celeb news Selena Gomez: "A post won't change what's happening in Israel / Palestine"

[LustSpell]

Why does she always rely on the "mental health social media break" on her main whenever she gets caught up in some controversy  Just make an alt and say what you want if you have to be so loud about it. Whenever she posts, it just screams attention seeking. Go play with your billion dollars and leave us alone

Edited October 31, 2023 by LustSpell

[ForgottenSoul]

44 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Being gay isn't "forbidden in Palestine" because Palestine doesn't have statehood. It's decriminalized in the West Bank and while punishable by law (with prison, not death, they do not have Sharia law, READ A BOOK) in the Gaza strip, it's not enforced. They're a little preoccupied...

 

"The only downside is that people are dying" is a crazy thing to say.

 

Israel is a homophobic country anyway. They don't even have gay marriage and most of the population is against legalizing it. Just so we're clear.

Not sure why you feel the need to lie, Isreal has a lot of gay rights and is pretty much seen as a safe haven for gay people in the Middle East. Tel Aviv is seen as one of the safest cities on the planet for LGBTQ people, what about the arab countries surrounding Israel? Gaza/West Bank are not pro-LGBTQ and trying to muddy those waters is pretty disgusting. LGBTQ people in Israel can't be "married" but do have the same legal benefits that marriage provides. 

 

Anyways regarding Selena, both sides have innocent people and disgusting people, what IDF is doing in the West Bank and Gaza is disgusting but what Hamas is doing is also disgusting. What Pro Palestine people are doing around the world against Jewish people is also disgusting. 

 

People here are so obviously showing their ignorance and no research into this conflict. People dying is bad but the idea that Israel should agree to a ceasefire so Hamas can continue getting more rockets to fire into Israel is insane. Hamas does not want a peaceful solution and they have proven that throughout their history. If a country in the west say Ireland was firing 100s of rockets into the UK every day the idea that the UK should accept a ceasefire would be laughed at. Imagine how many people would be dying if Israel didn't have the iron dome and people want Israel to do nothing? 

 

Isreal has agreed to two state solutions previously the other side(Iran) has not. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by ForgottenSoul

[mrpartyrocker]

6 hours ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

Exactly, even trying to insinuate that we should not care about all the deaths these innocent children and women because the country has a poor human rights track record as it regards to sexuality is INSANE 

I never said you or I shouldn’t care about people’s lives because of their stupid law. Of course it’s sad and upsetting innocent people die! That being said, I’m not picking sides, I truly think politics and religion will ruin this world one day. Me supporting Israel or Palestine will not change anything. How many celebrities have posted and shared their thoughts? Did anyone stop this conflict as y’all keep saying people continue to die as we speak? So why is Selena burnt at stake for something that is totally out of her bubble?

 

Lastly, you should learn to understand that someone has a different opinion and view on this whole situation. It DOES NOT have to be your way. 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

24 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Being gay isn't "forbidden in Palestine" because Palestine doesn't have statehood. It's decriminalized in the West Bank and while punishable by law (with prison, not death, they do not have Sharia law, READ A BOOK) in the Gaza strip, it's not enforced. They're a little preoccupied...

 

"The only downside is that people are dying" is a crazy thing to say.

 

Israel is a homophobic country anyway. They don't even have gay marriage and most of the population is against legalizing it. Just so we're clear.

If i had a dollar every time I see ATRL users turn a blind side to genocide and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians because the people might have been homophobic for the past 3 weeks, i would've emigrated from my country at this point 

[Cloröx]

12 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

Not sure why you feel the need to lie, Isreal has a lot of gay rights and is pretty much seen as a safe haven for gay people in the Middle East. Tel Aviv is seen as one of the safest countries on the planet for LGBTQ people, what about the arab countries surrounding Israel? Gaza/West Bank are not pro-LGBTQ and trying to muddy those waters is pretty disgusting. LGBTQ people in Israel can't be "married" but do have the same legal benefits that marriage provides. 

 

Anyways regarding Selena, both sides have innocent people and disgusting people, what IDF is doing in the West Bank and Gaza is disgusting but what Hamas is doing is also disgusting. What Pro Palestine people are doing around the world against Jewish people is also disgusting. 

 

People here are so obviously showing their ignorance and no research into this conflict. People dying is bad but the idea that Israel should agree to a ceasefire so Hamas can continue getting more rockets to fire into Israel is insane. Hamas does not want a peaceful solution and they have proven that throughout their history. If a country in the west say Ireland was firing 100s of rockets into the UK every day the idea that the UK should accept a ceasefire would be laughed at. Imagine how many people would be dying if Israel didn't have the iron dome and people want Isreal to do nothing? 

