poll Who will be the next Taylor Swift? Billie or Olivia or Dua or someone new?

[Sweetness]

4 hours ago, Blue. said:

None. Taylor is not on the same level as your normal pop girls so you cannot go around making comparisons like who’s the new Madonna, the new Beyonce, the new Rihanna.

Her impact is a once in a lifetime situation which has not been experienced since the Beatles and will not be experience for another half century.

Lol, that's a lie when you have Madonna and Michael Jackson. Globally artist from Eminem to Lady Gaga and even Ed sheeran are miles above her. It took her 17 years in her career to get to this peak and she has free streaming, social media while Madonna and Michael had a handful of radio stations and tv shows to promote themselves and they didn't even air globally.  I' m still waiting for one her albums to sell what the Bodyguard soundtrack sold, Thriller, Baby one more time etc. How did they sell so many albums in such a sort time period when you had to purchase them for 16.99 and she has free streams and still can't match these albums success despite the million sellers in there first week, her career would look alot different without social media and streaming. Also her main competition have moved on with there lives, Rihanna is a mom and business women, Ariana is now acting, Adele wont make another album until she and boyfriend seperate. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Sweetness

[GraceRandolph]

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[PoisonedIvy]

40 minutes ago, Sweetness said:

Lol, that's a lie when you have Madonna and Michael Jackson. Globally artist from Eminem to Lady Gaga and even Ed sheeran are miles above her. 

Madonna and Michael yes but their PEAKS were in the 80s. Taylor (and probably Adele) are the only two to reach insurmountable heights in the 2010s. Eminem is more of a longevity artist, Gaga and Sheeran’s peaks were extremely short lived compared to Beatles/MJ/Madonna/Taylor, the other artists have like 4-6 huge global eras while Gaga and Sheeran only have like 2.

 

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It took her 17 years in her career to get to this peak and she has free streaming, social media while Madonna and Michael had a handful of radio stations and tv shows to promote themselves and they didn't even air globally. 

You frame it as if it’s a bad thing that she has sustained an incline in her career for 17 years? When most artists’ careers are on life support by year 10, only a few legends throughout history have sustained and GROWN interest in their catalogue over decades — Beatles MJ and Madonna being 3 prime examples. Taylor is following in their footsteps of having both insane peaks AND massive longevity, where artists like Adele, Gaga, and Sheeran only have huge peaks but lack longevity. And you guys have got to stop acting like social media and streaming suddenly make it -easier- to succeed. If it was “easier” there would be a ton more artists entering the legendary pantheon but as we can see it’s pretty strictly exclusive to Taylor and maaaaybe Bey and Rih, all of whom debuted in the digital sales era. 
 

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I' m still waiting for one her albums to sell what the Bodyguard soundtrack sold, Thriller, Baby one more time etc. How did they sell so many albums in such a sort time period when you had to purchase them for 16.99 and she has free streams and still can't match these albums success despite the million sellers in there first week, her career would look alot different without social media and streaming. 

You can keep waiting. The era of albums selling 20M pure copies is over because why would audiences pay a ton of money for one album when they can pay that same amount for an entire catalogue of music. You can call it unfair but it’s much more convenient for consumers and it is the natural evolution of consumption. Ironically, it makes it HARDER for Taylor to reach the heights she’s reaching, because people DON’T go out and buy albums with the frequency they used to. Yet somehow she has BEAT the odds of a declining industry and continues to exceed far beyond what anyone else is capable of doing and it’s time yall stop downplaying that. 

im tired of people acting like Taylor is succeeding because it’s “easier” to do so now when it’s verifiably much more difficult. Compare the number of Diamond albums in the 90s and 00s to those in the 10s and 20s. Compare the number of 1M+ US debuts in the 90s and 00s to those of the 10s and 20s. The only thing that’s gotten easier over time for artists is single success, and that’s why mid to late 00s to mid 2010s are the peak of single sales/certifications, largely the reason Rihanna’s record sales stand as tall as they do.

 

We live in a world where ALBUMS reaching enormous peaks and SUSTAINING that interest over a prolonged period of time is OVER, and Taylor continues to defy those odds and succeed in spite of this. Celebrate that. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by PoisonedIvy

[Storm653]

None. The industry has changed too much. Taylor kinda benefits from dominating and building a fanbase in the past where streaming and decentralized mass media wasn't the new norm. 

 

It's also why the hip hop industry won't have another Drake anytime soon. 

[Yuanyu]

13 hours ago, Blue. said:

None. Taylor is not on the same level as your normal pop girls so you cannot go around making comparisons like who’s the new Madonna, the new Beyonce, the new Rihanna.

Her impact is a once in a lifetime situation which has not been experienced since the Beatles and will not be experience for another half century.

