celeb news GWR- Madonna still biggest selling and touring female artist of all time

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Writing essays won't make madonnas catalog sell. Now her fans cry if I say she is untalented and washed up
Madonna had to do all that because her talent wasn't enough to sell her work. Simple as that

Edited October 29, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb

[adylovestaylorandjb]

5 hours ago, LOTF said:

I can tell you're not emotionally mature lmao

Grow a backbone 

You are mature? Because all I pointed about inflated mess? That is quite funny because you couldn't handle a disagreement. I didn't insult anyone Initially. Maybe don't jump on people if u r so mature

 

3 hours ago, Sweetness said:

like I said in another thread how many real performer weather Britney or Madonna, Prince etc would do a 150 date stadium tour? Physically it take a toll on your body, Taylor isn't doing anything but walking side to side on the stage. There's a reason why everyone I mentioned have hip,leg problems.

Good for my fave. She doesn't need to. We go to enjoy her music. Excuses. 

 

1 hour ago, spree said:

He probably did and screamed UNITS UNITS FREE STREAMS TIKTOK BASIC EQUIVALENT UNITS!! 
 

 

There are thousand of them which only equate one sale. Infact they reach far more people than pure sales ever did. And Madonna never had star power to open a movie like this! Don't even start where u will lose

 

3 hours ago, Sweetness said:

None of these celebrities networths are real, it's for people who are gulliable such as yourself. How many more times do these celebrites with the  billion doller net worth have to be exposed? Giselle said her networth was a lie, Lil Wayne and Zendaya are some who have admitted this. Were suppose to believe Jay z, Kayne West, Kardashians, Donald Trump, Rihanna etc are billionaires?

Bloobmerg is more reliable than forbes. Should I trust them or some internet troll like u? Rofl

[adylovestaylorandjb]

5 hours ago, GlamSlam said:

lmfao. You still haven't provided a sufficient answer to my question, so I'll ask for the third time. If Madonna was all about media stunts, cheap tactics and controversy, how come Crazy for You, Into The Groove, Live to Tell, Open Your Heart, La Isla Bonita, True Blue, Who's That Girl, This Used to be my Playground, Take a Bow, Frozen, Beautiful Stranger, American Pie, Music and so on...all went to #1?

 

Like a Prayer followed 25m selling albums such as Like a Virgin and True Blue, so there's no way it wouldn't have gone to number one with or without the controversy. You're talking as if she was the only controversial artist in the world, and yet Prince and Michael Jackson were far more controversial at the time. Prince was literally singing about va*inas and writing songs about incest, not to mention using his guitar to m*sturbate on stage. Michael Jackson's career is littered with gimmicks and taboo subjects, so where's your outcry over them and do they lack talent? The same can be said for U2, Sinead O Connor and so on. The list is endless....it's art, nothing more.  If Madonna lacks talent and her success was all down to "business acumen", then surely (by your logic) an excellent businessman like Elon Musk would've also conquered the music industry too. lol.

 

Many people view your fave as a good businesswoman with little talent, so your logic amounts to the same thing you're attacking Madonna for.

 

TS could very well surpass Madonna in touring, but she will never compare to what Madonna did for music. The Queen of Pop has continuously pushed boundaries, challenged societal norms, and redefined what it means to be a pop star. Her provocative image to her groundbreaking music and fearless attitude is simply the tip of the iceberg, not to mention her wealth of mega-classics standing the test of time. Whether other females will have fans listening to their music 40 years from now remains to be seen, but it's highly unlikely given the fact a lot of their songs aren't classics and pale by comparison.

 

 

I never denied her initial success at all? But later on she started doing all cheap media stunts ro stay relevant. It is fact. Look it up. She made a whole career on her stunts to hide her lack of talent. 

 

I don't follow others to comment on.. For mj , I have worse views as person.  Madonna was also street smart business person and knew how to sell her product. 

 

Taylor is doing for current industry. It's like saying Madonna surpasses aretha when their impacts are different. Taylor impact is her own. Like speaking for small musicians, billions of economic effect etc. Impact can't be counted. Taylor catalog sells like hot cakes even after all these years. Whereas most pop stars leave charts after some years. Madonna's most hits have terrible stats compared to previous legacy artists. Most songs are forgotten.. So I have to disagree. What u see as groundbreaking, others don't. 

[Chris]

10 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

She didn't and thag is what amnters.

Thag is what amnters?

 

What does that even mean?

 

[Chris]

11 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

Not to mention in USA, she never had same touring power unlike her power in other countries

Yet nearly all of her USA shows have been sold out though.

 

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

Writing your own delusion and wish won't take your idol higher either.

Deal with the queen of pops continuing reign.

Yours will never. 

First, find the right thread for your idol and you to write your will can may shall essay. It's not the right place for your idol to be chanted here anyway.

 

[Chris]

Where did she have a terrible show in the United States though?

 

Last time I checked since Drowned World she has sold out several arenas and stadiums in the U.S.

[Chris]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

She made a whole career on her stunts to hide her lack of talent. 

So? Her lack of talent is why we all love her so much.

 

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

His ignorance is laughable.

Madonna was the only female who did sell more than 300k tickets in the us alone when reserving started during 90s and market was not as big as today.

When there was no internet, Madonna had records of fast selling out tickets in the us everywhere and the first pop star who toured stadiums even before Michael Jackson did.

He keeps telling us about her history To show his ignorance.

I'm like shut the f up.

Edited October 29, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna

[adylovestaylorandjb]

2 hours ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

Madonna never enjoyed and wanted longer tours so don't even try. She used to say she wouldn't go on another tour after one just finished because she usually goes on to the next project or likes to have rests with the family. She never enjoyed the long to death schedule.

