Ratviolo Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 12:55 AM, Aurora said: It's been 8 months since Joanne and that was released in a better time of year for album sales. What aren't y'all getting about the "album sales dwindle over time" thing? It's not comparable. Regardless, this is really bad for Katy. 200k should have been a minimum with the tour bundle and she's not even doing that. I'm embarrassed and sad for her but it just means she needs to ****ing step it up, yes I know she's struggling with identity issues and image and not wanting to be Katy Perry anymore but if she wants to still have a career after this tragedy she needs to woman up, grow a vagina, grow her hair back and give the people what they want again. The fact she supposedly had a major partnership with Spotify this era and is still only pulling 20k from there is laughable, with THREE singles. Expand I love an unbiased post. You have my respect sis. And the bolded part
slw84 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 1:43 AM, NickARTPOP said: Lorde will pull through, Green Light debuted with 65k sales even though it was missing the first day of sales, and she is an album artist. I just hope she is able to reach 100k units first week Expand Ok I could see that tbh.
DonnieDarko Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 9:47 AM, J-boy said: Im not since I expected 145k-175k SPS with tour bundles. Expand Why dod you expect such low numbers though? Because of the singles underperforming or bc of something else? I mean I'm not sure anyone should expect such numbers from one of the bigggest pop stars. I really am confused as to what has happened.
Gourgeist Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 8:37 AM, Pop said: lol yes they are and you know it. like you can dig your head in the sand and pretend like she wouldn't sell less than 80k without the bundle but the tea is out there. the album bombed as hard as her singles and her tour is struggling aswell. her public image has never been worse. she's universally panned. wake up. Expand Tell them
Ethereaaal Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 8:33 AM, thirdward said: monsters should chill with that tour bundle mess we'll always remember * Expand but hunty, even without the *, some of your faves will kill for those debut numbers. idk what you are tryin to imply with that.
slw84 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 7:47 AM, yamiyuuuu said: I get it, Katy's numbers are bad, but why is no one talking about Halsey selling 10k in it's second week? Expand Because no1curr about your attempt to deflect when halsey isn't a main pop girl pulling surprisingly sub par numbers. On 6/14/2017 at 1:06 AM, Phil said: Drake (YMCMB/Republic) 39-43k, 1-2k Post Malone (Republic) 28-31k, 1-2k Migos (Quality Control) 22-25k, 1-2k Bryson Tiller (Trapsoul/RCA) 21-24k, 1-2k Khalid (Right Hand Music/RCA) 21-24k, 1-2k Future (FREEBANDZ/Epic) 20-23k, 1-2k Chainsmokers (Disruptor/Columbia) 19-22k, 3-4 What is this mess? Expand I was told urban was coming to slay yet this information betrays my trust.
thirdward Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 10:06 AM, Ethereaaal said: but hunty, even without the *, some of your faves will kill for those debut numbers. idk what you are tryin to imply with that. Expand that even your fave tried to boost her sales pretty simple
itsnickcray Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 U guys are embarrassing. You want ''the pop girl'' to make a comeback but are shading and laughing at all the others ''flopping''. Literally NO pop girl will have the success they once had in 2011. Especially without support from the other fan bases. Stan gays are really ruining pop music ugh...
Ethereaaal Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 10:20 AM, thirdward said: that even your fave tried to boost her sales pretty simple Expand You're completely missing the point. The thing is, my precious hunty, BTW would still be a huge success even without the * you speak of. They're not in comparable situations; they're not even on the same league. So if i were you, I'd take BTW out of the discussion. Also, Amazon buying the album and selling it for .99 for publicity is not even similar to Katy's team bundling Witness with tour tickets. Essentially, Amazon saw BTW's high demand and took advantage of it. Witness, on the other hand, was bundled to increase its sales; they knew it didnt have much demand. Now, where are you trying to go with the BTW argument?
Thor Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 8:33 AM, thirdward said: monsters should chill with that tour bundle mess we'll always remember * Expand But what you need to remember is that she was selling 660K either way, so what's the issue? Huh? OT: Katy's numbers might go up, since there are 2 days left.
