thequeenofpopmadonna Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Swiftie troll accept it. Your idol have zero talent in dance and performance. I don't go to her boring shows. You wish your idol had the performance as much diversity as the queen. Don't get pressed because the queen has done it all before your idol was even born and is too big of an icon now. Bigger than anybody. Edited October 28, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna 3 2 2
Sweetness Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Her catalog sells slow. Someone is selling 40 million album units this year and isn't slowing down.. Madonna catalog sales are beyond pathetic at this point to cover the difference. Her shock factor don't sell her catalog. Yeah I was told the same thing several weeks ago by a Taylor fan, that she had sold very little since her sales were last updated now here we are at 400 million. Madonna has a biopic and new album coming out next year and some reissues with a successful tour, she'll be fine, those streams will increase. 5
LOTF Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 8 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Aww personal attacks by Madonna fans. I haven't said any harsh word for her. Gwr is pr move because she knew she is going to get outsold soon. She wishes her shock factor could sell her music. But her tragic streams say someone else Telling you to stop pestering a thread celebrating Madonna's achievements and accomplishments is not a personal attack. I'd strongly recommend you to stick to threads about Taylor though. With the attention you're giving to Queen of Pop Madonna, I fear you'll miss when ifpi does whatever you said you were expecting them to do 2 2
LOTF Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Omg some kinda swiftie troll gets insecure and keeps pressed because the queen of pop madonna stands. What's the deal when the tour market is much bigger and inflated to death and oversaturated in grosses and the ticket prices than 80 and 90s even 00s??? And when streaming gets free even if you don't go out and pay for actual records to be purchased and considered as same as real sales?? Even taylor makes big discount sales of digital singles of cruel summer to inflate her no.1s records again??? That's the gimmicks. She will never beat madonna for records sales even if her versions are re-released gimmicks. Deal with it. CLOCK IT! 2
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said: Omg some kinda swiftie troll gets insecure and keeps pressed because the queen of pop madonna stands. What's the deal when the tour market is much bigger and inflated to death and oversaturated in grosses and the ticket prices than 80 and 90s even 00s??? And when streaming gets free even if you don't go out and pay for actual records to be purchased and considered as same as real sales?? Even taylor makes big discount sales of digital singles of cruel summer to inflate her no.1s records again??? That's the gimmicks. She will never beat madonna for records sales even if her versions are re-released gimmicks. Deal with it. It's crazy u wanna use outdated pure sales to put down taylors album equivalent. But at same time u r crying about touring market. Either be consistent at your argument. Madonna is one of biggest touring act of all time but she never had star power to sell 150 stadiums in single tour. In fact her biggest tour with 85 dates still fall short of taylor's tour without American dates. It's not about gross with inflation but amount of dates! She will be surpassed in album equivalents and no one will care about outdated pure sales. Touring, sales , net worth. She is getting surpassed in all.. Now cope 4
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, The7thStranger said: Well, if you’re going to posit the theory, you have to back it up with concrete evidence and examples. You were asked what the cheap tactics were that got those songs to #1. What were they? Like a prayer era was prime example of her using media stunts. Then erotica. Etc. In the name of artistic expression to cover her lack of evident talent. 4 hours ago, GlamSlam said: Pmsl. You still haven't answered my question. In what way were any of those songs shocking and controversial? Besides, nobody gets to experience 40 years of longevity, sell 400m records, or become the biggest female touring artist if they lack talent. That doesn't make sense. That is called business mind. Not talent. She is soon going to be surpassed as biggest touring act. . Madonna controversy and her pr media moves are out to everyone. Use google. I am not your teacher. 5 hours ago, LOTF said: Gurl, the ABSOLUTE OBSESSION Multiple posts back to back I'm SCREAMING Sad and pathetic If you quote me and expect me to stay silent. Then u t deluded. There is no obsession but argument in site where cans boast about numbers whole day. 7 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: Fume more delulu Yup we can see her fanbase is fuming because she got overtaken in so many areas and will be overtaken in many more. Her music hasn't stood the test of time Edited October 28, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb 1 3
