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dumbsparce Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Horrible people existed since the dawn of time. I don't think capitalism is to be blamed for this one. Perhaps greediness?
Happylittlepunk Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Capitalism is just a tool imo it completely depends on the individual how they use it. Money all it does is exposed how people truly are behind the scenes. I have a lot of family members with money who truly showed their true colors once they had it and spend it all n gamboling and addictions and I also have a lot family members with money who used it for good. Like paying college or hospital bills or funeral bills within the family. I know it’s easy to say capitalism is the root of all evil. But I blaim individuals with their actions more than I do specifically a tool that can be used for good things also. 2 1
SmittenCake Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 6:42 PM, Happylittlepunk said: Capitalism is just a tool imo it completely depends on the individual how they use it. Money all it does is exposed how people truly are behind the scenes. I have a lot of family members with money who truly showed their true colors once they had it and spend it all n gamboling and addictions and I also have a lot family members with money who used it for good. Like paying college or hospital bills or funeral bills within the family. I know it’s easy to say capitalism is the root of all evil. But I blaim individuals with their actions more than I do specifically a tool that can be used for good things also. hmm this is tea
Before Today Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 5:42 AM, Happylittlepunk said: Capitalism is just a tool imo it completely depends on the individual how they use it. Money all it does is exposed how people truly are behind the scenes. I have a lot of family members with money who truly showed their true colors once they had it and spend it all n gamboling and addictions and I also have a lot family members with money who used it for good. Like paying college or hospital bills or funeral bills within the family. I know it’s easy to say capitalism is the root of all evil. But I blaim individuals with their actions more than I do specifically a tool that can be used for good things also. This
AMIT Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 7:42 PM, Happylittlepunk said: Capitalism is just a tool imo it completely depends on the individual how they use it. Money all it does is exposed how people truly are behind the scenes. I have a lot of family members with money who truly showed their true colors once they had it and spend it all n gamboling and addictions and I also have a lot family members with money who used it for good. Like paying college or hospital bills or funeral bills within the family. I know it’s easy to say capitalism is the root of all evil. But I blaim individuals with their actions more than I do specifically a tool that can be used for good things also. You don't know anything about the capitalist ideology and this post shows. Blaming individual people for a systemic issue is a textbook neoliberalist talking point. The system forces people to act a certain way, individuals play a part in it by reinforcing it, but they are not the root cause of the issue. Such rhetoric is dangerous because next thing you know you're gonna be blaming poor people for being poor and homeless people for being homeless, which is what neoliberalism wants you to do. Please educate yourself and don't just repeat innacurate and debunked arguments like these that only serves to reinforce the violent status quo that harms 99% of people. Capitalism is not a ''tool'', it's an inhumane socioeconomic system that preys on the most vulnerable and is responsible for a lot of misery and deaths that could be prevented had we moved past it like we should have decades ago. 1
Happylittlepunk Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, AMIT said: You don't know anything about the capitalist ideology and this post shows. Blaming individual people for a systemic issue is a textbook neoliberalist talking point. The system forces people to act a certain way, individuals play a part in it by reinforcing it, but they are not the root cause of the issue. Such rhetoric is dangerous because next thing you know you're gonna be blaming poor people for being poor and homeless people for being homeless, which is what neoliberalism wants you to do. Please educate yourself and don't just repeat innacurate and debunked arguments like these that only serves to reinforce the violent status quo that harms 99% of people. Capitalism is not a ''tool'', it's an inhumane socioeconomic system that preys on the most vulnerable and is responsible for a lot of misery and deaths that could be prevented had we moved past it like we should have decades ago. How is it inhuman when it helped a lot people out of poverty for hundreds of years. Capitalism is a tool. If some guy with $100 million wants to use his money for hookers, drugs, booze and weapons that’s on him and we can punish him for putting a danger on society. However are we going to punish an individual with $100 million who decided to donate $1 million every year at a local school in order to make sure kids have school supplies and resources to learn and treat both the same way?
AMIT Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Happylittlepunk said: How is it inhuman when it helped a lot people out of poverty for hundreds of years. Capitalism is a tool. If some guy with $100 million wants to use his money for hookers, drugs, booze and weapons that’s on him and we can punish him for putting a danger on society. However are we going to punish an individual with $100 million who decided to donate $1 million every year at a local school in order to make sure kids have school supplies and resources to learn and treat both the same way? No, we can't. Rich people can get away with pretty much anything and that has only gotten worse throughout history of humanity under capitalism. And what do you mean by ''punish'' that supposed charitable individual? The system that made them that wealthy in the first place is the same one that puts millions of people into poverty. Why do you think rich people get even richer during economic crises? https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/12/27/why-do-the-rich-get-richer-even-during-global Quote According to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, 131 billionaires more than doubled their net worth during the pandemic. The world’s richest person, Louis Vuitton chief Bernard Arnault, was worth $159bn on December 27, 2022, up by around $60bn compared with early 2020. Elon Musk, the planet’s second-wealthiest man, boasted a $139bn fortune — it was less than $50bn before the pandemic. And India’s Gautam Adani, third on the index, has seen his wealth increase more than tenfold in this period, from approximately $10bn at the start of 2020 to $110bn at the end of 2022. Do you know what's better than hoping every rich person society makes is a kind and charitable soul (which is at odds with how they can get there) and then being at their mercy for ''charity''? Not making people obscenely rich in the first place and distribute the wealth created better. And regarding your first sentence, the video below is a discussion of an article that analysis that famous poverty line graph that does a good job of illustrating the relation between capitalism and global poverty:
Specter Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 6:42 PM, Happylittlepunk said: Capitalism is just a tool imo it completely depends on the individual how they use it. Money all it does is exposed how people truly are behind the scenes. I have a lot of family members with money who truly showed their true colors once they had it and spend it all n gamboling and addictions and I also have a lot family members with money who used it for good. Like paying college or hospital bills or funeral bills within the family. I know it’s easy to say capitalism is the root of all evil. But I blaim individuals with their actions more than I do specifically a tool that can be used for good things also. Sorry sis but this is a "live, love, laugh"-esque explanation of capitalism that doesn't explain...anything The gambling and addiction you mentioned are all facilitated by capitalism so what did you think you were doing there
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