celeb news Louis Tomlinson debuts higher tour prices than Taylor Swift in Latin America

[ariananext]

This guy has sold out arenas in Italy too, his ability has to be studied because I swear to god he can't hold a single note and doesn't offer anything spectacle wise 

[glitch]

How's he doing all that but the music is still flopping? Something ain't adding up

[Rose]

Just now, glitch said:

How's he doing all that but the music is still flopping? Something ain't adding up

Larries still exist: 

 

This is the same audience you will find at Harry's shows, except Harry also has part of the general public. 

[Johnny Jacobs]

Harry Styles's ex sure has some nerve 

[More Than A Melody]

19 hours ago, Antikythera said:

Does he really have people to fill a stadium? For me, he is one of the least known from his boy band

He does not. He's severely cutting down the stadiums. This is his map for Allianz Parque (Brazil)

 

This is Taylor Swift's

 

He's basically doing this

 

He's just trying to build a narrative that he's "selling out a stadium" it's kind of pathetic and a huge waste of money.

 

15 hours ago, Drowned8World said:

the reason is inflation. Prices changed A LOT these last months in Argentina.

Not this much tho. I'm in Chile, and we get news about their inflation constantly. His average ticket price is 71.6 and hers is 48.3. That's a 30/35% more and inflation since June has been around 25%. Also, Taylor has a huge production value to take to the country, have you seen Louis' shows? He doesn't even have proper screens. It's like random TVs assorted around the stage projecting static.

[More Than A Melody]

6 hours ago, Rose said:

Larries still exist: 

 

This is the same audience you will find at Harry's shows, except Harry also has part of the general public. 

This is patently untrue. You're just a bitter ex stan. Harry's tour is currently the fifth biggest tour in history. There's about 12K people in that video and it's one of the only shows where he did moderately well. It can't be "the same audience + part of the GP" if Harry is filling out multiple 100K+ venues.

 

Harry is one of the biggest popstars on the planet. Louis is a has been with a captive audience. Don't conflate things.

[Beyonnaise]

If you don’t understand why this is happening, it’s because he accidentally attracted a delusional, rabid cult fanbase of Larries who literally think he in 2023 is still being closeted forcibly by his management while being secretly married to Harry (who he hasn’t been seen in the same room with in almost a decade) and that his son who is like 8 now is an unrelated actor  I almost feel bad for the guy, but it means he’s able to have a more steady touring career than the other flops

Edited October 31, 2023 by Beyonnaise

[KanMap]

13 hours ago, Popboi. said:

That's like celebrating being top 10 on the iTunes pop chart.

[Antikythera]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

He does not. He's severely cutting down the stadiums. This is his map for Allianz Parque (Brazil)

 

This is Taylor Swift's

 

He's basically doing this

 

He's just trying to build a narrative that he's "selling out a stadium" it's kind of pathetic and a huge waste of money.

 

Not this much tho. I'm in Chile, and we get news about their inflation constantly. His average ticket price is 71.6 and hers is 48.3. That's a 30/35% more and inflation since June has been around 25%. Also, Taylor has a huge production value to take to the country, have you seen Louis' shows? He doesn't even have proper screens. It's like random TVs assorted around the stage projecting static.

lol people in this thread told he was super famous

nowadays, everyone has a stadium tour

the only person who hasnt a stadium tour or any tour is Anitta, poor girl

[Drowned8World]

15 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

Not this much tho. I'm in Chile, and we get news about their inflation constantly. His average ticket price is 71.6 and hers is 48.3. That's a 30/35% more and inflation since June has been around 25%. Also, Taylor has a huge production value to take to the country, have you seen Louis' shows? He doesn't even have proper screens. It's like random TVs assorted around the stage projecting static.

AR$72.000 (june) adjusted by inflation are AR$102.000 now. At the time, those 72k were 141 US dollars. 

 

Louis highest ticket costs AR$96.000. Those 96k are 104 US dollars.

