celeb news Emily Blunt exposed for fatphobia

[CaptainMusic]

12 hours ago, JaXXXon said:

This is about someone's appearance. If you keep her sentence but switch out with the words "black" or "gay" or anything else it would sound as ugly as it does here.

Umm the vast majority of fat people can stop being fat through exercise and dieting.

 

You can’t change being black or gay, they are incomparable. So damn annoying when people trying to put them on the same level.

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She shouldn’t have apologised at all, it was a decade ago.

 

Some people are so pathetic. 

[Rotunda]

13 hours ago, Trent W said:

Fatphobia is not a real issue

You’ve never seen someone with an eating disorder before? Never seen a middle schooler get bullied for being fat? Never seen a little girl dread going shopping cause all her mom does it make comments about her weight?

[Rotunda]

13 hours ago, Cheers said:

Fatphobia isn’t real

 

but it’s weird how she mentioned how big the woman was when it’s irrelevant to the story. Emily Blunt is a rude ***** for sure.

 

13 hours ago, Dr. Alexander said:

Wtf is fatphobia? I’m so tired of you online hoes that create a new phobia and word every two seconds. Please go outside and go talk to some normal

people 

Y’all sound like the “homophobia isn’t real because I don’t have a fear of gay people” crowd 

[americanlife]

She didn’t need to say that but I was expecting worse

[kataraqueen]

7 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said:

Umm the vast majority of fat people can stop being fat through exercise and dieting.

 

You can’t change being black or gay, they are incomparable. So damn annoying when people trying to put them on the same level.

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She shouldn’t have apologised at all, it was a decade ago.

 

Some people are so pathetic. 

Most people are fat from their childhood or from excessive trauma. It's giving "Just stop being sad!"

[Trent W]

23 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

You’ve never seen someone with an eating disorder before? Never seen a middle schooler get bullied for being fat? Never seen a little girl dread going shopping cause all her mom does it make comments about her weight?

Yes! But that’s straight up bullying and you said it yourself “eating disorder”

 

Fatphobia is not a real social issue like “racism”, “homophobia” or “transphobia”

 

It’s a made up term made by the internet to promote unhealthy lifestyles 

 

Obviously people who bully overweight people are disgusting but this is not a real social cause.

[Material Girl]

so all she said was "the girl who served me was enormous" and that needed a paragraph long apology?

[brazil]

1 hour ago, Hitchhiker said:

I’m not even mad about it more just confused bc what did that have to do with the story 

The guy mentioned people in the US being enormous before sh tarted speaking. It was cut out. The gull video was posted here

[Rotunda]

15 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Yes! But that’s straight up bullying and you said it yourself “eating disorder”

 

Fatphobia is not a real social issue like “racism”, “homophobia” or “transphobia”

 

It’s a made up term made by the internet to promote unhealthy lifestyles 

 

Obviously people who bully overweight people are disgusting but this is not a real social cause.

…All terms are “made up,” that’s how language works. No phenomenon has an innate name attached to it. We observe the world and then attach terms to it that describe the circumstances we have noticed. You wouldn’t call misogynoir a fake term just because your understanding of it doesn’t move past internet discourse (or maybe you would, we all remember how you were in your old days). 
 

Bullying, societal pressure, and mental illnesses can be motivated by a variety of factors including hatred, contempt, or dislike towards those who are fat. Bullying and fatphobia aren’t mutually exclusive. A form of bullying can be bullying on the basis of someone being fat. An eating disorder can be driven by societal pressure to not be fat.

You may not like the broader conversation surrounding fatphobia, or believe the term is being too broadly applied in situations where it  may be harmful, but that doesn’t make fatphobia itself not real or make it an indefensible concept.

[kataraqueen]

1 hour ago, Trent W said:

Yes! But that’s straight up bullying and you said it yourself “eating disorder”

 

Fatphobia is not a real social issue like “racism”, “homophobia” or “transphobia”

 

It’s a made up term made by the internet to promote unhealthy lifestyles 

 

Obviously people who bully overweight people are disgusting but this is not a real social cause.

Having 1/3rd of your population be morbidly overweight is most certainly a social cause lol

 

The facts are that America capitalized off of making people live unhealthy lifrstyles while simultaneously promoting a hyper specific version of what is healthy. This has lead to generational trauma of fat families that can't seem to find a real middle ground. Everyone has access to information now, but it must suck to be treated differently from the get go. You can't choose what you eat as a child, be fr. And people that become fat usually suffer from some trauma, something the American healthcare system should be held accountable for.

