our fellow US sisters and I hope that you will elect someone great, even if it doesn't necessarily look like a possibility at the moment or at all ever. 1 1
vuelve88 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 It’s grifting season for Jill, her favorite holiday. And then she disappears for years after she loses and gets enough donor/spoiler money. 10
ZIVERT Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Communion said: Really not hiding the virulent pro-Israelism, sis! Gotta be a bit sneakier! No one's buying the facade! I don't have to hide from openly supporting Israel's right to defend itself from a terror group the way you have to hide from supporting Russia and Syria's right to inflict terror on whoever they like bc something something Hillary Clinton 3 9
Communion Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Western neo-imperialists on ATRL: supported the US pushing for Navalny - *who is to Putin's right* - to replace Putin the moment Obama's courtship of Putin failed despite Navalny even being more racist and pro-war against Ukraine than even a far-right ghoul like Putin. Meanwhile, Jill Stein, the alleged Putinist, calling out the imprisonment of leftists in Putin's Russia: Imagine getting smeared as a right-winger by liberals who have the political literacy and knowledge of a child just because the Hillary For America intern was a dumb ass and put Columbus, Ohio on her campaigning tour stop and not Milwaukee, Wisconsin and now Hillary's L is somehow on you. Edited November 10, 2023 by Communion 1
Airlie Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 “You know she has my vote just like she did in 2016” Americans are so unserious and really treat voting as a joke 1
Mean Trees Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: I don't have to hide from openly supporting Israel's right to defend itself from a terror group the way you have to hide from supporting Russia and Syria's right to inflict terror on whoever they like bc something something Hillary Clinton The fact that you were defending the Galizien SS division and have the nerve to pass judgement on anyone else is hilarious to me. 1 3 1
ZIVERT Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mean Trees said: The fact that you were defending the Galizien SS division and have the nerve to pass judgement on anyone else is hilarious to me. On 9/24/2023 at 4:18 PM, ZIVERT said: ATRL isn’t ready for the nuance of this conversation. The Soviets had just finished committing their own genocide against Ukrainians, called the Holodomor. But honoring nazis is BAD. Hope that clears up any confusion 1
ZIVERT Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Also that quote about Joe Biden and Ukraine literally never came from me. Nice job quoting me on an opinion I've never held. It's pretty clear my paraphrased quote is accurate and hit you too close to home On 6/27/2022 at 12:17 AM, ClashAndBurn said: his approval rating shouldn’t be any higher than zero. He’s more president of Ukraine than he is President of the US at this point with how many billions of dollars he sends to them on a weekly basis. On 2/20/2023 at 3:37 PM, ClashAndBurn said: Everybody who’s in power agrees with you on the need to pour American taxpayer dollars into the Ukraine war while Americans at home have their skin seared off by chemical burns caused by Biden’s support of rail corporations and union-busting. Zero people who disagree with this notion have any power to affect change, so why are you complaining? You’re all getting exactly what you want- an endless gravy train to Zelenskyy. On 2/21/2023 at 7:42 PM, ClashAndBurn said: Yes, yes, we all know you don't care about the American taxpayers who are bankrolling your country's very existence while their lungs are being burnt to a crisp by Biden's domestic failure. Move along My bad, you only heavily implied that Biden is a bad president for the past year because he cares about Ukraine, my apologies Anyways, I'm sure Dr. Stein's approval rating amongst Americans will be much higher than President Biden's when she sells out American-ally Ukraine to traditional American-adversary Russia, and diverts that aid money to spearhead an international investigation into traditional American-ally Israel after being attacked by literal Jihadists. More amazing policy decisions from ATRL's very own professional ideologues
Mean Trees Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Hope that clears up any confusion Nothing nuanced about nazis. And is that why more Ukrainians fought with the Soviets than with the Waffen SS Galizien unit?
Gaia Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Gottasadae said: @Communion @ClashAndBurn Truly clowns 1 1 2 1
Communion Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, DONTYELLATME said: Sorry still too old IMO 80 - Joe Biden, Democratic Party 77 - Donald Trump, Republican Party 73 - Jill Stein, Green Party 70 - Cornel West, Independent 69 - Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Independent 54 - Lars Mapstead, Libertarian Party 43 - Claudia De La Cruz, Party for Socialism & Liberation Socialism it is then!
ZIVERT Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mean Trees said: Nothing nuanced about nazis. And is that why more Ukrainians fought with the Soviets than with the Waffen SS Galizien unit? I've been told several times this past month that nothing exists in a vacuum and there is nuance to everything, was I misled? It's possible But glad that we agree about Nazis - I look forward to the day both Russia and Hamas are defeated
Mean Trees Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: I've been told several times this past month that nothing exists in a vacuum and there is nuance to everything, was I misled? It's possible But glad that we agree about Nazis - I look forward to the day both Russia and Hamas are defeated So tell me the nuance of the Waffen SS Galizien unit when more Ukrainians fought with the Soviets than them? Since you said the Soviets were so bad and evil.
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