 

The inflation in Argentina since june is 42%. Not 25

 

But i agree those prices for him are mental though.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Drowned8World

[More Than A Melody]

9 hours ago, Drowned8World said:

AR$72.000 (june) adjusted by inflation are AR$102.000 now. At the time, those 72k were 141 US dollars. 

 

Louis highest ticket costs AR$96.000. Those 96k are 104 US dollars.

 

The inflation in Argentina since june is 42%. Not 25

 

But i agree those prices for him are mental though.

Nope, official sources have it at 31.5%, I'd forgotten to add June. As I said, Taylor's tickets were 30/35% cheaper. Also, Wages in Argentina are paid monthly during the first few days of the month after the one you worked. So, October salary will be paid in November. Meaning they have to pay with September salary. September minimum wage was $118,000 so with an average ticket of 71.6, that represents 60.7% of minimum wage. Taylor's average of 48.3 represented 60.1% of minimum wage (May was $84,512). IE: his tickets are slightly more expensive. Not a lot more expensive, but slightly.

 

It gets worse when you compare him to himself were his ticket prices in November 2021, his most expensive ticket was 9,500. His most expensive ticket now is 96,000. That's 911% more expensive. Inflation in Argentina in that period of time was 150%

 

Minimum wage on October 2021 was $32.000 and the average price of his tickets was $7,675. That's 24% of minimum wage. He went from 24% to 60.7% like, that's legit insane.

These were Harry's prices in Argentina (on sale Feb 2022). Most expensive ticket was $17.500. Louis' tickets are 448% more expensive.

Inflation since Feb 2022 was 139%

 

If you go by minimum wage, Harry's average ($12,833) represented 40% of minimum wage in February 2022 (minimum wage was $32,000). Once again, Louis' represent 60.7%.

 

And while still very bare bones, Harry's shows are actually a way higher production value than Louis' (wardrobe, lights, smoke, a bigger band, bigger screens). Plus, the artist he is and the demand that he has.

 

He's similarly ripping off his fans in my own country. Chile's inflation is nowhere near this out of control, we had 12.8% in 2022 and 3.3% so far in 2023, less than 16% but his tickets are 46% more expensive now

 

Tickets out Dec 2021

Tickets now

 

Harry's tickets were also $40,000 cheaper in Chile, February last year. This is also significantly higher than inflation.

 

He's taking advantage of the fact that his South American fans are loyal to make up for his incredibly lackluster other legs of tour, which saw him with almost empty amphitheaters and multiple shows in Europe with half empty venues.

 

[BrokenMachine]

He's also headlining a Mexican festival in case his haters need to seethe more 

 

[unclefloprry]

44 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

He's also headlining a Mexican festival in case his haters need to seethe more 

 

people already dragging him in the quotes lmao 

[Blue Rose]

Damn women and men will never be paid equally 

[Blue Rose]

On 10/31/2023 at 10:56 AM, More Than A Melody said:

He's just trying to build a narrative that he's "selling out a stadium" it's kind of pathetic and a huge waste of money.

I don’t think there’s a narrative. This is probably just the venue that was available for his schedule and logistics. He can probably just do one stadium in England and fill it up fully if they wanted a narrative 

[unclefloprry]

On 10/31/2023 at 9:11 AM, Beyonnaise said:

If you don’t understand why this is happening, it’s because he accidentally attracted a delusional, rabid cult fanbase of Larries who literally think he in 2023 is still being closeted forcibly by his management while being secretly married to Harry (who he hasn’t been seen in the same room with in almost a decade) and that his son who is like 8 now is an unrelated actor  I almost feel bad for the guy, but it means he’s able to have a more steady touring career than the other flops

Basically this, I remember tweets from his last tour of "real fans" dragging everyone in attendance bc they were there with Larry stuff, pride flags and they didn't know the lyircs of his songs  or the time they didn't let him sleep because they were singing a harry song outside his tour bus lmao 

[More Than A Melody]

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

I don’t think there’s a narrative. This is probably just the venue that was available for his schedule and logistics. He can probably just do one stadium in England and fill it up fully if they wanted a narrative 