 

I just don't think this is even a real topic outside of America. I'm Dutch so yeah lol I'm not writing this from an American pov.

 

edit:

oops point being if you're fatphobic you shove them further down that hole. Just accept them and let them learn. We're all human and it's usually not their fault.

Edited October 21, 2023 by kataraqueen

[Trent W]

33 minutes ago, kataraqueen said:

Having 1/3rd of your population be morbidly overweight is most certainly a social cause lol

 

The facts are that America capitalized off of making people live unhealthy lifrstyles while simultaneously promoting a hyper specific version of what is healthy. This has lead to generational trauma of fat families that can't seem to find a real middle ground. Everyone has access to information now, but it must suck to be treated differently from the get go. You can't choose what you eat as a child, be fr. And people that become fat usually suffer from some trauma, something the American healthcare system should be held accountable for.

 

I just don't think this is even a real topic outside of America. I'm Dutch so yeah lol I'm not writing this from an American pov.

 

edit:

oops point being if you're fatphobic you shove them further down that hole. Just accept them and let them learn. We're all human and it's usually not their fault.

I understand your point, and obviously no one should be bullied for their physical appearance 

 

My main problem with terms like “fatphobia” and “body positivity” is that they promote that the idea that being obese or morbidly obese is okay when it’s really not

 

Those generations that you mentioned will keep going for longer if we promote these ideals

 

On the other side we have few exceptions that are obese because of a medical condition so it’s a complex topic.

 

But trying to place obese people as a minority or vulnerable group is wrong imo. To most of them it is a choice of habit.

Edited October 21, 2023 by Trent W

[Rotunda]

2 hours ago, CaptainMusic said:

Umm the vast majority of fat people can stop being fat through exercise and dieting.

 

You can’t change being black or gay, they are incomparable. So damn annoying when people trying to put them on the same level.

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She shouldn’t have apologised at all, it was a decade ago.

 

Some people are so pathetic. 

So, speaking generally, is it okay to mock someone for something as long as it’s not an ascriptive characteristic? 
 

Just curious where exactly you’re landing on this, since you seem to have downvoted any explanation on how fatphobia is a valid concept. 

[Rotunda]

28 minutes ago, Trent W said:

I understand your point, and obviously no one should be bullied for their physical appearance 

 

My main problem with terms like “fatphobia” and “body positivity” is that they promote that the idea that being obese or morbidly obese is okay when it’s really not

 

Those generations that you mentioned will keep going for longer if we promote these ideals

 

On the other side we have few exceptions that are obese because of a medical condition so it’s a complex topic.

 

But trying to place obese people as a minority or vulnerable group is wrong imo. To most of them it is a choice of habit.

You realize that you can both recognize that fatphobia accurately describes situations in which people are bullied, mocked, or made to feel less than as a result of their weight, while also understanding there is a scientific imperative for promoting healthy bodies? 
 

Your argument wasn’t just that fatphobia/body positivity are terms that are employed to negative ends, you argued that the issue of fatphobia doesn’t represent a real social issue altogether. 
 

To some extent, a lot of things are choices (or at least involve varying levels of agency). That doesn’t immediately make stigmatizing those things inherently okay. There are many people who are homeless or addicts due to reasons in their control, but we don’t argue those issues aren’t legitimate social issues. 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Rotunda

[kataraqueen]

30 minutes ago, Trent W said:

I understand your point, and obviously no one should be bullied for their physical appearance 

 

My main problem with terms like “fatphobia” and “body positivity” is that they promote that the idea that being obese or morbidly obese is okay when it’s really not

 

Those generations that you mentioned will keep going for longer if we promote these ideals

 

On the other side we have few exceptions that are obese because of a medical condition so it’s a complex topic.

 

But trying to place obese people as a minority or vulnerable group is wrong imo. To most of them it is a choice of habit.

Yes I have a slight issue with that too, and I see it as a result rather than a causation... Unfortunately, as with any counter movement, people miss the social implications and genuinely believe the exaggerated ideals. I have seen stories of obese people getting more obese because they're genuinely living in a bubble where they think it's perfectly healthy to do so... But at that point, I'm not sure if the discussion should be about fat positivity or echo chambers as a whole.

 

Personally, I see the benefits of it as a psychological thing. If your decision to lose weight is fueled by negative emotions, the chances of bouncing back are much higher, because food is usually the way obese people deal with their negative emotions. This is why I'd rather see them counter-act the negativity they've felt (even if delusional), to hopefully come to an objective and healthy conclusion through a new found neutrality towards themselves.