I'm not putting down the sales. Just stating the facts about the sales in history. If you feel it's  put down,  then that's you're problem. Pure sales will never be the same as 'equivalent' Thats a fact. So your turn to not cry.

Who decides the rules anyway when  the sales method between them doesnt apply in different eras or decades and the record industry keeps evolving and getting different in each decade ??

 

The tour market is oversaturated and inflated. That's a fact. Very different from 80 90 and 00s because it keeps growing and getting bigger and bigger As time goes by. 

I didn't state anything wrong.

 

Lastly you went over here to put down madonnas achievement first and stirred the thread. 

We were just celebrating her achievement but you brought taylor and threw out your blah blah blah that we never asked or were not even curious. We didn't even ask how she was doing. And you stated delusions. 

So don't even preach what she will sell after giving gimmicks of discount sales for her inflated no.1s. Manipulation doesn't seem cute. I don't think that's luxury And proper result.

Just desperate and cheap chart stunts

We don't count ifs n whts. You can't claim someone to biggest touring act of all time and see her surpassed by newer gen act by good margin. Even their biggest tours have countless differences. 

 

So touring gross don't matter. But forgetting internet ruined pure sales and u don't wanna put that in context. So u cherry pick points which suits Madonna and then ignore which hurts her? That is funny😂

 

So equivalent don't count bcoz u don't like it? Well industry counts it and ifpi counts it. Noone cares about pure sales in 2023. Come to modern world.  Your fave even at peao couldn't open movies like this in her dreams. 

 

You can celebrate. It is forum not her temple. She is selly 1.5 million units with old album without any chart trick. Don't spew bs when u have no answer😂

Edited October 29, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb

[adylovestaylorandjb]

5 minutes ago, Chris said:

Yet nearly all of her USA shows have been sold out though.

 

I meant amount of stadiums. Her her sweet tour, her biggest ones had many arenas and few stadiums there. She maxed out her stadium capacity in that tour. So how would she sell 150 dates? In fantasy land

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

We don't count ifs n whts. You can't claim someone to biggest touring act of all time and see her surpassed by newer gen act by good margin. Even their biggest tours have countless differences. 

 

So touring gross don't matter. But forgetting internet ruined pure sales and u don't wanna put that in context. So u cherry pick points which suits Madonna and then ignore which hurts her? That is funny😂

 

So equivalent don't count bcoz u don't like it? Well industry counts it and ifpi counts it. Noone cares about pure sales in 2023. Come to modern world.  Your fave even at peao couldn't open movies like this in her dreams. 

 

You can celebrate. It is forum not her temple. She is selly 1.5 million units with old album without any chart trick. Don't spew bs when u have no answer😂

Or course your ignorance and delusion don't count foremost. 

It's not a place for your delusional essay.

[adylovestaylorandjb]

5 minutes ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

Writing your own delusion and wish won't take your idol higher either.

Deal with the queen of pops continuing reign.

Yours will never. 

First, find the right thread for your idol and you to write your will can may shall essay. It's not the right place for your idol to be chanted here anyway.

 

My fave is about to be best selling female artist of all time. With most 20 million plus album, biggest tour, biggest concert movie. We will cope don't worry. Old records eill be broken and burnt to ashes

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Just now, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

Or course your ignorance and delusion don't count foremost. 

It's not a place for your delusional essay.

Aww don't cry. Do u need tissue? 

[Chris]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

I meant amount of stadiums. Her her sweet tour, her biggest ones had many arenas and few stadiums there. She maxed out her stadium capacity in that tour. So how would she sell 150 dates? In fantasy land

Back in Madonna's prime in the 80s and 90s, the touring market wasn't as established as the way it is today.

 

Like what is not clicking?

 

[adylovestaylorandjb]

8 minutes ago, Chris said:

Thag is what amnters?

 

What does that even mean?

 

That is what matters. Sorry u all have written so many replies. I was typing fast

[Chris]

Just now, adylovestaylorandjb said:

That is what matters. Sorry u all have written so many replies. I was typing fast

Mavis Beacon is your friend, Sybill.

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Just now, Chris said:

Back in Madonna's prime in the 80s and 90s, the touring market wasn't as established as the way it is today.

 

Like what is not clicking?

 

Same way when we point our pure sales has gone to hell because of digital gen, why isn't it clicking to her cult? You want it both ways

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

I meant amount of stadiums. Her her sweet tour, her biggest ones had many arenas and few stadiums there. She maxed out her stadium capacity in that tour. So how would she sell 150 dates? In fantasy land

Like we said she doesn't do 150 dates herself. Something she doesn't do and even want to. So keep your fantasy within yourself

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Just now, Chris said:

Mavis Beacon is your friend, Sybill.

Aww we r now sticking to insulta because u couldnt digest fact. 

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Just now, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

Like we said she doesn't do 150 dates herself. Something she doesn't do and even want to. So keep your fantasy within yourself

She couldn't because she didn't have demand for 150 stadiums. Ifs n what's don't count

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

2 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

My fave is about to be best selling female artist of all time. With most 20 million plus album, biggest tour, biggest concert movie. We will cope don't worry. Old records eill be broken and burnt to ashes

You're the one who brings about to game. So stay pressed with your tissue

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

She couldn't because she didn't have demand for 150 stadiums. Ifs n what's don't count

No she won't. So keep yourself for your demand.

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

She never wants to do 100 plus tour. So keep the delusional fantasy essay in your diary

[Chris]

2 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

Same way when we point our pure sales has gone to hell because of digital gen, why isn't it clicking to her cult? You want it both ways

Because you make it seem like Madonna doesn't have demand for touring when she obviously does.

 

 

Come on now. She was supposed to do 35 dates originally and more shows had to be added.

 

As to why Madonna personally doesn't want to do stadiums, I have no clue. But it's not because of lack of demand.