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, LOTF said: Telling you to stop pestering a thread celebrating Madonna's achievements and accomplishments is not a personal attack. I'd strongly recommend you to stick to threads about Taylor though. With the attention you're giving to Queen of Pop Madonna, I fear you'll miss when ifpi does whatever you said you were expecting them to do You don't one the site to order me around. Sit down 2 1
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sweetness said: Yeah I was told the same thing several weeks ago by a Taylor fan, that she had sold very little since her sales were last updated now here we are at 400 million. Madonna has a biopic and new album coming out next year and some reissues with a successful tour, she'll be fine, those streams will increase. She has sold very less in catalog. Selling pr articles with inflated numbers won't make it correct. Mariah team used to clam her as best selling female artist. Do Madonna fans agreed then? Nope. She barely sell physicals. Her streams are terrible. Where is she selling? Mars. Even they increase. They can't match someone selling 40 million units a year. She will be soon overtaken as best selling female artist. Like she got outoured and as well in net worth Edited October 28, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb 4
LOTF Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: You don't one the site to order me around. Sit down I can tell you're not emotionally mature lmao Grow a backbone
GlamSlam Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Like a prayer era was prime example of her using media stunts. Then erotica. Etc. In the name of artistic expression to cover her lack of evident talent. That is called business mind. Not talent. She is soon going to be surpassed as biggest touring act. Madonna controversy and her pr media moves are out to everyone. Use google. I am not your teacher. lmfao. You still haven't provided a sufficient answer to my question, so I'll ask for the third time. If Madonna was all about media stunts, cheap tactics and controversy, how come Crazy for You, Into The Groove, Live to Tell, Open Your Heart, La Isla Bonita, True Blue, Who's That Girl, This Used to be my Playground, Take a Bow, Frozen, Beautiful Stranger, American Pie, Music and so on...all went to #1? Like a Prayer followed 25m selling albums such as Like a Virgin and True Blue, so there's no way it wouldn't have gone to number one with or without the controversy. You're talking as if she was the only controversial artist in the world, and yet Prince and Michael Jackson were far more controversial at the time. Prince was literally singing about va*inas and writing songs about incest, not to mention using his guitar to m*sturbate on stage. Michael Jackson's career is littered with gimmicks and taboo subjects, so where's your outcry over them and do they lack talent? The same can be said for U2, Sinead O Connor and so on. The list is endless....it's art, nothing more. If Madonna lacks talent and her success was all down to "business acumen", then surely (by your logic) an excellent businessman like Elon Musk would've also conquered the music industry too. lol. Many people view your fave as a good businesswoman with little talent, so your logic amounts to the same thing you're attacking Madonna for. TS could very well surpass Madonna in touring, but she will never compare to what Madonna did for music. The Queen of Pop has continuously pushed boundaries, challenged societal norms, and redefined what it means to be a pop star. Her provocative image to her groundbreaking music and fearless attitude is simply the tip of the iceberg, not to mention her wealth of mega-classics standing the test of time. Whether other females will have fans listening to their music 40 years from now remains to be seen, but it's highly unlikely given the fact a lot of their songs aren't classics and pale by comparison. 4 2 1
spiritboy Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Nobody gives a fcuk about Taylor here. If you have a problem, go write/tweet to Guiness World Records. 5
GlamSlam Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: She has sold very less in catalog. Selling pr articles with inflated numbers won't make it correct. Mariah team used to clam her as best selling female artist. Do Madonna fans agreed then? Nope. She barely sell physicals. Her streams are terrible. Where is she selling? Mars. Even they increase. They can't match someone selling 40 million units a year. She will be soon overtaken as best selling female artist. Like she got outoured and as well in net worth You are so embarrassing, not to mention delusional. 3