Except they can't because he couldn't sell out the O2 in London. Sao Paulo doesn't have available venues? LMFAO

[Lady Claire]

On 10/31/2023 at 5:23 AM, ariananext said:

This guy has sold out arenas in Italy too, his ability has to be studied because I swear to god he can't hold a single note and doesn't offer anything spectacle wise 

Half of his base (or like 70%) is made of the Larries lunatics. Now that he's openly dragging them i wonder if his ticket sales will suffer

 

1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said:

Except they can't because he couldn't sell out the O2 in London. Sao Paulo doesn't have available venues? LMFAO

I'm from Brazil and i can 100% confirm that he could've booked a smaller venue if he wanted to, there's a lot of them available, especially in São Paulo. His team is def trying to build a "touring act" narrative for him. He wouldn't sell out Allianz at all if he used the whole space, it's the amphitheater mode

[Blue Rose]

1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said:

Except they can't because he couldn't sell out the O2 in London. Sao Paulo doesn't have available venues? LMFAO

They have plenty of venues but this is what happened to fit in his schedule. This happens all the time. No conspiracy theory needed

[More Than A Melody]

13 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

They have plenty of venues but this is what happened to fit in his schedule. This happens all the time. No conspiracy theory needed

He's on the record saying he was offered the same venues he did last year and asked for bigger ones. Retelling reality isn't a conspiracy theory.

[Drowned8World]

6 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Nope, official sources have it at 31.5%, I'd forgotten to add June. As I said, Taylor's tickets were 30/35% cheaper. Also, Wages in Argentina are paid monthly during the first few days of the month after the one you worked. So, October salary will be paid in November. Meaning they have to pay with September salary. September minimum wage was $118,000 so with an average ticket of 71.6, that represents 60.7% of minimum wage. Taylor's average of 48.3 represented 60.1% of minimum wage (May was $84,512). IE: his tickets are slightly more expensive. Not a lot more expensive, but slightly.

 

It gets worse when you compare him to himself were his ticket prices in November 2021, his most expensive ticket was 9,500. His most expensive ticket now is 96,000. That's 911% more expensive. Inflation in Argentina in that period of time was 150%

 

Minimum wage on October 2021 was $32.000 and the average price of his tickets was $7,675. That's 24% of minimum wage. He went from 24% to 60.7% like, that's legit insane.

These were Harry's prices in Argentina (on sale Feb 2022). Most expensive ticket was $17.500. Louis' tickets are 448% more expensive.

Inflation since Feb 2022 was 139%

 

If you go by minimum wage, Harry's average ($12,833) represented 40% of minimum wage in February 2022 (minimum wage was $32,000). Once again, Louis' represent 60.7%.

 

And while still very bare bones, Harry's shows are actually a way higher production value than Louis' (wardrobe, lights, smoke, a bigger band, bigger screens). Plus, the artist he is and the demand that he has.

 

He's similarly ripping off his fans in my own country. Chile's inflation is nowhere near this out of control, we had 12.8% in 2022 and 3.3% so far in 2023, less than 16% but his tickets are 46% more expensive now

 

Tickets out Dec 2021

Tickets now

 

Harry's tickets were also $40,000 cheaper in Chile, February last year. This is also significantly higher than inflation.

 

He's taking advantage of the fact that his South American fans are loyal to make up for his incredibly lackluster other legs of tour, which saw him with almost empty amphitheaters and multiple shows in Europe with half empty venues.

 

Por qué estas tratando de discutirme y explicarme la economía, inflación y formas de pago de los salarios de mi propio pais como si no viviera acá y no supiera el descontrol de precios que hay? jajaj Los precios de los tickets no solo actualizan por inflación, sino tambien por la subida del dólar de los últimos 2 meses que pasó de valor 800 a 1000 en una semana. 

La inflación acumulada entre junio y fines de septiembre es literalmente 42%. No 25, no 31. Los datos de octubre se conocen recien en 15-10 dias.