Curious. Eminem with a much reduced musical activity is still above Taylor Swifft.
You see reality in a very distorted way, and it is quite worrying

[Brave_]

Probably some random pop-r&b guy that comes outta nowhere

[poki]

Lady Gaga

[Yuanyu]

8 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Madonna and Michael yes but their PEAKS were in the 80s. Taylor (and probably Adele) are the only two to reach insurmountable heights in the 2010s. Eminem is more of a longevity artist, Gaga and Sheeran’s peaks were extremely short lived compared to Beatles/MJ/Madonna/Taylor, the other artists have like 4-6 huge global eras while Gaga and Sheeran only have like 2.

 

To say that Eminem is more of a longevity artist when his peak is untouchable and with 4 studio albums in the 00's he achieved such a big difference with respect to his competitors is to speak without knowledge of the music market.

 

 

1		Eminem	137,743,000
2		Linkin Park	79,180,000
3		Coldplay	73,661,000
4		Britney Spears	67,445,000
5		Beyonce	60,047,000
6		Pink	53,776,000
7		Black Eyed Peas	52,018,000

 

[taylorrrr]

Like Taylor once said "I promise that you'll never find another like me"

[PoisonedIvy]

22 minutes ago, Yuanyu said:

To say that Eminem is more of a longevity artist when his peak is untouchable and with 4 studio albums in the 00's he achieved such a big difference with respect to his competitors is to speak without knowledge of the music market.

 

 

1		Eminem	137,743,000
2		Linkin Park	79,180,000
3		Coldplay	73,661,000
4		Britney Spears	67,445,000
5		Beyonce	60,047,000
6		Pink	53,776,000
7		Black Eyed Peas	52,018,000

 

His peak was big but I was 4 years old or so when he really started taking off, so sorry if I’m misrepresenting his career. I agree he’s a peak + longevity combination just like Beatles, MJ, Madonna and Taylor.

[Axelios]

1 hour ago, Yuanyu said:

Curious. Eminem with a much reduced musical activity is still above Taylor Swifft.
You see reality in a very distorted way, and it is quite worrying

He is not... Taylor will surpass his totals in a few years and he debuted 10 years before Taylor. He has 1 more studio albums than Taylor overall though his recent ones are not that successful compared to Taylor so we can't really say he has her consistency.

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Axelios

[Badgalbriel]

15 hours ago, Cain said:

Someone obviously will, this was said about Madonna in the 2000s as well and now here we are

 

It might take another 20 years tho

It's crazy to think how Madonna was already in her 40s by the time she reached 20 years of her career while Taylor will be 35 only. 

 

Madonna really defied ageism until a certain point. Then it became irreversible, unfortunately. 

[Yuanyu]

1 minute ago, Axelios said:

He is not... Taylor will surpass his totals in a few years and he debuted 10 years before Taylor

 

The odd thing would be if she didn't do it seeing the pace at which she releases music

Eminem is 51 years old and has 10 studio albums.
Taylor is 33 years old and has 14 studio albums + one Christmas album. 

The math here is pretty simple

 

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, Yuanyu said:

The odd thing would be if she didn't do it seeing the pace at which she releases music

Eminem is 51 years old and has 10 studio albums.
Taylor is 33 years old and has 14 studio albums + one Christmas album. 

The math here is pretty simple

 

Taylor Swift has exactly 10 studio albums, Eminem has 11. If you want to count rereleases we should also count the 2 Eminem compilations, his 2 reissues his soundtrack albums, his collab albums...

This comparison doesn't do Eminem much favour though...

[Yuanyu]

24 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Taylor Swift has exactly 10 studio albums, Eminem has 11. If you want to count rereleases we should also count the 2 Eminem compilations, his 2 reissues his soundtrack albums, his collab albums...

This comparison doesn't do Eminem much favour though...

if you say so.....

[SchmoodRing]

On 11/7/2023 at 12:45 PM, FolkLover1989 said:

Who will be the next Taylor Swift ?

 

I don't mean Taylor wise in music or genre etc..

 

But Taylor level of success and consistency? Who will be able to replicate?

 

The closest so far are Billie and Olivia

 

Discuss

one could argue that olivia already had with her debut. they have certain similarities but olivia is more like a taylor/avril hybrid. billie is basically a diluted debut era halsey with selena gomez vocals.

[JanStan]

Gen Z artists don’t appeal to anyone outside of their age group. Even in movies. The last legends class was the Bey/Gaga/Adele/Taylor group. It’s why stan wars revolve around them even though they are decades into their careers. 

 

So in short, forget Taylor, they wont even reach Katy level.

[Ron Ng]

None but Olivia could be the closest if she got more smash hits