Israel

Isreal has agreed to two state solutions previously the other side(Iran) has not. 

There's so many lies in here. When both PLO and Israel signed an agreement for peace guess who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin? The extremist right wing Israelis because it will hinder the ultimate creation of one true ethnostate of Israel. Bare in mind Israel never fully agree with two-state solution otherwise mind explain it to us the annexation of West Bank and those illegal settlements?

Edited October 31, 2023 by Cloröx

[mrpartyrocker]

And it’s funny how you all are busy dragging the celebrities who posted, but when it comes to your own faves who haven’t said anything, you’re all quiet. What about Taylor using her platform considering she is the biggest artist in the world at the moment and clearly she has a bigger influence than Selena? What about Beyonce who just wrapped up a world tour that grossed over 500 million dollars? What about Rihanna or Gaga or Adele or whoever you stan? It’s so easy to throw stones at people like Selena or Kardashians or some other celebrities that are not on the same level as your faves, because they have an instagram page to post on (again, everyone is aware of what’s happening, spreading awareness when everyone is aware of the whole situation is not changing anything) 

 

i won’t even mention the fact that Selena has a lot of kids following her and she mostly appeals to a younger demographic, rather than anyone else, so not sure how that helps anyone during this conflict. Grow up

Edited October 31, 2023 by mrpartyrocker

[Carter]

1 hour ago, Selegend said:

But how do her fans are hypocritical enough to make hate posts about Selena and being silent about her fave that is literally one of the biggest and most impactful artist the world has ever seen and is currently without a care ignoring this issue? 

because they’re using selena as a punching bag for their fav hypocrisy, i love taylor but her fans needs to be studied 

 

pressuring her to comment and when she does she’s at fault making it about her?

thats how she feels about a situation and its valid, yes the gracie comment was stupid but people were attacking her for not being pro palestine enough, and she tried fixing it by that stupid story. 

[corotinho]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Blue_Shirt said:

If i had a dollar every time I see ATRL users turn a blind side to genocide and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians because the people might have been homophobic for the past 3 weeks, i would've emigrated from my country at this point 

You should use that money on some psycho therapy. It's not fine to accept suffer from homophoby just because there are worst thing happening with the homophobic ones. 

[Carter]

8 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

There's so many lies in here. When both PLO and Israel signed an agreement for peace guess who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin? The extremist right wing Israelis because it will hinder the ultimate creation of one true ethnostate of Israel. Bare in mind Israel never fully agree with two-state solution otherwise mind explain it to us the annexation of West Bank and those illegal settlements?

using homophobia to justify genocide is more disgusting than anything anyway. 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

Nah, I wouldn't accept someone's advice who pronouced psychotherapy, "psycho therapy" but thank you for caring though

[VerdantHue]

I get what she is getting at but people are posting to educate everyone on the issue. If it wasn't for these informative posts, I would be so confused on the who what when where and why of it all.

[Carter]

41 minutes ago, Scars said:

She's so obsessed with making herself look like a victim at any given chance. "I'm sorry", girl, be serious.

 

For someone who is literally the most followed woman on Instagram, Selena loves to downplay the influence of social media, doesn't she? Not the first time she says something in the lines of "hashtags won't save lives!" in a condescending tone. She perceives herself to be above social media discourse, but you can tell she completely lacks depth. The irony of it all.

but that’s always has been selena’s issue, she always downplays her influence and impact on people, i think too many years of hate made her feel like that which is understandable, she never felt like she’s enough to the world nor the world made her feel like she’s enough, im not justifying her stupidity but u need to know selena very well to understand her comment 

[ForgottenSoul]

15 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

There's so many lies in here. When both PLO and Israel signed an agreement for peace guess who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin? The extremist right wing Israelis because it will hinder the ultimate creation of one true ethnostate of Israel. Bare in mind Israel never fully agree with two-state solution otherwise mind explain it to us the annexation of West Bank and those illegal settlements?

The UN plan back in 1947 was a two-state solution which Israel agreed to and the arab states didn't who then tried to take down Israel by force and were easily beaten

 

You're also painting a very biased picture of the Rabin situation both sides tried to disrupt it.. hamas was doing suicide bombings. Netanyahu is disgusting and even Israeli people want him gone. 

