base talk Jesse Glynne: What went wrong?

[Angelo]

Last Era: (UK Charts)

I’ll Be There - #1

All I Am - #7

Thursday - #3

 

New Era:

Silly Me - Did not chart

 

What Do you Do? - Not charting at the moment

 

What’s up? I think she’s talented. 

 

[sunbathinganimal]

sexy fish

[MoonGoodandHappy]

sexy panda

[RideOrDie]

garbage person + bad music

[Duanielipa]

Every UK female pop artist has 1-3 successful eras then gets completely dropped for no reason and flops into oblivion. This has happened so many times before.

[Binxstan]

She failed to build up a fanbase and relied on the GP for her hits. 

 

A couple of bad PR disasters and they dropped her as they do with most females after a couple of eras = nobody to consume her music. 

[Peroxide]

4 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

garbage person + bad music

What did she do? The only thing I can recall that got people mad was her asking "What's Future Nostalgia?"

 

The Brits are very cruel to a lot of female recording artists, they'll have 2/3 massive eras and suddenly they'll be considered uncool... Cheryl, Rita, Leona Lewis, Duffy etc.

 

It's such a strange fate...

[RideOrDie]

1 minute ago, Peroxide said:

What did she do? The only thing I can recall that got people mad was her asking "What's Future Nostalgia?"

 

The Brits are very cruel to a lot of female recording artists, they'll have 2/3 massive eras and suddenly they'll be considered uncool... Cheryl, Rita, Leona Lewis, Duffy etc.

 

It's such a strange fate...

+ not knowing what future nostalgia is, which she can only dream of releasing in her career 

[lacy]

As a brit, it felt like she was just... on the radio... and no one really knew why, but everyone assumed that someone else somewhere else was enjoying it

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

8 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

What did she do? The only thing I can recall that got people mad was her asking "What's Future Nostalgia?"

 

The Brits are very cruel to a lot of female recording artists, they'll have 2/3 massive eras and suddenly they'll be considered uncool... Cheryl, Rita, Leona Lewis, Duffy etc.

 

It's such a strange fate...

Bad attitude, transphobia, unprofessional, annoying British GP with her bland music, broke Cheryl's record of being the British female artist with most number ones etc.

Edited September 29, 2023 by ithinkheknowsoutsold

[MingYouToo]

The UK market has this weird behavior where they will stream, support and give chart longevity for female artists if and only if theyre just as, if not, bigger, in other markets like the U.S.

 

Ariana Grande, Rihanna, Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, etc. have all lasted 5+ years with countless UK hits but it should also be noted that theyre also big in markets like Australia and the U.S.

 

i dont know if its explainable but its a clear trend/phenomena, Billie, Olivia, Doja are all still being supported after 3-4+ years of being in the mainstream and theyre big outside of the U.K.

 

I really dont know why they drop their local popstars like hotcakes

Edited September 29, 2023 by MingYouToo

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

5 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

The Brits are very cruel to a lot of female recording artists, they'll have 2/3 massive eras and suddenly they'll be considered uncool... Cheryl, Rita, Leona Lewis, Duffy etc.

About this, we as ATRL gays assume this happens to female artists only but it happens to men just as often. Britain has a very fast turnover in terms of both the singles chart and debut of new artists due to it geographically and culturally being the middle point between American music and European music, so artists don't really get a lot of time to stick around.

[Digitalism]

13 minutes ago, Duanielipa said:

Every UK female pop artist has 1-3 successful eras then gets completely dropped for no reason and flops into oblivion. This has happened so many times before.

The labels are really good there setting up artists and doing the promo and payola. But it seems that if they don't get the fan base for thenselves after that they drop them. It's up to the artist then to do it by themselvels

[RideOrDie]

3 minutes ago, lacy said:

As a brit, it felt like she was just... on the radio... and no one really knew why, but everyone assumed that someone else somewhere else was enjoying it

i assure you with her rich parents and mom in the music industry, it's PAYOLA & RIGGORY

[Peroxide]

6 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

+ not knowing what future nostalgia is, which she can only dream of releasing in her career 

Oh I was unaware of the diva antics...

 

I suppose that's a testament to how much I keep up with Miss Glynne.

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

2 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

i assure you with her rich parents and mom in the music industry, it's PAYOLA & RIGGORY

The only Jess Glynne songs I've heard in public lately are Rather Be (because of Clean Bandit's immaculate production) and Hold My Hand (because of Jet2), they don't even play her at the clubs anymore. Her days of tyranny are finally over!

 

Spoiler

I will say this though, the chorus of Silly Me plays in my head every now and then.

 

[Peroxide]

3 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said:

About this, we as ATRL gays assume this happens to female artists only but it happens to men just as often. Britain has a very fast turnover in terms of both the singles chart and debut of new artists due to it geographically and culturally being the middle point between American music and European music, so artists don't really get a lot of time to stick around.

Now that I think about it, that's a valid point... I can't think of that many examples but that's probably just down to the fact I rarely (if ever) listen to male artists.

 

But here's obviously an additional layer of cruelty when it comes to women - remember when Cheryl dropped Love Made Me Do It? All anyone could talk about was how different her face looked.

[Yawn]

girl.. not all the rants about her doing something ~wrong~ for the geepee to drop her, but then people listing a bunch of random things that no one knows about her  

 

sexy fish was her biggest cultural moment and that was more of a meme so might have maybe made her a bit of a joke that no one took seriously

 

she just took long breaks, had zero celebrity presence and never built up a fanbase or brand for herself. very much a product of her time, by featuring on UK-centric dance songs when that was trendy. simples. 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

It's really wild for someone who had 7 number one hits in UK chart, her new singles didn't even enter the chart AT ALL It's like people just... completely dropped her out of the existence

 

At least UK pop girls who suffered from commercial slump usually still able to chart their new singles at the bottom of top 30

[Fastlane]

I remember Pixie Lott case, she was huge in UK and then has just drooped.

 

[Popboi.]

The public is actively saying no to her, she’s still getting as much airplay and promo as when she had her string of #1s but can’t even dent the top 100.

[teenager]

honestly surprised she lasted as long as she did with the pop girl curse in the uk. she’s talented but her music is beyond generic and she relied on radio and the gp. don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say “I love Jess Glynne!”

 

she’s just a faceless pop girlie that made catchy music that was accessible to everyone and dass it

Edited September 29, 2023 by teenager

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

23 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

Now that I think about it, that's a valid point... I can't think of that many examples but that's probably just down to the fact I rarely (if ever) listen to male artists.

Sam Smith (non-binary now but you get the point), Callum Scott, James Arthur, Shayne Ward, Olly Murs, the One Direction boys minus Harry etc. and those are just the names at the top of my head. 

 

30 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

But here's obviously an additional layer of cruelty when it comes to women - remember when Cheryl dropped Love Made Me Do It? All anyone could talk about was how different her face looked.

I love Cheryl but that's pretty much the only thing that was noteworthy about the song. As someone who had built her career up on her beauty and looks, changing the most significant aspect of yourself to the GP was never going to help her cause.

 

It's a shame though, Let You was a bop and had it not been for Love Made Me Do It's failure I think the former could've seen major success.

[Alldeezy]

Dua lipa kinda came outta no where and they were both two alike 

[Joyride]

Anne-Marie lowkey escaping the curse