Communion Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretgarden Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Praying for all my sisters on TERF island rn Edited October 5, 2023 by secretgarden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guv'nah Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, spree said: not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? Why would you bring up reality and common sense on this forum? 5 2 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameerah Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 It’s a hospital, there’s no place for walking on eggshells to protect your feelings 1 3 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, spree said: not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? Yeo stepping in to to answer this, politely asked btw 36 minutes ago, The Guv'nah said: Why would you bring up reality and common sense on this forum? Tagging you in the answer too, but I'd like to encourage you to go f*ck yourself. Being trans would change dosages absolutely, but thats not the only factor, things like your weight, other medication your on etc would also change that. You would need to inform the doctors you are transgender to get the correct treatment. But it's not like theres one set dose for le man and one for le woman. Regardless this is about the wards you stay on, theres no reason trans women should be forced to go to a mens ward. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppie Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) What trash comments so far on this thread This has nothing to do with dosages and "walking on egg shells" ... it has everything to do with the government trying to start a culture war to win votes. Edited October 5, 2023 by Leppie 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leppie said: What trash comments so far on this thread This has nothing to do with dosages and "walking on egg shells" ... it has everything to do with the government trying to start a culture war to win votes. before the edit i thought the W was you celebrating - I thought I was losing my marbles, thank you for being normal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, ameerah said: It’s a hospital, there’s no place for walking on eggshells to protect your feelings You consistently stalk anything trans-related spreading your attempts at shade. Get a life or get help for whatever is making you so miserable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, spree said: not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? Not sure if this is true or not, I'm not educated enough to comment or not, however this story is about which WARD patients are treated in. Even if there are different medicines for men and women, female medicines and dosages are still available for patients in the male ward and vice versa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) The people in here pretending this is based on valid concern and isn’t anything other than punching down to the most marginalized and hated minority on that island to distract from poor policy and upcoming election losses in response to someone’s rather respectfully worded question Edited October 5, 2023 by IvyTower 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, IvyTower said: The people in here pretending this is based on valid concern and isn’t anything other than punching down to the most marginalized and hated minority on that island to distract from poor policy and upcoming election losses in response to someone’s rather respectfully worded question It's fine for them, when the words words words on the internet stops they don't care. It'll be me and my trans sisters who end up not going to hospital because we don't feel safe because they'll be trying to throw us on a mens ward. Really getting tired now. I never wanted to be trans, I just am a woman. I'm so tired of having to fight for the most basic things. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayseri Mantisi Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 The replies in here are so weird so far. They're all hate motivated. I literally get warned for joking about a “fanbase” but replies like this aren't getting directly banned or restricted from posting for a while? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Leppie said: What trash comments so far on this thread This has nothing to do with dosages and "walking on egg shells" ... it has everything to do with the government trying to start a culture war to win votes. oh i totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, ameerah said: It’s a hospital, there’s no place for walking on eggshells to protect your feelings not you're an olivia fan too, so disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, spree said: not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? 1 hour ago, The Guv'nah said: Why would you bring up reality and common sense on this forum? 35 minutes ago, ameerah said: It’s a hospital, there’s no place for walking on eggshells to protect your feelings Transphobia is rooted in idiocy and imagined strife because you have three responses where people display not understanding what a hospital ward is. Let alone that sex segregated wards are a unique British function that differs from the norm in the US and Canada (whose hospitals themselves rarely have wards anymore and opt for private roomsI. Let alone that overcrowding already allows for the hospitals within the NHS to create mixed-sex wards when needed based on patient occupancy. A cis woman is like 1000x more likely to end up in the same ward as a cis man due to over-crowding than end up next to a trans woman (who herself is just getting to get in better health) by virtue of how few trans people there are. Though I do appreciate @spree acknowledging that they had no clue from the beginning what a ward was and asked to be corrected. Sex segregation of hospital wards in the UK has nothing to do with medical treatment, and largely has been a discussion in the UK it seems over the last 2 decades over patient privacy and safety. The ward that someone is in is not dictating the treatment they get but more closely related to the bathroom discussions that have dominated in the past. If placing a trans woman in a female ward is allegedly disruptive and distressing to other female patients, what exactly is the imagined scenario and result of placing her in a male ward with men? Edited October 5, 2023 by Communion 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbra Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Isn't there a austerity crisis in the UK? The priorities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperial Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I’m not trying to get permabannd 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, spree said: not to sound ignorant, but when it comes to life saving medical emergencies and medicines, aren't men and women different when it comes to dosage and stuff like that? 1 hour ago, The Guv'nah said: Why would you bring up reality and common sense on this forum? If that had absolutely anything to do with this proposal, trans men would be banned from male wards too using that (very flawed) logic, but the proposal is once again only targeting trans women. The irony of you talking about common sense when something so obvious and simple went straight over your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Emperial said: I’m not trying to get permabannd Any reason you thought it would be appropriate to laugh react at a trans woman’s vulnerable post on here about feeling unsafe as a trans woman and about being tired of having to fight for their basic rights on a predominantly queer forum (after endorsing the transphobic rhetoric in here)? Edited October 5, 2023 by IvyTower 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, lacy said: It's fine for them, when the words words words on the internet stops they don't care. It'll be me and my trans sisters who end up not going to hospital because we don't feel safe because they'll be trying to throw us on a mens ward. Really getting tired now. I never wanted to be trans, I just am a woman. I'm so tired of having to fight for the most basic things. Your worries and anxieties are valid. You deserve to live in peace. Sending you so much love 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Legend X Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Thanks **** I got out of the UK at the verge of crumbling! geeezz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROJAN Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Emperial said: I’m not trying to get permabannd Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I don’t see the point of having separate wards for men and women. The way things are going it’s like we might as well completely segregate the sexes everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitch Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I doubt they'll be around long enough to enact half of these new policies they're suggesting. It's very easy to say you'll do things when you know you have basically one year left running the government. A culture war is the only hope they have of salvaging some votes. Shame it always seems to come to this instead of focusing on actual issues like the cost of living crisis, the mess of privatised water companies, housing and public transport schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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