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/two-state-solution you can read quite a bit here. Netanyahu doesn't want a two-state solution I can agree with that but neither do Hamas and quite a lot of Palestinians, they want to take back pre-Isreal land which I don't see happening. 

 

What seems to happen is Isreal offers a two-state solution Hamas attacks then a right-wing Isreal government wins and stuff goes back years until yet another left-leaning government wins and the cycle continues.

Edited October 31, 2023 by ForgottenSoul

[UnusualB]

5 hours ago, Mean Trees said:

Well I'm surprised that ATRL has stopped treating this grown woman like an infant and is holding her accountable for once.

She’s always been a despicable woman. 
Starting with her BLM comments and her history of instigating the online harassment of women she doesn’t like. 
 

Of course she can use her platform to stalk her ex boyfriends and give likes to Amy Schumer’s horrendous posts but she can’t stand against genocide. 
 

So predictable how she’s trying to turn this around making herself the victim and using her sister to score points in her narrative.
 

Truly a horrible selfish woman.

[More Than A Melody]

4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

Not sure why you feel the need to lie, Isreal has a lot of gay rights and is pretty much seen as a safe haven for gay people in the Middle East. Tel Aviv is seen as one of the safest countries on the planet for LGBTQ people, what about the arab countries surrounding Israel? LGBTQ people in Israel can't be "married" but do have the same legal benefits that marriage provides. 

This is a 2023 poll about same-sex marriage in Israel (source)

 

If the basic notion of equal marriage is opposed by more than half the population), it's a homophobic country. Being less homophobic than your neighbors doesn't mean you're not homophobic. Especially because the premise of Israel was being a European country in the Middle East, and most of its population was refugees from Europe. Every European country in this poll except for Hungary has more "progressive views" than Israel. Since y'alls argument is that Muslims/Arabs are bigoted monsters, and y'all constantly compare yourself to Europe, actually compare yourselves to Europe.

 

Israel is not "one of the safest countries on the planet" for LGBTQ people. Literally 90% of Europe, all of North America, all of South America, all of Oceania and a huge chunk of Asia are safer for LGBTQ people than Israel

 

You need to stop drinking the kool aid from your government. ASAP. The fact that if your partner of choice is not Jewish you can't legally marry them in Israel and if you marry them outside and come back, they can't legally live with you and you can't give them citizenship (unless specific circumstances), even if you're straight, tells you all you need to know about Israel's "democracy." That's much more basic than LGBTQ rights and y'all don't even have that.

 

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Gaza/West Bank are not pro-LGBTQ and trying to muddy those waters is pretty disgusting.

I never said Palestinians were PRO LGBTQ, I said that you're not going to be killed for being gay, because it doesn't abide by Sharia law. It's decriminalized in the West Bank and while it's a crime punishable by law in Gaza it's not enforced. You can read, correct? Don't reply to words I didn't say. You're quoting me, what I said is right there.

 

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Anyways regarding Selena, both sides have innocent people and disgusting people, what IDF is doing in the West Bank and Gaza is disgusting but what Hamas is doing is also disgusting. What Pro Palestine people are doing around the world against Jewish people is also disgusting. 

 

Jewish =/= Israeli. Stop hiding behind Judaism and religion persecution. 99% of people who are anti Israel and Zionism are not antisemitic, a lot of them are Jews themselves. Being pro Palestine means being pro Palestine and has zero correlation to your views about Judaism. Hamas hasn't done anything since October 7. Israel has murdered almost 10 thousand people, half of them children, and displaced over a million. It has destroyed 42% of the housing in Gaza, and multiple hospitals, mosques and schools.

 

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People here are so obviously showing their ignorance and no research into this conflict. People dying is bad but the idea that Israel should agree to a ceasefire so Hamas can continue getting more rockets to fire into Israel is insane. Hamas does not want a peaceful solution and they have proven that throughout their history. If a country in the west say Ireland was firing 100s of rockets into the UK every day the idea that the UK should accept a ceasefire would be laughed at. Imagine how many people would be dying if Israel didn't have the iron dome and people want Israel to do nothing? 

Israel

Isreal has agreed to two state solutions previously the other side(Iran) has not. 

Hamas was founded in 1987 and Israel had already displaced and murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, going all the way back to 1948 when they displaced and murdered 700,000 Palestinians in a single year. I would tell you yo research Nakba, but that's illegal in Israel, so I guess you can't unless you want to be under contempt of your country's laws. Trust me, child, you're the ignorant one here. Most people actually typing thoughtful messages are thoroughly informed.

