Mons†erMuscle™ Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Yes because there is a huge difference between $0.99 and free Exactly my point.
B-Rabbit Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mons†erMuscle™ said: Exactly my point. Putting an album for $.99 is an even worse gimmick than tour bundles though. Hell, you could argue it is worse than being free
istan4badgalriri Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SUNSET BLVD said: i mean, i think 400k people bought BTW for a dollar. So interscope made a quick lil' half million of the 99 cent tactic whereas Rih's label made zilch. But, that's not even taking into consideration the fact that amazon had to buy those btw copies at full price and took a loss by selling it for $1. Rihanna/her label had to get paid a certain minimum amount for each of those 1M copies bought by Samsung in order to get recognized by the RIAA (RIAA exec said it himself). The minimum album price to be eligible for a RIAA certification is $3. I'll let you do the math (1,470,000 x $3). Way more than a lil half million. Edited June 14, 2017 by istan4badgalriri
Mons†erMuscle™ Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, B-Rabbit said: Putting an album for $.99 is an even worse gimmick than tour bundles though. Hell, you could argue it is worse than being free And yet BTW still sold 600k+ without it.
B-Rabbit Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mons†erMuscle™ said: And yet BTW still sold 600k+ without it. Doesn't make it any less of a gimmick
dussymob Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 20 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said: Streams 3.(-1) SZA 14.(+4) Taylor's 1989 20.(-1) Katy Perry 34.(+10) Taylor's Red Mess
Aden Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said: Putting an album for $.99 is an even worse gimmick than tour bundles though. Hell, you could argue it is worse than being free That deal lasted for one day and every copy sold for that price was paid in full by Amazon. The sales from that deal don't even account for 5% of Born This Way's overall sales. Katy is having a tour bundle for the entire week and is doing so bad, the tour bundle is continuing afterward.
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Aden said: That deal lasted for one day and every copy sold for that price was paid in full by Amazon. The sales from that deal don't even account for 5% of Born This Way's overall sales. Katy is having a tour bundle for the entire week and is doing so bad, the tour bundle is continuing afterward. Do you have receipts to prove this?
Monster Megamind Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, One Nation said: Do you have receipts to prove this? As and when customers redeem their album. That's why Metallica had consistent sales over the weeks
Mons†erMuscle™ Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said: Doesn't make it any less of a gimmick Oh well, a gimmick is a gimmick. *
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Monster Megamind said: As and when customers redeem their album. That's why Metallica had consistent sales over the weeks So then why do people keep bringing up next week's sales? I need RECEIPTS that show that the ticket counting toward sales will indeed continue after the debut week.
TattooedDreams Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Aden said: That deal lasted for one day and every copy sold for that price was paid in full by Amazon. The sales from that deal don't even account for 5% of Born This Way's overall sales. Katy is having a tour bundle for the entire week and is doing so bad, the tour bundle is continuing afterward.
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Mons†erMuscle™ said: Oh well, a gimmick is a gimmick. * So then why are you trying to drag Katy since you just admitted both situations in the end are pretty much the same? (gimmicks)
TattooedDreams Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Ethereaaal said: You're completely missing the point. The thing is, my precious hunty, BTW would still be a huge success even without the * you speak of. They're not in comparable situations; they're not even on the same league. So if i were you, I'd take BTW out of the discussion. Also, Amazon buying the album and selling it for .99 for publicity is not even similar to Katy's team bundling Witness with tour tickets. Essentially, Amazon saw BTW's high demand and took advantage of it. Witness, on the other hand, was bundled to increase its sales; they knew it didnt have much demand. Now, where are you trying to go with the BTW argument? 4 hours ago, Ruben said: But in the long run, didn't Teenage Dream still outsell Born This Way in the US when the dust was settled? No one should minimize Gaga's achievement as not many artists have 1MM debuts, but she literally got 50% of her total sales on her first week. Gaga might have bigger numbers but Katy has more consistency. LOL Gaga's debuts have been fairly consistent outside BTW meanwhile this would've been a HUGE drop from PRISM and TD had she not used this bundle. Hush.
alfonso12 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 The non-stop Katy dragging in this thread is too much
Mariano Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 45 minutes ago, Aden said: That deal lasted for one day and every copy sold for that price was paid in full by Amazon. The sales from that deal don't even account for 5% of Born This Way's overall sales. Katy is having a tour bundle for the entire week and is doing so bad, the tour bundle is continuing afterward. tour bundle isn't just for this week. It will matter for 2nd,3rd etc. as long as somebody bought a ticket and got a copy of the album.
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mariano said: tour bundle isn't just for this week. It will matter for 2nd,3rd etc. as long as somebody bought a ticket and got a copy of the album. Receipts?
pabloanxiety Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, alfonso12 said: The non-stop Katy dragging in this thread is too much more like failed attempts to drag a legit sales tactic by the same 4 or 5 obssesed members.
alfonso12 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, pabloanxiety said: more like failed attempts to drag a legit sales tactic by the same 4 or 5 obssesed members. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Mariano Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Rabbit said: Putting an album for $.99 is an even worse gimmick than tour bundles though. Hell, you could argue it is worse than being free Yes. Good to know that Gaga and her team never did that. The only thing they did is say YES when Amazon offered to sell BTW at 1 dolar for a day and PAY FULL PRICE to Gaga and Interscope. Why would they say no ? You are acting like BTWs deal was used to inflate sales of BTW when in reality Amazon used BTW to promote their OWN service Yall do not look smart, mentioning BTW's ground breaking - never done before (or after) deal. OT: i am glad the bundle exist, the album deserves to be heard. Edited June 14, 2017 by Mariano
Mariano Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, One Nation said: Receipts? You do know that Katy's tour dates are not sold out right ? Every time someone buys a ticket and gets a copy - it counts. Somebody posted receipts of U2 album jumping from 70 to top 10 cuz of ticket bundle that was done a few weeks after the album was released.
alfonso12 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mariano said: Yes. Good to know that Gaga and her team never did that. The only thing they did is say YES when Amazon offered to sell BTW at 1 dolar for a day and PAY FULL PRICE to Gaga and Interscope. Why would they say no ? You are acting like BTWs deal was used to inflate sales of BTW when in reality Amazon used BTW to promote their OWN service Yall do not look smart, mentioning BTW's ground breaking - never done before (or after) deal. OT: i am glad the bundle exist, the album deserves to be heard. This is fundamental. I can't believe people still use this excuse against BTW when it wasn't even Gaga's idea.
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mariano said: You do know that Katy's tour dates are not sold out right ? Every time someone buys a ticket and gets a copy - it counts. Somebody posted receipts of U2 album jumping from 70 to top 10 cuz of ticket bundle that was done a few weeks after the album was released. Sorry, I don't believe hearsay. I need actual receipts from a CREDIBLE source to back ya'll claim. Edited June 14, 2017 by One Nation
PieceOfPedro Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 She's #5 on iTunes, don't #5 sell less then 20k
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, alfonso12 said: This is fundamental. I can't believe people still use this excuse against BTW when it wasn't even Gaga's idea. And you're assuming the ticket bundle was Katy's?
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