Chris Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Madonna is one of biggest touring act of all time but she never had star power to sell 150 stadiums in single tour. In fact her biggest tour with 85 dates still fall short of taylor's tour without American dates. Madonna could have done 150 stadium dates during Who's That Girl Tour, Blonde Ambition, Drowned World, Reinvention, Confessions, and most definitely Sticky & Sweet Tour. She just didn't choose to. 1 3
Chris Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 I think with the Celebration Tour if it was a stadium tour, she could have grossed a bunch and it would have been one of the highest grossing female tours. 3
LOTF Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, GlamSlam said: lmfao. You still haven't provided a sufficient answer to my question, so I'll ask for the third time. If Madonna was all about media stunts, cheap tactics and controversy, how come Crazy for You, Into The Groove, Live to Tell, Open Your Heart, La Isla Bonita, True Blue, Who's That Girl, This Used to be my Playground, Take a Bow, Frozen, Beautiful Stranger, American Pie, Music and so on...all went to #1? Like a Prayer followed 25m selling albums such as Like a Virgin and True Blue, so there's no way it wouldn't have gone to number one with or without the controversy. You're talking as if she was the only controversial artist in the world, and yet Prince and Michael Jackson were far more controversial at the time. Prince was literally singing about va*inas and writing songs about incest, not to mention using his guitar to m*sturbate on stage. Michael Jackson's career is littered with gimmicks and taboo subjects, so where's your outcry over them and do they lack talent? The same can be said for U2, Sinead O Connor and so on. The list is endless....it's art, nothing more. If Madonna lacks talent and her success was all down to "business acumen", then surely (by your logic) an excellent businessman like Elon Musk would've also conquered the music industry too. lol. Many people view your fave as a good businesswoman with little talent, so your logic amounts to the same thing you're attacking Madonna for. TS could very well surpass Madonna in touring, but she will never compare to what Madonna did for music. The Queen of Pop has continuously pushed boundaries, challenged societal norms, and redefined what it means to be a pop star. Her provocative image to her groundbreaking music and fearless attitude is simply the tip of the iceberg, not to mention her wealth of mega-classics standing the test of time. Whether other females will have fans listening to their music 40 years from now remains to be seen, but it's highly unlikely given the fact a lot of their songs aren't classics and pale by comparison. EVISCERATE HA! 1
Sweetness Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, Chris said: Madonna could have done 150 stadium dates during Who's That Girl Tour, Blonde Ambition, Drowned World, Reinvention, Confessions, and most definitely Sticky & Sweet Tour. She just didn't choose to. like I said in another thread how many real performer weather Britney or Madonna, Prince etc would do a 150 date stadium tour? Physically it take a toll on your body, Taylor isn't doing anything but walking side to side on the stage. There's a reason why everyone I mentioned have hip,leg problems. 2
poki Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 All I can say to Swifties who try to come for Madonna (and Beyonce, based on various threads I've seen this summer) is: "It's just an empty cup" - Doc Hudson, Cars 2006. OT: Congrats to Madonna 1 3
Sweetness Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: She has sold very less in catalog. Selling pr articles with inflated numbers won't make it correct. Mariah team used to clam her as best selling female artist. Do Madonna fans agreed then? Nope. She barely sell physicals. Her streams are terrible. Where is she selling? Mars. Even they increase. They can't match someone selling 40 million units a year. She will be soon overtaken as best selling female artist. Like she got outoured and as well in net worth None of these celebrities networths are real, it's for people who are gulliable such as yourself. How many more times do these celebrites with the billion doller net worth have to be exposed? Giselle said her networth was a lie, Lil Wayne and Zendaya are some who have admitted this. Were suppose to believe Jay z, Kayne West, Kardashians, Donald Trump, Rihanna etc are billionaires? Edited October 29, 2023 by Sweetness misspelled 1
Chris Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, Sweetness said: like I said in another thread how many real performer weather Britney or Madonna, Prince etc would do a 150 date stadium tour? Physically it take a toll on your body, Taylor isn't doing anything but walking side to side on the stage. There's a reason why everyone I mentioned have hip,leg problems. Exactly. Madonna's tours are very physically demanding. @adylovestaylorandjb Capice? 3