Edited October 21, 2023 by kataraqueen

[kataraqueen]

Not this turning into a fatphobia debate. My biggest gripe with the whole situation is the american health care system not giving the traumatized individuals the help that they need (think of sa victims, abuse victims, depressed people, etc), and instead letting them eat intentionally overproduced garbage full of addictive chemicals to let them feel better about themselves. 

 

From what I can tell, American guidelines are seriously lacking, and it's ridiculous to even allow someone to order a bucket of coca cola with a happy meal  That deserves a whole lot more attention than people refusing to be bullied

[Rotunda]

In fact, @Trent W @CaptainMusic if your concern is making sure people are making healthy choices and aren’t being emboldened to continue to live unhealthy lifestyles, fatphobia should be a major concern for you. Individuals who are morbidly obese often experience learned helplessness and a feeling of resignation that encourages them to continue to overeat.

 

When these individuals are constantly shamed, mocked, or bullied for their appearance, eating often becomes a coping strategy or a way of punishing themselves because they don’t feel they are “worth” making a healthy lifestyle change.

 

We can have a discussion about how the body positivity movement may encourage people to accept unhealthy living/lifestyles as okay (and I’d argue there’s a lot of clear truth to this), but a fatphobic society does not necessarily encourage fat people to get healthy.

 

A fat person is going to be intimated going into the gym if they’re fearful of being mocked or gawked at. When people complain about fitness brands using larger models, they’re ignoring that it’s important for fat/obese individuals to see others who look like them engaging in active lifestyles.   
 

A rejection of fatphobia, is actually somewhat necessary if our end goes is to stop people from being unhealthy.

Edited October 21, 2023 by Rotunda

[Digitalism]

I hope this kills the undeserved oscar nomination this year

[Starchild]

Another entitled plain looking boring white woman insulting someone that isn't rich? Shocking, I'm sure her British sense of humor thought it was hilarious to throw that in there randomly 

[Starchild]

5 hours ago, Rotunda said:

 

Y’all sound like the “homophobia isn’t real because I don’t have a fear of gay people” crowd 

Most users on here are vapid yt gays that think they're hot or sumn so they think making fun of people's weight and appearance is ok, you aren't going to get through to them lbr

[Into The Void]

2012....

[barbiegrande]

 

Struggled with weight my whole life and come from a family prone to being fat. People can come up with all sorts of excuses, but 99% of the time morbidly obese people stay that way because of their diet. I have family members who wanna lose weight and pay for every program, but then you look at their bills and it’s all chicken wings and burgers. 
 

No, people shouldn’t bully fat people, but we also shouldn’t ignore the reality that being overweight and obese will only worsen your quality of life. We can admit that about people who smoke but not people who over eat?

 

2 hours ago, Rotunda said:

In fact, @Trent W @CaptainMusic if your concern is making sure people are making healthy choices and aren’t being emboldened to continue to live unhealthy lifestyles, fatphobia should be a major concern for you. Individuals who are morbidly obese often experience learned helplessness and a feeling of resignation that encourages them to continue to overeat.

 

When these individuals are constantly shamed, mocked, or bullied for their appearance, eating often becomes a coping strategy or a way of punishing themselves because they don’t feel they are “worth” making a healthy lifestyle change.

 

We can have a discussion about how the body positivity movement may encourage people to accept unhealthy living/lifestyles as okay (and I’d argue there’s a lot of clear truth to this), but a fatphobic society does not necessarily encourage fat people to get healthy.

 

A fat person is going to be intimated going into the gym if they’re fearful of being mocked or gawked at. When people complain about fitness brands using larger models, they’re ignoring that it’s important for fat/obese individuals to see others who look like them engaging in active lifestyles.   
 

A rejection of fatphobia, is actually somewhat necessary if our end goes is to stop people from being unhealth

[JoeAg]

I'm glad she apologized cause that's so f*ckin lame dude... like how would SHE feel if someone just told her that she looks like a less cute Katy Perry or Zooey Deschanel? not great I'm sure! I'd feel humiliated if I were that lady. how did her weight have ANYTHING to do with that story, yknow?

 

Spoiler

I gotta give her props though, that first accent and the way she switched it up was extremely impressive. I'd love to hear her with a southern accent in some role someday...

 

[AaronBryceSufjan]

well she deserved all those Oscar nomination snubs atp

[Ron Ng]

I forgive her