Sombre Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 11:01 PM, BajanBeauty said: Didn't Gaga do 170k pure? She's projected to do the same ballpark & before you mention the ticket bundle Gaga/ her team also had her album selling for like 4.99 release week. Both ladies had tactics in place to boost their sales. So really what's there to drag. Now her streams are a different story... Expand Nah it was for the standard MP3 version exclusively for Amazon Prime Music for the first 24h, not a whole week! Anyway, not the prediction going down after the 4 day long promo on YT. How can her streaming be so bad when she has 3 singles out and a Spotify promo deal?
Ruben Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 11:05 AM, Thor said: But what you need to remember is that she was selling 660K either way, so what's the issue? Huh? OT: Katy's numbers might go up, since there are 2 days left. Expand But in the long run, didn't Teenage Dream still outsell Born This Way in the US when the dust was settled? No one should minimize Gaga's achievement as not many artists have 1MM debuts, but she literally got 50% of her total sales on her first week. Gaga might have bigger numbers but Katy has more consistency.
CovalentBondage Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 5:53 AM, Lvl8Treeko said: Not really tbh. unfortunately atrl is filled with trolls that stan only for music that is commercially successful when the majority of music on the charts is in my opinion, trash. Thankfully I can enjoy and appreciate the music and not get caught up in numbers like the rest of you perched OKH's. Her tour will still do amazing, and that's where the $$$ at. Expand I don't even care about success. KP makes trash music and is just a tool for making men money. The whole TD era was so unauthentic, all she did was sell sex. Her music is mediocre at best. She is a person who is quick to judge mental illness, appropriate cultures and write a song called ur so gay.
One Nation Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 7:48 AM, istan4badgalriri said: all the pressed people saying "without the tour bundle she'd do ____ " billboard will count the tour bundle sales, get over it. Expand Exactly.
abrahamjmr Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/12/2017 at 7:34 PM, Haris_Russia said: Katy is a global singer. It is much more important how much it will sell in the world I think that an unknown Lady Antebellum sell 1,5K-2K outside the USA lol Expand This is such a weak try-hard drag, considering they're country, why would they sell a ton of copies outside of the US?
tiagol88 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 10:33 AM, itsnickcray said: U guys are embarrassing. You want ''the pop girl'' to make a comeback but are shading and laughing at all the others ''flopping''. Literally NO pop girl will have the success they once had in 2011. Especially without support from the other fan bases. Stan gays are really ruining pop music ugh... Expand All this.
abrahamjmr Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 10:33 AM, itsnickcray said: U guys are embarrassing. You want ''the pop girl'' to make a comeback but are shading and laughing at all the others ''flopping''. Literally NO pop girl will have the success they once had in 2011. Especially without support from the other fan bases. Stan gays are really ruining pop music ugh... Expand I don't want pop girls to comeback.
Green Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 7:48 AM, istan4badgalriri said: all the pressed people saying "without the tour bundle she'd do ____ " billboard will count the tour bundle sales, get over it. Expand !!! I already imagine all the angry fomos letters to Billboard demanding to know the breakdown of Katy's sales and Billboard paying them dust There's a reason why they count tour bundles sales. It's legal and many artists are doing it (however they don't count 99 cents albums sales for the first 4 weeks anymore since 2011 * ) Quote For ticket/album bundle offers where the purchase price of a ticket includes an album, only those albums that are actively redeemed by a customer count towards the charts. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7495997/barbra-streisand-earns-11th-no-1-album-on-billboard-200-album-chart Expand Quote Unit sales for Albums priced below $3.49 during their first four weeks of release will not be eligible for inclusion on the Billboard album charts and will not count towards sales data presented by Nielsen SoundScan. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1160372/billboard-pricing-policy-effective-november-21-2011 Expand
Ethereaaal Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 11:57 AM, Green said: !!! I already imagine all the angry fomos letters to Billboard demanding to know the breakdown of Katy's sales and Billboard payingthem dust There's a reason why they count tour bundles sales. It's legal and many artists are doing it (however they don't count 99 cents albums sales for the first 4 weeks anymore since 2011 * ) Expand Literally, no one was talking about BTW until OGHs somehow brought it up on this thread thinking they can spite Monsters with Katy's underperformance. Keep mentioning BTW though, it does not make Witness cuter just so you know.