LatinFreak Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 8:43 AM, ChapelHooker said: there's only one queen <3 She is and she always will be.... Others will have to settle for being the fake PR industry. 2
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: It's crazy u wanna use outdated pure sales to put down taylors album equivalent. But at same time u r crying about touring market. Either be consistent at your argument. Madonna is one of biggest touring act of all time but she never had star power to sell 150 stadiums in single tour. In fact her biggest tour with 85 dates still fall short of taylor's tour without American dates. It's not about gross with inflation but amount of dates! She will be surpassed in album equivalents and no one will care about outdated pure sales. Touring, sales , net worth. She is getting surpassed in all.. Now cope Madonna never enjoyed and wanted longer tours so don't even try. She used to say she wouldn't go on another tour after one just finished because she usually goes on to the next project or likes to have rests with the family. She never enjoyed the long to death schedule. I'm not putting down the sales. Just stating the facts about the sales in history. If you feel it's put down, then that's you're problem. Pure sales will never be the same as 'equivalent' Thats a fact. So your turn to not cry. Who decides the rules anyway when the sales method between them doesnt apply in different eras or decades and the record industry keeps evolving and getting different in each decade ?? The tour market is oversaturated and inflated. That's a fact. Very different from 80 90 and 00s because it keeps growing and getting bigger and bigger As time goes by. I didn't state anything wrong. Lastly you went over here to put down madonnas achievement first and stirred the thread. We were just celebrating her achievement but you brought taylor and threw out your blah blah blah that we never asked or were not even curious. We didn't even ask how she was doing. And you stated delusions. So don't even preach what she will sell after giving gimmicks of discount sales for her inflated no.1s. Manipulation doesn't seem cute. I don't think that's luxury And proper result. Just desperate and cheap chart stunts Edited October 29, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna 2
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) someone is busy putting down Madonna as tactics media stunts, and controversy, but his idol is busy selling songs as cheap as many discount sales to inflate and manipulate charts and no.1s Lol And talks and uses her exes all the time or diss exes ex to sell records lol As if she didn't do any tactics and media stunts lol Yeah right. I know one thing though. She's been shutting her mouth about politics and sensitive issues because it might hurt her sales number. And obviously they will call her a business mind. But a so called icon when she doesn't do anything impactful or meaningful to give the world anything except for her cheap discounted songs which nobody will remember except for her swifty babies. She doesnt contribute to the world anything and will be muted as a coward because she wont have guts of an icon madonna. You won't share the same as our queen, so give it up. The queen will be madonna cemented already. yeah keep being muted and walk side to side just on stage. no stage presence whatsoever For expensive tickets I will never intend to buy. its good for you then, Because dump swifties will love and stream your chesp discounted Girly songs which no one will remember and be gone quicker than a ray of light. I'm not interested, to be honest, so leave us alone and let us allow our queens achievement and legacy. No one even asked for your attention about Madonna either. Your idol will never. Find the right thread first. Go back to your girly swiftie tingleland already. Edited October 29, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna 1
spree Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, spiritboy said: Nobody gives a fcuk about Taylor here. If you have a problem, go write/tweet to Guiness World Records. He probably did and screamed UNITS UNITS FREE STREAMS TIKTOK BASIC EQUIVALENT UNITS!! 1 2 1
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chris said: Madonna could have done 150 stadium dates during Who's That Girl Tour, Blonde Ambition, Drowned World, Reinvention, Confessions, and most definitely Sticky & Sweet Tour. She just didn't choose to. Couldve wouldve shouldve don't matter. She didn't and that is what matters. Not to mention in USA, she never had same touring power unlike her power in other countries. Edited October 29, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb 1
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