[Carter]

1 minute ago, UnusualB said:

She’s always been a despicable woman. 
Starting with her BLM comments and her history of instigating the online harassment of women she doesn’t like. 
 

Of course she can use her platform to stalk her ex boyfriends and give likes to Amy Schumer’s horrendous posts but she can’t stand against genocide. 
 

So predictable how she’s trying to turn this around making herself the victim and using her sister to score points in her narrative.
 

Truly a horrible selfish woman.

don’t you have knives to worry about?

the woman she doesn’t like been harassing her for years but she’s at fault when she stood up for herself 

[WEEKND]

Everytime I come across an ig account that's all about "positivity" and how "we should always be nice to one and other " I always refresh my tabs and clear my cookies because I can tell Lucifer is afoot.

 

She proved me right today 

[corotinho]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Blue_Shirt said:

Nah, I wouldn't accept someone's advice who pronouced psychotherapy, "psycho therapy" but thank you for caring though

 

[Communion]

34 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

Not sure why you feel the need to lie, Isreal has a lot of gay rights and is pretty much seen as a safe haven for gay people in the Middle East. Tel Aviv is seen as one of the safest cities on the planet for LGBTQ people, what about the arab countries surrounding Israel? Gaza/West Bank are not pro-LGBTQ and trying to muddy those waters is pretty disgusting. LGBTQ people in Israel can't be "married" but do have the same legal benefits that marriage provides. 

 

Anyways regarding Selena, both sides have innocent people and disgusting people, what IDF is doing in the West Bank and Gaza is disgusting but what Hamas is doing is also disgusting. What Pro Palestine people are doing around the world against Jewish people is also disgusting. 

 

People here are so obviously showing their ignorance and no research into this conflict. People dying is bad but the idea that Israel should agree to a ceasefire so Hamas can continue getting more rockets to fire into Israel is insane. Hamas does not want a peaceful solution and they have proven that throughout their history. If a country in the west say Ireland was firing 100s of rockets into the UK every day the idea that the UK should accept a ceasefire would be laughed at. Imagine how many people would be dying if Israel didn't have the iron dome and people want Israel to do nothing? 

 

Isreal has agreed to two state solutions previously the other side(Iran) has not. 

No one believes these lies at this point. You genuinely have to be a caricature of a white supremacist liberal to think anyone of internet using age can't open up their phone and see nearly all of what you said is a lie. 

 

Hamas agreed to exchange all hostages for the 8000 hostage Palestinians that Israel has taken. Bibi refused. Israel's bombs have killed dozens of hostages. 

 

Hamas' charter does not call for the extermination of Jews, which saw such language being removed years ago, and the allusions of from the river to the sea being no different to literally the charter of the Likud party in Israel, who themselves say Israel must be Jewish from the river to the sea.

 

Wanna know what kills gay Palestinians? Israel drone strikes. 

[ForgottenSoul]

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

This is a 2023 poll about same-sex marriage in Israel (source)

 

If the basic notion of equal marriage is opposed by more than half the population), it's a homophobic country. Being less homophobic than your neighbors doesn't mean you're not homophobic. Especially because the premise of Israel was being a European country in the Middle East, and most of its population was refugees from Europe. Every European country in this poll except for Hungary has more "progressive views" than Israel. Since y'alls argument is that Muslims/Arabs are bigoted monsters, and y'all constantly compare yourself to Europe, actually compare yourselves to Europe.

 

Israel is not "one of the safest countries on the planet" for LGBTQ people. Literally 90% of Europe, all of North America, all of South America, all of Oceania and a huge chunk of Asia are safer for LGBTQ people than Israel

 

You need to stop drinking the kool aid from your government. ASAP. The fact that if your partner of choice is not Jewish you can't legally marry them in Israel and if you marry them outside and come back, they can't legally live with you and you can't give them citizenship (unless specific circumstances), even if you're straight, tells you all you need to know about Israel's "democracy." That's much more basic than LGBTQ rights and y'all don't even have that.

 

I never said Palestinians were PRO LGBTQ, I said that you're not going to be killed for being gay, because it doesn't abide by Sharia law. It's decriminalized in the West Bank and while it's a crime punishable by law in Gaza it's not enforced. You can read, correct? Don't reply to words I didn't say. You're quoting me, what I said is right there.

