ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 4, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 4, 2023 Maybe they should take these same concerns and look internally before worrying about what other nations think 6
Popular Post qurl Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 4, 2023 they f*cked this up so badly, so much worse than any of their other blunders that it has not only erased whatever progressive wins they achieved (and some of them were legit good) , but i feel we’ll be able to look back and attribute this to his inevitable loss against trump when leftmost voters sit out the election a mess …. next year is going to be insufferable slow moving car crash and regardless of who wins we will all massively lose 33 1
EnigmaticAndroid Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 Maybe the hag shouldn't have done it in the first place 6
Popular Post DAP Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 4, 2023 They care more about self-serving illusions than the actual impacts of their warmongering and that says it all. Pathetic gutless bunch of maggots. 26 2 1
Bloodflowers. Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 Not even other powerful Western allies are backing Israel this much the way Biden does 4 3
Popular Post John Slayne Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 4, 2023 I'm glad people seem to have learned from Iraq and don't fall for this warmongering anymore. 5 11
Freakshowvato Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 He lost my vote. He handled everything terribly. He encouraged massacring Palestinian children tenfold and the massacring is still continuing 4 8 1
Nova_23 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 maybe he should listen to the people voting for him and not the ones lining his pockets instead its too late though and the damage is done. 1 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 4, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 4, 2023 It’s almost as if ignoring the concerns of his voters is a bad idea. 7
differentkindahigh Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) The sad fact that it's taking people from an entirely different country to hold OUR politicians accountable because our citizens refuse to do it. Instead they shame, breate, and belittle others for it, this is absolutely INSANE. I need to see those same people start shaming these Palestinians. Edited November 4, 2023 by differentkindahigh
differentkindahigh Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bloo said: It’s almost as if ignoring the concerns of his voters is a bad idea. Not really. Bidens voters, democrats, don't really care what his concerns are, or even their own, as long as he holds a blue crayon, he's God. If Donald Trump was a Democrat, these same people would treat him as a Democratic diety as well. Edited November 4, 2023 by differentkindahigh 2
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 4, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said: Not really. Bidens voters, democrats, don't really care what his concerns are, or even their own, as long as he holds a blue crayon, he's God. If Donald Trump was a Democrat, these same people would treat him as a Democratic diety as well. Biden won in 2000 because young people came out at historic numbers and it was still decided by 44,000 votes across three states. Over 80% of Democrat voters want a ceasefire. Even a majority of Republican voters want a ceasefire. It would be laughable to suggest this won't have electoral implications that Biden should care about. Of course, the humanitarian angle is the more important perspective to view this through. But, unfortunately, our politicians are too self-motivated to care about anything beyond their own political ambitions. 3
differentkindahigh Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Bloo said: Biden won in 2000 because young people came out at historic numbers and it was still decided by 44,000 votes across three states. Over 80% of Democrat voters want a ceasefire. Even a majority of Republican voters want a ceasefire. It would be laughable to suggest this won't have electoral implications that Biden should care about. Of course, the humanitarian angle is the more important perspective to view this through. But, unfortunately, our politicians are too self-motivated to care about anything beyond their own political ambitions. Whether they want a ceasefire or not, young voters didn't come out for Biden because of his economic policies, his stance on war, college, Healthcare etc. These same people are all for the war in Ukraine 🇺🇦. They came out and voted for him because of Donald Trump and the vote blue no matter who crowd. By the time the election comes and the Democrats ignore the primary, change more voting laws, and coronate Biden when Trump is the Republican nominee (or whoever it is honestly, its going to still be "the most important election their lifetime "), these people will come back and do what they do every 4 years. There is never any accountability. BlueMaga makes sure of that. See you at the ballot box! 🟦🟦🟦🟦 Edited November 4, 2023 by differentkindahigh
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 4, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, differentkindahigh said: Whether they want a ceasefire or not. Young voters didn't come out for Biden because of his economic policies, his stance on war, college, Healthcare etc. They came out and voted for him because of Donald Trump and the vote blue no matter who crowd. By the time the election comes and the Democrats ignore the primary, change more voting laws, and coronate Biden when Trump is the nominee, these people will come back and do what they do every 4 years. 2020 and 2024 are not the same year. 2020: 2024 (link): Biden won by 44,000 votes across three states while Trump completely failed in response to COVID-19 and was sitting over a botched economy. Now, Biden is in the hot seat. Of course, things can change and Biden could eek out a victory in 2024. That's definitely possible. But, just assuming Biden has this in the bag is silly. 2
differentkindahigh Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bloo said: 2020 and 2024 are not the same year. 2020: 2024 (link): Biden won by 44,000 votes across three states while Trump completely failed in response to COVID-19 and was sitting over a botched economy. Now, Biden is in the hot seat. Of course, things can change and Biden could eek out a victory in 2024. That's definitely possible. But, just assuming Biden has this in the bag is silly. Then we better get started on vote shaming the American Palestinians to make sure they vote blue no matter who. Biden will fix this. Just wait. 1 1 3
Distantconstellation Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 It’s not too late to turn around. If Biden comes out and says no more aid to Israel unless they stop stop attacking Gaza and come to some peace agreement things can turn around but he has to do it
byzantium Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 Who would have thought that genocide would be a policy people did not support? It’s incredible how quickly he lost all his goodwill. I know a good amount of left leaning individuals who were pleasantly surprised by his presidency who now are vehemently against him and his administration. 1
GhostBox Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, byzantium said: Who would have thought that genocide would be a policy people did not support? It’s incredible how quickly he lost all his goodwill. I know a good amount of left leaning individuals who were pleasantly surprised by his presidency who now are vehemently against him and his administration. And they rather have Trump and the republicans who just said they want to deport all Palestinians from the US? 💀 1 9
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