 

Tampoco estoy haciendo una comparación directa de cual ticket es más caro porque hay que tener muchísimas más cosas en cuenta como capacidad del estadio, costos de producción, etc. Simplemente dije que los valores lógicamente van a ser mayores en una economía inflacionaria como la argentina. Los 73k de junio (cuando se pusieron a la venta las entradas de Taylor) ya no valen lo mismo. El post original de este hilo hizo una comparación en valores nominales en vez de reales.

 

Hace vos mismo las cuentas:

JUN 6%

JUL 6,3%

AGO 12,4%

SEP 12,8%

=42,8%

 

 

 

[More Than A Melody]

4 minutes ago, Drowned8World said:

Por qué estas tratando de discutirme y explicarme la economía, inflación y formas de pago de los salarios de mi propio pais como si no viviera acá y no supiera el descontrol de precios que hay? jajaj Los precios de los tickets no solo actualizan por inflación, sino tambien por la subida del dólar de los últimos 2 meses que pasó de valor 800 a 1000 en una semana. 

La inflación acumulada entre junio y fines de septiembre es literalmente 42%. No 25, no 31. Los datos de octubre se conocen recien en 15-10 dias.

 

Tampoco estoy haciendo una comparación directa de cual ticket es más caro porque hay que tener muchísimas más cosas en cuenta como capacidad del estadio, costos de producción, etc. Simplemente dije que los valores lógicamente van a ser mayores en una economía inflacionaria como la argentina. Los 73k de junio (cuando se pusieron a la venta las entradas de Taylor) ya no valen lo mismo. El post original de este hilo hizo una comparación en valores nominales en vez de reales.

 

Hace vos mismo las cuentas:

JUN 6%

JUL 6,3%

AGO 12,4%

SEP 12,8%

=42,8%

 

 

 

Dude, his own ticket is 46% more expensive in my country than it was the last time and 900%++ more expensive than what it was on yours. I will not argue this any further if you're going to grab a single percentage digit to undermine an entire essay.

 

My pronouns are she/her they're right below my photo. June's inflation doesn't count if her tickets were released in June. Inflation is for the entire month of June and compared to May. I obviously couldn't add October because it's not been released. Hence 31.5%.

 

ETA: 6 + 6.3 + 12.4 + 12.8 = is not even 42.8. It's 37.5% so you're not even right about that (which is wrong in and of itself because June shouldn't be included).

Edited November 1, 2023 by More Than A Melody

[Drowned8World]

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

Dude, his own ticket is 46% more expensive in my country than it was the last time and 900%++ more expensive than what it was on yours. I will not argue this any further if you're going to grab a single percentage digit to undermine an entire essay.

 

My pronouns are she/her they're right below my photo. June's inflation doesn't count if her tickets were released in June. Inflation is for the entire month of June and compared to May. I obviously couldn't add October because it's not been released. Hence 31.5%.

Claramente no entendiste nada y tenes unas ganas de discutir bárbaras del aburrimiento que tenes. Y no sé qué tiene que ver tus pronombres... 

 

Lo repito una vez más y se terminó. El post original de este hilo hizo una comparación de precios NOMINAL entre unos tickets puestos a la venta a principios de junio con unos de octubre. Entre junio y fines de septiembre hubo una inflación acumulada del 42% (y es aún más porque las entradas de Louis se pusieron a la venta a fines de octubre, casi toda la inflación de ese mes tambien se incluye). 

 

Yo dije que es lógico que los valores de Louis sean más altos cuando hay tanta inflación en el medio. Simplemente eso, no es tan dificil de entender. No hace falta que hagas cuentas, ni veas las fechas de pagos de salarios, ni veas el porcentaje que representa el valor de una entrada ni nada.

 

Las entradas se pusieran a la venta el 5 de junio. A vos te parece que 5 dias menos de inflación van a hacer la gran diferencia cuando encima estamos comparando con precios de FINES de octubre de los cuales todavia ni tenemos datos y que lógicamente va a ser mayor?