ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted October 4, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 4, 2023 A reminder that Joe Biden said he would veto Medicare for All if ever passed by Congress. 4 1
spree Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 looks like the bible belt is the most effected yet they all vote republican and vote for tax breaks to the rich. 2 1
Jormungand Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, spree said: looks like the bible belt is the most effected yet they all vote republican and vote for tax breaks to the rich. Their deaths would've had more meaning if it weren't for the fact that they bring children into this world like rabbits and spread their poisonous idealogy. 1 1
Communion Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, spree said: looks like the bible belt is the most effected yet they all vote republican and vote for tax breaks to the rich. 2 minutes ago, Jormungand said: Their deaths would've had more meaning if it weren't for the fact that they bring children into this world like rabbits and spread their poisonous idealogy. Poor people largely don't participate in politics and there are often poor "blue" districts in red states. GA-02, AL-07 LA-02, TN-09, SC-06, etc. are all blue district with 20%+ poverty rates in red states, all sharing the characteristic that their counties are all majority black. Suggesting normal people are somehow at fault for their own suffering and not the corporations who rule America is distraction-making. 1 2 1
Jormungand Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Poor people largely don't participate in politics and there are often poor "blue" districts in red states. GA-02, AL-07 LA-02, TN-09, SC-06, etc. are all blue district with 20%+ poverty rates in red states, all sharing the characteristic that their counties are all majority black. Suggesting normal people are somehow at fault for their own suffering and not the corporations who rule America is distraction-making. I'm not arguing the fact that most Americans vote against their own interest on both sides of the aisle, but the reality is a disproportionate amount of conservatives consistently vote against their own interests and they're absolute hypocrites. They'd proudly vote against Universal Healthcare and in the same breath journey across the border to Mexico and take advantage of Mexico's Healthcare system.
nadiamendell Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Thanks Reagan and all of the awful presidents that came after.
Gottasadae Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, spree said: looks like the bible belt is the most effected yet they all vote republican and vote for tax breaks to the rich. Mte
DAP Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Marvin said: A reminder that Joe Biden said he would veto Medicare for All if ever passed by Congress. And is in fact continuing the Trump administration’s push to privatize Medicare. 1
Communion Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jormungand said: I'm not arguing the fact that most Americans vote against their own interest on both sides of the aisle, but the reality is a disproportionate amount of conservatives consistently vote against their own interests and they're absolute hypocrites. They'd proudly vote against Universal Healthcare and in the same breath journey across the border to Mexico and take advantage of Mexico's Healthcare system. Again, the poorest districts in the US, including the South, are often Democrat-voting. I get what you're trying to say, but the dismissal of those suffering incorrectly suggests the systems we live in our individualist (ie, the quality of one's life is a direct product of their decisions) and gives Democrats a pass for not working to improve these people's material conditions. Part of why most Republicans are-so is because the GOP have anti-poor policies and most are not poor. Republicans have the largest share of voters who make six-figures, etc. Of course they utilize hatred to get some working class folks to vote against their interests, but voting data shows this isn't noteworthy. Republicans in presidential elections have never earned a plurality of low-income voters at any point in the last 75 years. So to look at the data and think the takeway is "oh well! this is what they voted for!" is not only a bit tactless but incorrectly understands what's actually happening. That's why I pointed out to you that the poorest congressional districts in many Southern states are all Democratic ones and largely black. Of course Republicans are at fault for this suffering happening. It's just 1) not often 'their' voters suffering, purposefully, and 2) shows that centrist Democratic-proposed solutions are not working. "Let's just expand Medicaid while letting red states voluntarily opt-out!!" does not work. It's not mitigating suffering. This suffering is a direct consequence of centrist Dems and the GOP being united in not supporting Medicare For All. Edited October 4, 2023 by Communion 1
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