FENTY. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: The Eras Tour's predicted Europe gross - 350-400M Rihanna's career gross globally - 376M OT : Good luck to her with booking that stage you speak of So it took Taylor 10 albums and like what three re-recordings to catch up with Rihanna’s tour gross in Europe? Good to know
Devin Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: How does this change anything that was said? Taylor was struggling with her European dates at some point. Good for her she's doing great then, but why are swifties surprised people are bringing up her past struggles when they're doing it with Rih too Like my goodness y'all are annoying Exactly. 1
Scott Borchetta Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Devin said: P!nks current all-stadium tour in the US are mixed MLB and NFL stadiums just like Gagas last year. Y’all saying n-e-thing at this point. The only NFL stadium Gaga did was MetLife which anyone and their mother can do There should be nothing controversial about saying Rihanna, who has never had a 150M grossing tour in her life, and Gaga, who has not had a 150M grossing tour in the last 10 years, don’t have the demand to match women who are competing with only Madonna. You’re the one talking nonsense. 2 2
Devin Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Rihanna (like Drake) can easily tour stadiums regardless of performance skills, she has a solid discography of WW hits that will draw people to see her live. Plus she generated massive hype since ANTI.
Feanor Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, FENTY. said: Rihanna was doing stadiums in Europe while Taylor could barely sell out an arena in 2013. Don’t get it twisted The clinging on to 2013 receipts, when Rihanna has had a more recent tour that's more indicative of her touring power, a tour that neither sold out stadiums in Europe… Nor did it sell out her arena leg in the US: Taylor did not do well in Europe in 2013… because she was still a country artist. What excuse did Rihanna have for not managing to sell out her shows in either Europe or North America after her 8th album and on her 7th concert tour? 6 1 1
WildHeart Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FENTY. said: to catch up with Rihanna’s tour gross in Europe? Good to know To catch up Rihanna's worldwide lifetime gross with only one Europe leg* Edited October 23, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 4
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said: Past struggles = becoming the first female artist ever to book 2 stadium shows in the biggest stadium of Dublin At some point Taylor was struggling. Her Speak Now European leg bombed so hard she only toured two European countries for her whole Red tour, and only had one mainland Europe date then. She's clearly doing well now, good for her, but it is true it took a while for her European gross to get to where it is now. You can be snarky and everything and that doesn't change that. Again, if you're going to rehash the same drags from seven years ago, don't be surprised when someone does the same thing 1
FENTY. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Feanor said: The clinging on to 2013 receipts, when Rihanna has had a more recent tour that's more indicative of her touring power, a tour that neither sold out stadiums in Europe… Nor did it sell out her arena leg in the US: Taylor did not do well in Europe in 2013… because she was still a country artist. What excuse did Rihanna have for not managing to sell out her shows in either Europe or North America after her 8th album and on her 7th concert tour? Not a country artist when she released singles like IKYWT and WEANEGBT that same year
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Feanor said: The clinging on to 2013 receipts, when Rihanna has had a more recent tour 2016 is closer to 2013 than it is to 2023 Swifties: Y'all are bringing up old receipts!!!1 Also swifites: Post receipts that are 7 years old 4 2
istan4badgalriri Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Taylor played 2 shows in Ireland during Reputation tour, first female artist to do so. She sold most amount of tickets for a female artist ever back then. Some artists were struggling with their first show in Dublin and Hamburg and Frankfurt and Amsterdam Looks like Brexit was hitting mainland Europe hard as well And Beyonce is only touring Europe & USA, does that make her tours less impressive than Gaga's? Anti Tour grossed $70M in Europe alone, how’s that bad…? She did 4 stadiums in Germany alone (big stadiums too) + 1 arena, which is insane 💀 She probably sold like 150k-200k tickets in Germany alone during that tour even if those 2 dates weren’t completely sold out lmao 1
Finkypop Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 No lol. She’s an awful performer with zero talent as an artist and has never had any demand. Also her last tour’s stadiums were half empty. Maybe a Gaga-esque stadium tour would work with some cute baseball stadiums and arenas 3 1 2
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 Mind you Taylor was 5+ years into her career and she couldn't even sell out 5K capacity dates 1 2 1 2
Cheers Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Maybe. Bey didn't do a stadium tour until after her superbowl so.
