Floraholique Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Nnn... these Kats and Monsters need to take it to SYG or something. Like, it's obvious Katheryn and Stefani have accepted they are no longer on top of the world and that they are just passing the time with upcoming tours and projects on the side. Be blessed these women bear no animosities towards one another, and that they bother to create content for fans who are pitting themselves against one another Most importantly, Kats need to be humbled by this era, and Monsters need to stay humble after the mess surrounding ARTPOP
RudeBoyy Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Only 11k more than Dangerous Woman WITH a tour bundle? Looks like a wake up call for ATRLers and their precious "main pop girls". I feel bad for Katy, she's not the type of artist to stream well and it feels like the industry has changed so much on her since her last release. Edited June 16, 2017 by RudeBoyy
Cryptique Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 33 minutes ago, NEZ said: Basically arguing over who flopped less. because debuting 201k is flopping..?? when it basically outperformed 90plus percent of pop girls' albums?? you can shade PI but not Joanne sis.. and I am pretty sure you're going to drag JOANNE if WITNESS pulls a 200k plus.. the transperency of the Navies
Cryptique Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, SilencePlease said: $3.99 upon release. Q4. With country, a kind of sound that actually sells albums in 2017. let's deduct the 1-day exclusive for registered amazon discount and the tour bundle and let's see who will debut below 50k SPS..
Ratviolo Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Only 187k SPS with the tour bundle? Well.. Congrats, I guess.
Elusive Chanteuse Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, hardbrit said: This is an incredible solid number Ya'll are a mess She did AMAZINGLY given her current situation about people HATING ON HER BECAUSE OF HER DAM HAIR !!!
Yassin512 Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Sales are the pits and not Katy nor Gaga will be able to pull more than 200k in the near future. It is what it is. Any drag or clock from either base is unnecessary. Also, mess at me getting a WP for a neutral non-biased post that had no flamebait whatsoever. This forum is filled with so many kids lately
Thor Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Do we know how much are the pure sales? And how much came from the bundle? OT: The numbers are underwhelming, imo. Edited June 16, 2017 by Thor
Befour Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 53 minutes ago, NEZ said: Basically arguing over who flopped less. Gold albums ain't no flop these days And neither are sold out tours, a term you might not be familiar with
ToMmY Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Next week will be the real kii! Y'all are invited to the slumber party.
Ratviolo Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Thor said: Do we know how much are the pure sales? And how much came from the bundle? OT: The numbers are underwhelming, imo. Considering Lady Antebellum did 60k SPS and was ahead of Katy with both pure sales and SPS before the bundle sales were accounted, I think it's safe to assume that something like 120k came from the bundle.
Bicassie Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 wtf that is GREAT in 2017....Gags and katy are still huge and sorta on the same level and stage in their career bye
simmnfierzig Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Yassin512 said: Sales are the pits and not Katy nor Gaga will be able to pull more than 200k in the near future. It is what it is. Any drag or clock from either base is unnecessary. Also, mess at me getting a WP for a neutral non-biased post that had no flamebait whatsoever. This forum is filled with so many kids lately Why are sales in the pits? Because of the rise of streaming How did Witness do on streaming? Oh terribly.... That's part of the bigger problem of streaming and femals sure, but if people neither buy nor stream your album... That can't be good.
anklebiterrs Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said: Why are sales in the pits? Because of the rise of streaming How did Witness do on streaming? Oh terribly.... That's part of the bigger problem of streaming and femals sure, but if people neither buy nor stream your album... That can't be good. Basically this. I mean, y'all Katy fans are defending the overall number saying sales are dead, but her streaming is the pits too. Denying that she isn't doing well is counterproductive.
SebaMonster Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Not bad. 17K from streaming is horrible though.
Yassin512 Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Why are sales in the pits? Because of the rise of streaming How did Witness do on streaming? Oh terribly.... That's part of the bigger problem of streaming and femals sure, but if people neither buy nor stream your album... That can't be good. I don't think there has ever been a female artist that has had constant success after 5 or 6 eras tbh. It's always been the same with pop girls no matter how big they get. They peak once or twice then it's sort of downhill from there (sales wise). They'll always have their core fanbase that supports them and buys/streams their music and will always have a legacy. But there is no way that they'll have the same level of success or even half of what hey once had, nor should anyone keep expecting that from them. That's why these stan wars are childish and pointless. If people are expecting Katy (or Gaga) to have 3 #1s and 1M+ album sales today they're delusional.
Mohzy Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, LadyLana said: Katy was coming off of PRISM, Gaga was coming off of ARTPOP... if it's a flop for Gaga, then this is tragic for Katy Utilise the brain please 1 hour ago, Instant said: The only other female who debuted with more than Gaga and crossed 200k was Beyonce so how is it bad for Gaga? Standards for her are much lower than they were back in 2011. She debuted with 258k back in 2013 and did 201k in 2016 You guy's standards are trash af. GAGA at one point was the biggest star in the world... now she's just apart of the bunch barely beating someone like Katy Perry. You're defending GAGA against Katy perry. Yikes what went wrong?
Ash12345 Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, GoneHome said: 17K SPS that has to be underestimated Nah, her only hit CTTR peaked 4 months ago. There's not much SPS left.
simmnfierzig Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Full final numbers are up 1989 re-entering at #33. Mainly from just Spotify
fossora Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) wait Joanne had more streams than Witness too........I'm shooketh Congrats to Katheryn for scoring 3rd #1 album tho Edited June 16, 2017 by artangel
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