Ethereaaal Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 11:32 AM, Ruben said: But in the long run, didn't Teenage Dream still outsell Born This Way in the US when the dust was settled? No one should minimize Gaga's achievement as not many artists have 1MM debuts, but she literally got 50% of her total sales on her first week. Gaga might have bigger numbers butKaty has more consistency. Expand 1. Kats really have the affinity to go off-topic to make an 'argument'. 2. Yeah, she's been consistent this era.
Ruben Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 12:30 PM, Ethereaaal said: 1. Kats really have the affinity to go off-topic to make an 'argument'. 2. Yeah, she's been consistent this era. Expand How did I go off-topic? Born This Way sales were brought up into the conversation. My point was that though it was a big achievement, she was front-loaded and in the end she ended up selling 50% of her total sales during the first week. I compared it to Teenage Dream because those albums came out around the same time and Katy debuted with MUCH LESS units sold yet it outsold it in the long run. I mentioned Katy's consistency because her first week sales have never been huge, even with TD having two hits at the time, it didn't even move 200K; she's doing similar numbers in a MUCH WORSE sales climate and with no hits under her belt. For me, that's consistency.
Ethereaaal Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 12:52 PM, Ruben said: How did I go off-topic? Born This Way sales were brought up into the conversation. My point was that though it was a big achievement, she was front-loaded and in the end she ended up selling 50% of her total sales during the first week. I compared it to Teenage Dream because those albums came out around the same time and Katy debuted with MUCH LESS units sold yet it outsold it in the long run. I mentioned Katy's consistency because her first week sales have never been huge, even with TD having two hits at the time, it didn't even move 200K; she's doing similar numbers in a MUCH WORSE sales climate and with no hits under her belt. For me, that's consistency. Expand You answered your own question. Your sistren mentioned BTW's opening sales + Amazon deal. What does TD have to do with anything Like do we talk about Red or Loud as well? Go make your own thread for this, and then do your talk. Embarrassing.
sadnews Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 June 9~12 Album Sales 1. Katy Perry 2. Lady antebellum 4. SZA SPS 1. Katy Perry 2. Kendrick Lamar 3.(-1) SZA 4.(-1) Lady Antebellum Streams 3.(-1) SZA 14.(+4) Taylor's 1989 20.(-1) Katy Perry 34.(+10) Taylor's Red Song Sales 10. Katy Perry 11.(+1) Lady Antebellum 27.(-1) SZA Physical 1. Lady Antebellum 2. Katy Perry 32.(-1) SZA Digital 1. Katy Perry 2. SZA 3. Lady Antebellum
Ruben Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 12:55 PM, Ethereaaal said: You answered your own question. Your sistren mentioned BTW's opening sales + Amazon deal. What does TD have to do with anything Like do we talk about Red or Loud as well? Go make your own thread for this, and then do your talk. Embarrassing. Expand Only in a music board people actually think one would feel embarrassed about something. I was just stating my opinion. Good day.
ronelmaano13 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 1:42 PM, sadnews said: June 9~12 Album Sales 1. Katy Perry 2. Lady antebellum 4. SZA SPS 1. Katy Perry 2. Kendrick Lamar 3.(-1) SZA 4.(-1) Lady Antebellum Streams 3.(-1) SZA 14.(+4) Taylor's 1989 20.(-1) Katy Perry 34.(+10) Taylor's Red Song Sales 10. Katy Perry 11.(+1) Lady Antebellum 27.(-1) SZA Physical 1. Lady Antebellum 2. Katy Perry 32.(-1) SZA Digital 1. Katy Perry 2. SZA 3. Lady Antebellum Expand Not 1989 outstreaming Witness. Congratulations, Katy! The important is album sales and SPS. A number 1 is a number 1.
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