WildHeart Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, lonnie said: Again, if you're going to rehash the same drags from seven years ago, don't be surprised when someone does the same thing Good thing is that some artists beat those drags against them with their evergrowing touring power while we are still arguing if some other artists can get their first proper stadium/200M grossing tours 2 1
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Devin said: Exactly. They really got in here when every other fanbase, even the damn liddos, were being civil with their answers (even those that didn't agree that she could pull a full stadium tour, navy members like me included) and they had to be low down for no reason and act surprised (as always) that people would retaliate in the same way. A bunch of annoying grown ass adults with the logic of prepubescents 6 1
FENTY. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 Mind you Taylor was 5+ years into her career and she couldn't even sell out 5K capacity dates Rihanna in 2011 with her record brealing 10 sold out show at the O2 Arena
Feanor Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, FENTY. said: Not a country artist when she released singles like IKYWT and WEANEGBT that same year How does that change the fact that primary music was still country and she herself was mainly regraded as such. Maren Morris had an EDM singly with Zedd and Kelsea Ballerini a pop single with Halsey in recently… are they suddenly pop artists now? 1 minute ago, lonnie said: 2016 is closer to 2013 than it is to 2023 Swifties: Y'all are bringing up old receipts!!!1 Also swifites: Post receipts that are 7 years old Swifties: Post the most recent receipts available. This is why no one here brought up the Truth About Love Tour or the Born This Way Tour. People bring up the Summer Carnival Tour and Chromatica Tour, aka their most recent tours, just how it's done with Rihanna. There's no need to exclude Rihanna from this. 6
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Artistofthedecade said: Good thing is that some artists beat those drags against them with their evergrowing touring power while we are still arguing if some other artists can get their first proper stadium/200M grossing tours Girl, who cares? I doubt Rihanna is losing any sleep over a Wembley date that bombed seven years ago lol. That drag has been used and reused more times than Taylor's corny musical themes give it deelishis. At least we can say Rih never struggled with selling out a mere 5,000 date. Like damn not even 4,000 people in all of Italy wanted to show up for Taylor then? 1
liam13 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 why are yall bringing up old ahh fuq receipts when not even beyonce tour can match taylor current tour. yall should compare rih to gaga or at best, pink, not taylor effing swift or beyoncé 1
Feanor Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Taylor: 3 albums, all country music, and on her 2nd tour: 5 minutes ago, lonnie said: March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 Mind you Taylor was 5+ years into her career and she couldn't even sell out 5K capacity dates Rihanna: 8 albums, with 14 #1s and big European success, and on her 7th tour: 14 minutes ago, Feanor said: And even despite all this, that 2011 Taylor tour still managed to outgross Rihanna's 2016 tour… 6
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Feanor said: How does that change the fact that primary music was still country and she herself was mainly regraded as such. Maren Morris had an EDM singly with Zedd and Kelsea Ballerini a pop single with Halsey in recently… are they suddenly pop artists now? Swifties: Post the most recent receipts available. This is why no one here brought up the Truth About Love Tour or the Born This Way Tour. People bring up the Summer Carnival Tour and Chromatica Tour, aka their most recent tours, just how it's done with Rihanna. There's no need to exclude Rihanna from this. No, what the swifties did is what they always do since they literally ITCH for a fight and clearly have nothing better to do. No one had brought up Taylor negatively before y'all started throwing digs. Again literally no one but y'all care about a stupid Wembley date from seven years ago. The whole point of this thread is to try and assess whether Rih could pull off a full stadium tour post-2023 given how much touring has grown/her anticipated comeback is. It's perfectly okay to disagree, but y'all aren't going to act like some victims when people react in the same vein y'all do. 2 1
Axelios Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, FENTY. said: So it took Taylor 10 albums and like what three re-recordings to catch up with Rihanna’s tour gross in Europe? Good to know Rihanna had more albums than Taylor for most of her career and yet her tour grosses were always pathetic in comparison 1 1
FENTY. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Feanor said: How does that change the fact that primary music was still country and she herself was mainly regraded as such. Maren Morris had an EDM singly with Zedd and Kelsea Ballerini a pop single with Halsey in recently… are they suddenly pop artists now? Swifties: Post the most recent receipts available. This is why no one here brought up the Truth About Love Tour or the Born This Way Tour. People bring up the Summer Carnival Tour and Chromatica Tour, aka their most recent tours, just how it's done with Rihanna. There's no need to exclude Rihanna from this. Girl she was in the UK promoting the hell out of RED album and still failed to outsell Unapologetic there
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Feanor said: Taylor: 3 albums, all country music, and on her 2nd tour: Rihanna: 8 albums, with 14 #1s and big European success, and on her 7th tour: And even despite all this, that 2011 Taylor tour still managed to outgross Rihanna's 2016 tour… I don't know Ms. Feanor, something tells me selling out a 90K capacity stadium is a lot harder than a 5K date. But that's just me
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