 

Jewish =/= Israeli. Stop hiding behind Judaism and religion persecution. 99% of people who are anti Israel and Zionism are not antisemitic, a lot of them are Jews themselves. Being pro Palestine means being pro Palestine and has zero correlation to your views about Judaism. Hamas hasn't done anything since October 7. Israel has murdered almost 10 thousand people, half of them children, and displaced over a million. It has destroyed 42% of the housing in Gaza, and multiple hospitals, mosques and schools.

 

Hamas was founded in 1987 and Israel had already displaced and murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, going all the way back to 1948 when they displaced and murdered 700,000 Palestinians in a single year. I would tell you yo research Nakba, but that's illegal in Israel, so I guess you can't unless you want to be under contempt of your country's laws. Trust me, child, you're the ignorant one here. Most people actually typing thoughtful messages are thoroughly informed.

I don't really see how a country not wanting gay marriage just makes them homophobic if they have all the other protections and basically have a system where two gay men have the same legal marriage rights as other people. No, I don't think all Muslims/Arabs are bigoted monsters but Islam has a lot of that bigoted stuff they just love to follow.

 

I said Tel Aviv which is seen as a very pro-LGBTQ city which has the largest pride parade in Asia and the Middle East, are you more likely to be killed for being gay in Israel or a country that follows Sharia law? 

 

Gaza literally has 0 gay rights at all, the West Bank "allows" gay sex. Them not supporting LGBTQ doesn't mean they deserve to die and I never said that or supported that. 

 

 

[Carter]

Just now, ForgottenSoul said:

I don't really see how a country not wanting gay marriage just makes them homophobic

this is even dumber than selena’s statement 

you don’t get to comment sorry lol

[More Than A Melody]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

I don't really see how a country not wanting gay marriage just makes them homophobic if they have all the other protections and basically have a system where two gay men have the same legal marriage rights as other people. No, I don't think all Muslims/Arabs are bigoted monsters but Islam has a lot of that bigoted stuff they just love to follow.

 

I said Tel Aviv which is seen as a very pro-LGBTQ city which has the largest pride parade in Asia and the Middle East, are you more likely to be killed for being gay in Israel or a country that follows Sharia law? 

 

Gaza literally has 0 gay rights at all, the West Bank "allows" gay sex. Them not supporting LGBTQ doesn't mean they deserve to die and I never said that or supported that. 

 

 

This entire message is a mess. I'm not even going to waste my time because I already replied to all of it. You're using straw man arguments to defend a disgrace of a country that shouldn't exist as it is. Have fun. I have more importan things to do. Go back and read my prior message and you'll already have your answer if you need one.

[Cloröx]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

The UN plan back in 1947 was a two-state solution which Israel agreed to and the arab states didn't who then tried to take down Israel by force and were easily beaten

 

You're also painting a very biased picture of the Rabin situation both sides tried to disrupt it.. hamas was doing suicide bombings. Netanyahu is disgusting and even Israeli people want him gone. 

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/two-state-solution you can read quite a bit here. Netanyahu doesn't want a two-state solution I can agree with that but neither do Hamas and quite a lot of Palestinians, they want to take back pre-Isreal land which I don't see happening. 

As usual "Hamas this, Hamas that" card. For the record, West Bank is not under Hamas admin yet people there are constantly facing violence from IDF, and those illegal settlers keep stealing their land. It's understandable on why most Gazan already gave up the idea of two-state solution because Israel is not trustworthy at all and it shows with current genocide (and dozens of similar tragedies for past decades). I don't know why certain people keep targeting Palestine first instead of the real oppressor which is Israel, the victim blaming is very concerning right now.

 

Anyway, Selena truly made a fatal mistake, out of many posts out there why the hell she chose Amy. And her defensive statement truly is a joke. She's a UNICEF ambassador yet she doesn't have a clue or at least do some research about the conflict? 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, shinyshimmery said:

So ya’ll wanna act like Palestine is the only one losing innocent lives? there’s kids in Israel too being offed due to this pointless war. Taking sides in a war is inhumane. We should all be advocating for peace on both sides. 

 

 

[UnusualB]

13 minutes ago, Carter said:

don’t you have knives to worry about?

the woman she doesn’t like been harassing her for years but she’s at fault when she stood up for herself 

Selena has been harassing multiple women for years. Slowly she’s been showing her true colours. A selfish self-centred person.
 

Not standing up against genocide because of how it’s affect her business is nothing out of character for her.

 

Having Trump supporters, racists and genocide supporters in her close social circle

says a lot about her.